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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 20 2012 21:58 GMT
#2322
I'd do sender, but this pointless.... I don't get why you guys are so interested now but refused to talk about 1 for 1 stuff when i brought it up in the beginning.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 20 2012 22:16 GMT
#2329
On July 21 2012 07:00 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 06:58 HiroPro wrote:
I'd do sender, but this pointless.... I don't get why you guys are so interested now but refused to talk about 1 for 1 stuff when i brought it up in the beginning.

Buy yourself a cake. So now I know that we're ok if something funky happens. Thanks HiroPro.


Don't worry. I still have some radpie If only you were town


I won't be there at deadline, but I doubt that matters today.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 21 2012 03:41 GMT
#2438
Kurumi............Ill read your posts later when I have time.


I'd rather lynch Zealos or BH than people who I have less strong reads on just because "the hosts are more likely to pick them as executives".
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 21 2012 03:52 GMT
#2440
lol very nice.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 02:46 GMT
#2599
OMG lol. This is too hilarious. I guess you guys are right about your executive theory.

Palmar should die. There is no way he actually believed that BH was town. And he has not been doing anything this game - syllo is right.

We can kill Zealos later.

The fact that GGQ hasn't been modkilled yet pretty much confirms that he's mafia for me.

##Vote Palmar
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 02:54 GMT
#2601
BTW guys, notice the awesome role that Zealos claimed (along with the whole nonsense he had with his reads and the sandroba PM that he failed to bring to the thread)? It should be almost certain that he is mafia at this point.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 03:32 GMT
#2604
On July 22 2012 12:05 rastaban wrote:
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On July 22 2012 11:54 HiroPro wrote:
BTW guys, notice the awesome role that Zealos claimed (along with the whole nonsense he had with his reads and the sandroba PM that he failed to bring to the thread)? It should be almost certain that he is mafia at this point.

Who was it, VE I think, who even said Vt would be enough. Over compensation.

Lynch Zealos


I like the way you think

But it does look like the hosts actually tried to pick certain people to be executives. So we should kill Palmar. My read isn't as strong on him, but I'm fairly certain he's mafia.


I'm not a huge fan of using connections as broadly as you have, Probulous. Foolishness only knew 2 mafia (one of whom I think is Palmar). Additionally, Foolishness would have realized during night 1 just how much danger he was in. It's entirely possible that certain reads he made were just to throw off town when he died.


Compare the difference between his behaviour around Palmar and around Syllo, BM. The vehemence of his defense versus the pussy cat attack suggests he doesn't really want to lynch Palmar.


This is something I really agree with though.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 04:31 GMT
#2609
Well actually rereading im still not sure about BM lol . Will have to wait and see about him.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 12:21 GMT
#2642
So why is it that kurumi was not shot night 1? Dreamflower is some kind of multi shot vig right?

Any breadcrumbs - ss/sloosh? And what does the delayed mean sloosh are you claiming you shot foolishness night 1?

Marv, 1 for 1 is not a bad trade for scum depending on who they get.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 12:37 GMT
#2649
Ok i dont buy this claim by sloosh. The last thing he ever says about foolishness is that hes leaning even more town on him due to him catching scum. He never comments about anything going on betweeen VE and foolishness. Throw in the delayed thing which i dont get at all. Sloosh makes it seem like he shot last night but then where is this delayed bit?

Ill read a bit more closely when im on my computer but i think sloosh is lying.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 12:39 GMT
#2651
On July 22 2012 21:36 supersoft wrote:
So he's a vig that can shoot from night 2 on? mhm sure. This role fits perfectly into the setup. Who else has an ability you can only use from night2 onwards?


Oh the delayed could mean that. But i still dont buy the claim.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 12:42 GMT
#2654
Bill, do you see any ability that they have - not just in-thread/day abilities?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 20:27 GMT
#2695
Chezinu, why do you think BH killed Foolishness?
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 22 2012 20:29 GMT
#2696
Like that doesn't make any sense to me. BH didn't know what Foolishness was, but he did know that the lynch would probably be between the both of them and maybe Zealos. Killing Foolishness pretty much would ensure that both of them die, either by BH being lynched or losing his life for killing a town...
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 23 2012 13:13 GMT
#2825
What sloosh/BM situation are you talking about. BM has q-bert's vote.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 01:34 GMT
#2991
lol, Palmar - always scum, never not scum. At least from I've seen
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 01:34 GMT
#2994
lol Foolishness. No CEO dawg, we lynch Zealos.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 01:37 GMT
#2996
On July 24 2012 10:34 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 10:31 Probulous wrote:
On July 24 2012 10:27 marvellosity wrote:
On July 24 2012 10:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I can't think of any reason for a townie to feel 'demotivated' by anything after a half-cycle in which three scum die in quick succession.

But you know...that's just me. Maybe it's because I like the game so much.


That's not demotivating. You being unnecessarily sarcastic is.

Last time I checked, "what are your reasons for calling someone scum, when the only one presented is setup gaming based on extremely incomplete information" was not an unreasonable question.


Marv, don't get drawn in. VE is being tricksy. We are in a good position (3 scum baby!) so we need to consolidate it. Given Palmar's flip can you take a look at MZ's filter fo me?


Quick pre-question then; given Palmar flipped non-executive, do you find it more likely that below CEO roles were randomised? Else there would be 2 players still left 'above' Palmar


Eh idk. I didn't think it was likely for them to be specifically picked, but Foolishness's PM was personalized for him...

And thing you have to remember is we had 2 replacements.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 02:02 GMT
#3007
On July 24 2012 10:59 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, as people are around and hopefully can answer me instead of shouting at me to read... I see plenty of people don't like slOosh's claim. If the claim is fake, what was its agenda in making it?


was there anything on this?


Yea, that's what I'm reading through right now.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 24 2012 02:17 GMT
#3014
On July 24 2012 11:11 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 10:59 marvellosity wrote:
On July 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, as people are around and hopefully can answer me instead of shouting at me to read... I see plenty of people don't like slOosh's claim. If the claim is fake, what was its agenda in making it?


was there anything on this?


My running theory is to distance himself as much as possible from his original Foolishness defense. Night 1 had no vigs so mafia assume there are no vigs, or they are delayed. Then when Foolishness flips they know someone will claim that shot, so they claim first. Remember this is a closed setup so we don't know if there are multiple vigs, his claims adds nothing to the discussion because we cannot verify it. All it does it give him a shot at town cred. Unfortunately for him, it was supersoft not someone like Zealos, who counter claimed.

The claim itself is my sticking point as well and anyway I look at it, I come up with a null. It doesn't say anything really. What does the rest of his filter say?


Yea, this is kinda what I was thinking initally too. But thinking about it now, no one knew that Foolishness was the CEO. So defending him isn't really much of a connection - I don't think that alone would be enough for slOosh to decide to fakeclaim. And I don't remember Foolishness ever talking really about slOosh (other than that mass useless list), so not much connection there either to damn slOosh. Don't see why as mafia he would really feel extreme pressure. I say, wait and see on slOosh. Lynch Zealos tomorrow.
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