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Watch there be another nuke post in a few minutes...
##Vote Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 09:40 Chezinu wrote:That makes no sense... think about.. think about...
I suppose there could be a mafia medic.
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If town has no vigis... then that would make kurumi more likely town...
maybe there are vigis that just didn't kill or got blocked.
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Did anyone get roleblocked?
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I wonder if wherenugsgo got shot by the gun that shoots killer words...nah... Then who shot him? hmm...
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On July 19 2012 09:44 HiroPro wrote:
Did anyone get roleblocked?
Not that I know of, I know some Blazing guy said he was gonna block me. Maybe I did, Maybe I didn't
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Oh I see now why there's possibly no town night kp
Town wins when all the Mafia are dead
Mafia wins when all the town are dead
This might take forever
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On July 19 2012 09:31 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 09:11 layabout wrote:Do the accusations agaisnt zealos go beyond him not reading properly, contradicting himself and deciding to do something that will hurt town? I would like to add that as a town replacement he didn't read very thoroughly in Bang Bang 2, he shot after expressing that he wouldn't earlier on and he committed to shooting early when doing so only hurt town's interests. + Show Spoiler [Bitter? who is bitter?] +On June 20 2012 06:40 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 04:51 Zealos wrote:
Dirkzor - Town
Zealos - Town
layabout - Unsure
Kenpachi - ???
RebirthOfLegend - Town
MrZentor - Leaning Town
Toadesstern - Town
I want to see Ken shoot layabout or MrZentor. Thoughts? Why did you just post a list that shows the varying degrees to which you think players are town at night? Why do you provide no explanations whatsoever? Why have you not formed a coherent stance on me? Why are you willing to let Mr. zentor die when you have 4 town reads you are leaning town on Mr Zentor and you are unsure about 2 players? Need i point out that there are only two anti-town players left? I think that zealos should shoot kenpachi. Also no shooting early on! People (should) have stuff to post.+ Show Spoiler +*glares at everyone with contempt* On June 20 2012 07:11 Zealos wrote:
I'm not shooting unless someone plans to shoot me, otherwise I waste the information I can gain from seeing who can shoot.
I would prefer Ken to shoot you laya, obviously, but if the rest of the town is strongly for a zentor kill, then that can work too. With only 3 people who I am unsure about, the shot WILL hit either the sk or mafia. On June 21 2012 02:13 layabout wrote:
It is very important that if i am alive i have the opportunity to post tomorrow.
Please don't fuck up another game. On June 21 2012 03:13 layabout wrote:Suck my dick. I have to wait until day to post it because posting it at night would be harmful to town.There is no reason for town to shoot before i get back to the thread and have a chance to post. Tomorrow may be lylo and an early shot is a less informed shot. The only two people that have expressed a desire for me to die are zealos and kenpachi. The reasons zealos has given are defensible from his standpoint (except that he doesn't explain any of his town reads and yet still offers them publicly) and kenpachi has told us that i am scummy. On June 21 2012 03:23 MrZentor wrote:
Yeah, Zealos, there's no reason for layabout to post it now, and you're a lot scummier than he is. On June 21 2012 19:43 Zealos wrote:
If mafia shot ken then he's stupid.
##kill(##kill): layabout
If dirk isn't town then shit. On June 21 2012 19:56 Ace wrote:Day 6
layabout, Vanilla Towny has been shot+ Show Spoiler [Role] +
You are a Vanilla Towny. You've had enough. No more sitting around voting on who's guilty. You've got a gun, and people will learn to listen to you or get bent. Any time during the day you may type ##kill(##Kill): player in the thread and shoot them. The day will end once you shoot. Once you have shot, you have to wait X number of days to shoot again where X is based on the total number of times you've shot during the game. So if you've shot at 2 people during the game, you have to wait 2 days before shooting again.
You win when all anti-town players are eliminated. Good luck!
You don't think the fact that he initially says he has no intention of lynching BH, then based on the same exact evidence later tells me that BH is the person he would kill (and based on a complete bs reason: BH buddying to "influential townie" Kurumi) is scummy?
That is not what happened.
On July 17 2012 19:55 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 19:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On July 17 2012 12:35 Blazinghand wrote:On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread. Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with. *I*, on the other hand, am 100% confirmed town (to myself). I think every time I have used this logic of "I know I am 100% town" I have been scum. I actually don't ever recall seeing anyone use this as town.##Vote: BlazingHand I've used that logic on myself several times as town. I also feel like we might have overtunneled BH for a few fairly weak reasons and given the mafia players an easy free lynch.
Zealos contradicts RoL reason for his vote. He thinks that "we" might have overtunneled BH with relatively weak reasons. He does not say that he has not intention to lynch BH merely that he has doubts.
Now i think there were more reasons for lynching BH in the intervening time but i am too tired to find them.
On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 05:00 HiroPro wrote:
Zealos, who would you like to kill other than austin? Don't say Kurumi.
And can you explain your vote for austin? What did you find scummy? Unfortunately my vote for austin was a rush vote where I voted for who seemed to have a decent case against them. I simply didn't have time to look over the whole thread, which is regrettable. As for today, I think a good kill would be BH. I gather it's pretty much a wagon at this point, but just to add to things: Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player. The post I made early about him also pointed his odd vote switch after the deadline, which doesn't seem town at all to me. Not to mention the massive cuffle with all the nuking and blocking (which I still don't understand at all, are nukes standard in some games?) So he's my pick so far.
He says that in addition to what has been said already that BH's behaviuor was odd, both in his "post deadline voteswitch" and his "nuke blocking cuffle". When Zealos says he would kill BH it is after a number of new reason to kill him have come to light it is not for the same reasons that he earlier referenced but never explicitly mentioned.
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For today killing kurumi is fine. Starting tomorrow we begin a chase for the executives:
Win Conditions:
Town wins when all the Mafia are dead
Mafia wins when all the town are dead.
As long as the higher ups are still alive this game is horribly imbalanced in favor of mafia. But IF we can kill them off soon all communication will be lost and this will be a long drawn out game where mafia and town both have to eliminate each other completely to win. So that should be our goal for the following days.
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Wtf syllo why are you so good.
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On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =)
So?
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Well played bugs.
Can we assume a single Kp for scum then.
On July 02 2012 16:07 Protactinium wrote:
Extra Information:
The mafia kill process goes like this:
Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline.
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On July 19 2012 09:57 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =) So?
That was a trap too, that failed. I didn't msg anyone.
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On July 19 2012 09:58 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 09:57 Kurumi wrote:On July 19 2012 03:11 sandroba wrote:
And BTW scum I already messaged one of you. If the person I messaged doesn't reveal he got messaged until the end of this night I'm gonna know he/she is scum for sure. GL figuring it out, I put great effort into it =) So? That was a trap too, that failed. I didn't msg anyone.
Really? Why don't message your reads to your strongest town read? So when something bad happens they got your back?
Ehh.. Well. Okay.
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On July 19 2012 09:42 Chezinu wrote:
If town has no vigis... then that would make kurumi more likely town...
Can you explain this Chez? If town couldn't kill him, scum certainly wouldn't.
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On July 19 2012 09:53 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 09:31 HiroPro wrote:On July 19 2012 09:11 layabout wrote:Do the accusations agaisnt zealos go beyond him not reading properly, contradicting himself and deciding to do something that will hurt town? I would like to add that as a town replacement he didn't read very thoroughly in Bang Bang 2, he shot after expressing that he wouldn't earlier on and he committed to shooting early when doing so only hurt town's interests. + Show Spoiler [Bitter? who is bitter?] +On June 20 2012 06:40 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2012 04:51 Zealos wrote:
Dirkzor - Town
Zealos - Town
layabout - Unsure
Kenpachi - ???
RebirthOfLegend - Town
MrZentor - Leaning Town
Toadesstern - Town
I want to see Ken shoot layabout or MrZentor. Thoughts? Why did you just post a list that shows the varying degrees to which you think players are town at night? Why do you provide no explanations whatsoever? Why have you not formed a coherent stance on me? Why are you willing to let Mr. zentor die when you have 4 town reads you are leaning town on Mr Zentor and you are unsure about 2 players? Need i point out that there are only two anti-town players left? I think that zealos should shoot kenpachi. Also no shooting early on! People (should) have stuff to post.+ Show Spoiler +*glares at everyone with contempt* On June 20 2012 07:11 Zealos wrote:
I'm not shooting unless someone plans to shoot me, otherwise I waste the information I can gain from seeing who can shoot.
I would prefer Ken to shoot you laya, obviously, but if the rest of the town is strongly for a zentor kill, then that can work too. With only 3 people who I am unsure about, the shot WILL hit either the sk or mafia. On June 21 2012 02:13 layabout wrote:
It is very important that if i am alive i have the opportunity to post tomorrow.
Please don't fuck up another game. On June 21 2012 03:13 layabout wrote:Suck my dick. I have to wait until day to post it because posting it at night would be harmful to town.There is no reason for town to shoot before i get back to the thread and have a chance to post. Tomorrow may be lylo and an early shot is a less informed shot. The only two people that have expressed a desire for me to die are zealos and kenpachi. The reasons zealos has given are defensible from his standpoint (except that he doesn't explain any of his town reads and yet still offers them publicly) and kenpachi has told us that i am scummy. On June 21 2012 03:23 MrZentor wrote:
Yeah, Zealos, there's no reason for layabout to post it now, and you're a lot scummier than he is. On June 21 2012 19:43 Zealos wrote:
If mafia shot ken then he's stupid.
##kill(##kill): layabout
If dirk isn't town then shit. On June 21 2012 19:56 Ace wrote:Day 6
layabout, Vanilla Towny has been shot+ Show Spoiler [Role] +
You are a Vanilla Towny. You've had enough. No more sitting around voting on who's guilty. You've got a gun, and people will learn to listen to you or get bent. Any time during the day you may type ##kill(##Kill): player in the thread and shoot them. The day will end once you shoot. Once you have shot, you have to wait X number of days to shoot again where X is based on the total number of times you've shot during the game. So if you've shot at 2 people during the game, you have to wait 2 days before shooting again.
You win when all anti-town players are eliminated. Good luck!
You don't think the fact that he initially says he has no intention of lynching BH, then based on the same exact evidence later tells me that BH is the person he would kill (and based on a complete bs reason: BH buddying to "influential townie" Kurumi) is scummy? That is not what happened. Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 19:55 Zealos wrote:On July 17 2012 19:08 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On July 17 2012 12:35 Blazinghand wrote:On July 17 2012 12:25 wherebugsgo wrote:
Well, if he were town, he would have used his block power to block Kurumi from nuking RoL, since Kurumi's nuke was mod-confirmed BEFORE Chezinu used ##nuke in the thread. Kurumi being scum doesn't mean RoL is town. Even if Kurumi is one of the managers, he still has very little idea who he's actually shooting, and RoL isn't exactly captain mctownerson to begin with. *I*, on the other hand, am 100% confirmed town (to myself). I think every time I have used this logic of "I know I am 100% town" I have been scum. I actually don't ever recall seeing anyone use this as town.##Vote: BlazingHand I've used that logic on myself several times as town. I also feel like we might have overtunneled BH for a few fairly weak reasons and given the mafia players an easy free lynch. Zealos contradicts RoL reason for his vote. He thinks that "we" might have overtunneled BH with relatively weak reasons. He does not say that he has not intention to lynch BH merely that he has doubts. Now i think there were more reasons for lynching BH in the intervening time but i am too tired to find them. Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 05:16 Zealos wrote:On July 19 2012 05:00 HiroPro wrote:
Zealos, who would you like to kill other than austin? Don't say Kurumi.
And can you explain your vote for austin? What did you find scummy? Unfortunately my vote for austin was a rush vote where I voted for who seemed to have a decent case against them. I simply didn't have time to look over the whole thread, which is regrettable. As for today, I think a good kill would be BH. I gather it's pretty much a wagon at this point, but just to add to things: On July 17 2012 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:On July 17 2012 07:42 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 07:41 Blazinghand wrote:On July 17 2012 07:40 Kurumi wrote:On July 17 2012 07:38 Blazinghand wrote:
You know kurumi we got like tons of time maybe if you're really a town player you can help convince these people to lynch syllo after you die Meapak_Zipph is scum, I don't care about syllo. And why I would work for you, who the hell are you? Are you sure? Cause Syllo looks pretty scummy to me. You should read the cases on him and make a case against him, a glorious shining case that will be reinforced by your town flip. You are making this so easy. I am town. You "know" I am town. Why vote on me? ._. My point is that "if you are really a town player" you should be spending your resources to help me lynch syllo. You're not doing much to convince me right now. That is super odd to me. Clearly his logic makes no sense, and he's trying to buddy up to who he thinks will be an influential town player. The post I made early about him also pointed his odd vote switch after the deadline, which doesn't seem town at all to me. Not to mention the massive cuffle with all the nuking and blocking (which I still don't understand at all, are nukes standard in some games?) So he's my pick so far. He says that in addition to what has been said already that BH's behaviuor was odd, both in his "post deadline voteswitch" and his "nuke blocking cuffle". When Zealos says he would kill BH it is after a number of new reason to kill him have come to light it is not for the same reasons that he earlier referenced but never explicitly mentioned.
He says again later that he does not want to lynch BH and this is well into day 1. The nuke blocking stuff has already been completely covered by WBG at this point.
On July 18 2012 07:40 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 06:38 risk.nuke wrote:On July 18 2012 06:21 marvellosity wrote:
for tonight, 6h 40 mins Okey good thanks, I just finnished reading up on the thread and I'd say I did better then skimming but not really a thorough readthrough either. Right now I'm feeling of a mind to join in on the austin wagon. It seems nice there. Unfortunatly I'm going to have to go with this. Having only recently replaced in and having been out all day today, I'm just gonna vote for the person that seems the most scummy recently. I don't like the idea of a BH lynch right now. I don't think there is enough against him, and if he does flip town we've lost a good vet. ##Vote: austinmcc
So the only point that came up new was BH's post deadline vote-switch. I find it very hard to believe that alone is enough to shift from a lynch he doesn't like to the person he would most like to kill (other than Kurumi. Additionally, look at his behavior when I started talking to him. As soon I become a little suspicious he completely leaves the thread and says that he'll just vote for BH when the day starts and leave people to do what they like.
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Also, you still did not explain why a town Zealos would ever try to argue that BH was trying to buddy "influential townie" Kurumi.
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On July 19 2012 09:54 sandroba wrote:
As long as the higher ups are still alive this game is horribly imbalanced in favor of mafia. But IF we can kill them off soon all communication will be lost and this will be a long drawn out game where mafia and town both have to eliminate each other completely to win. So that should be our goal for the following days.
Given that, wouldn't it be better to leave Kurumi alive today and try and kill the senior management. As long as he is willing to vote with us he is not a threat. It is highly unlikely he has more than one power, or nuke. If there is no announcement in the next 24 hrs we know he doesn't have a second nuke. No-one is going to listen to him either so he is essentially vanilla.
To me it makes sense to kill our biggest threat first. I know we have to kill Kurumi eventually but right now that gives mafia a free day of not being in the spotlight.
Am I crazy?
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