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On July 27 2012 06:49 michaelthe wrote:
We've had woefully low amounts of activity on day 1. I was hoping for more people to pick a target and go after them. Just as importantly, you need to comment on what other people are saying.
The idea is that we will be able to find scum tells in how they craft their cases and respond to others. So in that regard, day 2 I expect to see significantly more activity.
As for reads near the end of the night- nothing firm from me. I have a fair number of light reads and a few data points, but I'd like to combine this with day 2 discussion tomorrow.
so why don't you enlighten us to these light reads and few data points you have.. unless you know you will be surviving tonight
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I saw Maju flip red, and got all excited. Then I remembered that, in this game, red is green, and then I got sad. And confused.
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@michaelthe
I'm willing to see that my way of looking at your day 1 actions was wrong. But you can hardly call us out for bad town play and lack of an information lynch, when you yourself have done nothing at all to really contribute day 1. I would really like to hear your reads and not act like some third party observer. You are a part of this town too.
@Sinensis
Why why why would you not claim in that situation? You literally ignored your only ability this game. Also, you seem zealous to avenge your partner but don't expect every single mafia to be neatly tied up in a box among the group that voted for Maju.
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On July 27 2012 07:32 heist wrote:
@michaelthe
I'm willing to see that my way of looking at your day 1 actions was wrong. But you can hardly call us out for bad town play and lack of an information lynch, when you yourself have done nothing at all to really contribute day 1. I would really like to hear your reads and not act like some third party observer. You are a part of this town too.
@Sinensis
Why why why would you not claim in that situation? You literally ignored your only ability this game. Also, you seem zealous to avenge your partner but don't expect every single mafia to be neatly tied up in a box among the group that voted for Maju.
Mind explaining that part of your post to me?
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On July 27 2012 07:44 ghost_403 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 07:32 heist wrote:
@michaelthe
I'm willing to see that my way of looking at your day 1 actions was wrong. But you can hardly call us out for bad town play and lack of an information lynch, when you yourself have done nothing at all to really contribute day 1. I would really like to hear your reads and not act like some third party observer. You are a part of this town too.
@Sinensis
Why why why would you not claim in that situation? You literally ignored your only ability this game. Also, you seem zealous to avenge your partner but don't expect every single mafia to be neatly tied up in a box among the group that voted for Maju. Mind explaining that part of your post to me?
Maju's flip had a part in it where he was told of one member of the Ginyu squad. Right before he died, he said "Don't kill Sinensis, he's town"
I would gather that he put 2 and 2 together and gave sin confirmed town based on his role PM.
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This is MajuGarzett's last post. He knows he's going to die. His only ability is knowing another townie.
On July 26 2012 08:43 MajuGarzett wrote:
Don't lynch Sinensis, he's town. I have to go now and I'll probably die so gg everyone.
And Michael, do you have no other defence than "town is shitty"? You should be lynched for your attitude even if you aren't scum.
Thus, Sinensis is his partner and I'm assuming reciprocal roles.
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Yeah, missed that the first time.
Dunno how, there's so little to read in thread 
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Friendly reminder: remember to send your actions to both me and iGrok!
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So having a look at Fulla's past games as town, I don't see parallels. He has been pretty silent here, and him leaving his vote on Kenpachi while ignoring the other stuff going down in the thread doesn't seem at all like what he does as town. I'm talking about NMMXXI, for reference. Fulla, who is scum?
BioSC I am unsure on right now. His filter is small and has some pretty garbagy stuff in it, but his opposition to the plan gave me a townie vibe. Bio, who do you think is scum?
I am with mattchew in wanting to hear ANYTHING you have to offer themichael, so get to sharing please.
Kenpachi, I'll be expecting some reads soon as well.
Is anyone else leaning scum on Fulla?
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EDWOP: Hmmm. Just before I start assuming something incorrect again... Sinensis, did you know who Maju was? Or are your powers completely different? You don't have to say what they are.
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ghost, do you still think Bio is scum?
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S0lstice, I'll look through Fulla's other games before coming to a judgment, but based solely on his activity and behavior here, he's not looking too townie.
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On July 27 2012 07:55 heist wrote:
S0lstice, I'll look through Fulla's other games before coming to a judgment, but based solely on his activity and behavior here, he's not looking too townie.
please be a little more hesitant in your assertions
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On July 27 2012 07:55 s0Lstice wrote:
ghost, do you still think Bio is scum?
I was gonna say
He's maintained his previous course. His actions just don't look all that townie to me.
Then I looked at his filter and was all like.
I'm thinking he's scum.
I mean, take a close look at why he voted Maju in the first place.
On July 26 2012 00:28 BioSC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 26 2012 00:18 ghost_403 wrote:
@bio: So what are your thoughts now? You still against the vote switching plan, or you want to just treat this like a normal game? Who do you think we should be lynching today? I'm against the vote switching plan. Based on the activity level so far in this game, it would be really hard to have everyone on board anyways. Grush, Maju, Kenpachi, and Fulla have yet to post any large amount, with only Maju posting since the game started. I'm also not liking Michaelthe's nonchalance with day1 lynches. It's fine to not like the random plans that we come up with, but to seriously think rolling a dice and voting at random helps at all is crazy. His only contribution to the game so far is the vote on Sinensis. For lynch targets, I would be ok with either him or Maju. There are a few people coasting by this game with bare minimum posts, him being one of them. Grush, Kenpachi, and Fulla all haven't posted anything, and I would rather not waste a lynch on someone who's in line to be replaced/modkilled. That being said, should they come back and not contribute, I would be more than happy to start charging my PL.
Look carefully at his vote. He's not voting Maju because he think he's scum. He's voting for him (presumably) because he's "coasting by this game with bare minimum posts". And, to top it all off, he didn't even say that directly about Maju! That quote is directed primarily towards MT, with Maju being pick number two.
After Hiro jumps into the thread suspecting Maju, Bio treats his vote like it's the most logical thing in the world. There's some kind of gap in logic between those two things, and Bio hasn't noticed that, or he doesn't care.
I believe this is because he's not trying to find scum.
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Top 3 reads for me right now: Fulla, michaelthe, and Kenpachi.
Fulla: There is a whole lot of nothing in these posts, considering there is only 2 for the whole game. Keeps his vote on Kenpachi since coming in the game, then offers a pretty useless post pressuring Kenpachi to say something. Doesn't look at the votes, doesn't add anything to the conversation about Maju, nothing. I feel like this was a throwaway vote because town simply wasn't pressuring the right people, and it was a safe enough vote for him. He's the one I would most like to vote tomorrow.
michaelthe: Attitude in thread sucks. I'm not inclined to believe that anyone wanting to be helpful posts like this:
+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2012 08:32 michaelthe wrote:
I guess it boils down to this:
1- I'm the stupidest player ever for attacking someone, saying Im going to random, then actually picking that person IN THE SAME POST ON THE FIRST PAGE ON THE FIRST DAY. If I were scum picking a random town, I can't explain how bad this play would be. But I guess I wouldn't expect you to understand (see 2)
2- I'm correct in how bad you are all as town. You continue to prove my point, and should I die, it's at least a small victory in that I can point at how absolutely bad town is in day 1.
Never has anyone attacked you as a person, stop trying to take the hurt/martyr road. Your random vote plan sucked, and when people told you it did, you offered nothing to help us actually find scum.
Kenpachi: Obviously late to the party, for whatever reason. That's fine, i'm not holding that against you. What I don't like, are posts such as these.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 26 2012 10:00 Kenpachi wrote:
this is a mini mafia.. tbh, my experiences with these are minimal cause i generally play a lot of medium sized games (and was hoping a normal sized game for Champloo >_>)
Can we get a vote count? From the looks of it, Town looks completely disorganized and i feel its too hard for us to look into the votes to find the scum
For now, i have nothing useful to say meh.. i just want to let you guys know i tried
+ Show Spoiler +On July 27 2012 01:51 Kenpachi wrote:
i still have no reads
We have 3 days of posts, its not a lot, but you have to have SOMETHING. I don't like someone coasting by not offering any kind of help to town. You obviously aren't getting replaced/modkilled, you need to be more helpful. Of course, if you are defending earth, please go ahead and stay that way.
Those are my reads right now. Should I not make it through the night, I would go after fulla/michael.
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On July 26 2012 23:34 HiroPro wrote:
Matt, judging by Maju's last post Sinensis is his teammate -_-
Fulla was in MTG right? Is he always this inactive/useless?
Sorry guilty of both :/ I've actually have been away past 24 hours.
I read the suggestion and why don't we seriously all role claim? It's a good chance of catching 1 person out, with 2 ppl claiming same role.
It obviously relies on a bit of luck with scum being the first few to claim. As they naturally would pretend to away to avoid this I suggest the following:
We vote on the scumiest players as a group,
the top 3 role claim 1st
then the rest
This should atleast stack the odds in our favour a little?
I'd be happy to go first.
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Well, I'm voting Bio as soon as the Day post hits.
You're honestly trying to convince me is composed of two people who were gone Day 1, and another person who kind of useless?
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@Ghost: Can you point out exactly where I thought that Maju WASN'T the person I said was coasting by? Because I'm pretty sure that it was the exact reason I voted him. Not sure where you got the idea that I was saying that about mike.
Once Hiro voted Maju, I felt that my reasoning for voting him was sound and went through with the vote. Was it a wrong vote? Yeah, add that to the stack of bad day 1 reads. But, for my reasonings, I stand by my vote.
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On July 27 2012 08:29 ghost_403 wrote:
Well, I'm voting Bio as soon as the Day post hits.
You're honestly trying to convince me is composed of two people who were gone Day 1, and another person who kind of useless?
Gone for HALF of Day 1.
Are YOU honestly trying to convince me that we should ignore people who are offering NOTHING to the thread, nothing to the game? On what? Because someone asked me for my reads and I gave them? Because I didn't like a plan based around last minute vote switches? Perhaps I should take another look through your filter.
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