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On July 19 2012 10:19 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 10:08 HiroPro wrote:
Also, you still did not explain why a town Zealos would ever try to argue that BH was trying to buddy "influential townie" Kurumi. I have a very low opinion of town Zealos and that i something i think he could do if e hadn't been reading the thread. What you said he did was not accurate and this play from Zealos reminds me very much of how he acted at the end of Bang Bang mafia 2. Zealos said that he would vote for Blazinghand and not come back for the rest of the day. If he is town and he cares then he will come back and try to be productive there is nothing to stop him doing this as mafia but if he doesn't do it he is probably mafia and we should lynch him.
Let me read Bang Bang. I will come back after I have read his filter from that game.
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On July 19 2012 10:24 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 10:23 HiroPro wrote:On July 19 2012 10:19 layabout wrote:On July 19 2012 10:08 HiroPro wrote:
Also, you still did not explain why a town Zealos would ever try to argue that BH was trying to buddy "influential townie" Kurumi. I have a very low opinion of town Zealos and that i something i think he could do if e hadn't been reading the thread. What you said he did was not accurate and this play from Zealos reminds me very much of how he acted at the end of Bang Bang mafia 2. Zealos said that he would vote for Blazinghand and not come back for the rest of the day. If he is town and he cares then he will come back and try to be productive there is nothing to stop him doing this as mafia but if he doesn't do it he is probably mafia and we should lynch him. Let me read Bang Bang. I will come back after I have read his filter from that game. While you're rereading bang bang, have a look at rastaban as well.
Explain your rastaban case to me please. I did not find your inital thing very strong.
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On July 19 2012 10:19 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 10:08 HiroPro wrote:
Also, you still did not explain why a town Zealos would ever try to argue that BH was trying to buddy "influential townie" Kurumi. I have a very low opinion of town Zealos and that i something i think he could do if e hadn't been reading the thread. What you said he did was not accurate and this play from Zealos reminds me very much of how he acted at the end of Bang Bang mafia 2. Zealos said that he would vote for Blazinghand and not come back for the rest of the day. If he is town and he cares then he will come back and try to be productive there is nothing to stop him doing this as mafia but if he doesn't do it he is probably mafia and we should lynch him.
Ok, I read his filter. I was too lazy to read the thread going on at the same time. I think your opinion of his town play is a little low - while he's certainly not what I would call very helpful and the shot seemed bad (I can't judge that well), he seems to have more involvement in the thread - and he did identify Zentor as scum correctly...
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Hm, no reads post from Foolishness that I missed - I'm up for killing him too.
Sandroba, do you think zealos is scum?
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On July 19 2012 13:27 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 12:41 Probulous wrote:
Foolishness, do you think BM is an executive? Who cares? Any attempt to try to distinguish whether a suspect is an executive or not is retarded.
I kind of agree with this. Right now the only criteria that I really see people using seems to be the ability/experience levels of the people brought up as scum suspects...
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Yo Meapak, I think you're right.
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Palmar, you don't think gonzaw's behavior can be explained by him simply having not enough time? What he's done this game is pretty different from what I would expect as his scum play - you were in Liar Game. He was a fairly dominant person in that game also even as scum.
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On July 20 2012 00:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 00:23 HiroPro wrote:
Palmar, you don't think gonzaw's behavior can be explained by him simply having not enough time? What he's done this game is pretty different from what I would expect as his scum play - you were in Liar Game. He was a fairly dominant person in that game also even as scum. I was in liar game too. He only became dominant near the end of the game. He was pretty much a non-factor early on. Did you compare the filters linked?
I obsed that game. I know his play there is very different from this game, but I don't think that's because he's scum. I think it's simply that he's not as involved in the game and can't play his usual spammy aggressive style.
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On July 20 2012 00:29 Palmar wrote:
people don't change hiro.
I'm always an aggressive asshole. If I don't have time, I'm still an aggressive asshole, I just post less. Why are you so intent on defending him anyway?
I don't think he's scum.
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On July 20 2012 00:35 Palmar wrote:
yeah but why?
All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content.
Because he still has the same obsession that he has as town (aggressiveness not scum (unless it's against him in which case it is scum)), still has the same general use of meta with nothing specific to support most of his reads. While I don't really agree with the supersoft case, I think it was thought through well - he makes valid points about supersoft being less tunnely on reads and being very fluffy in his posts.
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On July 20 2012 00:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 00:42 HiroPro wrote:On July 20 2012 00:35 Palmar wrote:
yeah but why?
All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content.
Because he still has the same obsession that he has as town (aggressiveness not scum (unless it's against him in which case it is scum)), still has the same general use of meta with nothing specific to support most of his reads. While I don't really agree with the supersoft case, I think it was thought through well - he makes valid points about supersoft being less tunnely on reads and being very fluffy in his posts. so why do you not agree with it?
It's the way he behaved about the BH case. It didn't look like he was trying to spread guilt around or sheep whatever was the popular opinion - it legitimately looked like he was trying to figure out BH's alignment.
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On July 20 2012 03:43 syllogism wrote:
I've to say I'm a bit worried about something. To be specific, Palmar's filter right now is about 3 pages and there's not much time left until day 3. Foolishness' failsafe "is Palmar mafia" proof relies on his filter being either less than 3 pages or more than 6 pages, so we may be stuck in a "not-quite-sure-if-mafia" limbo.
Why the change in opinion?
On July 17 2012 18:35 syllogism wrote:
Also Foolishness reasons for considering palmar town are incredibly amusing, you can't seriously believe that. Average post length is concrete?
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On July 20 2012 03:50 marvellosity wrote:
don't think it was entirely serious...
I knew that. 
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MZ, you think Zealos is scum?
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lol I already know that BH
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On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.
I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times.
 Zealos confirmed scum
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On July 20 2012 07:46 Blazinghand wrote:I'm kinda amazed scum is still falling for this "get PMed by Sandro and fuck up" thing. Like, any townie who gets a PM will obviously tell the thread... why doesn't scum? Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 07:44 Chezinu wrote:On July 20 2012 07:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
No upward or lateral communication Chez- are you claiming the other messenger PR? I don't even know what the PR stands for.. It stands for Public Relations.
There are 3 minions. They dont know when they'll get messages or who it's from.
I like the idea of killing Zealos before Kurumi.
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Well Kurumi decided to claim his message last night xd
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On July 20 2012 07:51 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 07:48 HiroPro wrote:
I like the idea of killing Zealos before Kurumi. As do I. JUST TO REITERATE: I'm TOTALLY down to kill EITHER of these guys today. Both are fine to lynch. The other will be lynched tomorrow. Killing Zealos, however, cuts short one night of possible mafia PR usage, whereas Kurumi has already used his 1-shot nuke power. I will be around CONSTANTLY and am totally willing to go back to Kurumi to insure a lynch today. ##unvote
##vote: ZealosLet's do it.
lynch is tomorrow isn't it?
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oh reloading nukes is a possibility I guess. or the nuke command may have to be sent in by PM to be valid.
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