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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#2169
On July 20 2012 23:56 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 22:52 rastaban wrote:
Hmm I guess Sandroba could have bussed 2 minions to make it seem he has his role. Well that is easy to check, We just have town decide who he messages next. He only has 1 minion left at this point if scum exec, so only 1 in 20 something of actually picking that person. If that person gets the message then we confirm him town, if not then we can lynch him. he gets 1 a 1/2 cycle and no one else is likely to fall for it at this point so no waste if he gices up one of them to confirm himself.

Does anyone think this makes sense.


No it doesn't.

Do you think this increases the chances of rastaban being mafia?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2012 15:39 GMT
#2172
lol
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2012 15:57 GMT
#2175
your persistence is amazing kurumi.

Did I mention katina is scum? How about you look into her?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2012 19:23 GMT
#2240
i guess we lynch zealos then too.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 20 2012 23:20 GMT
#2360
rofl VE, I'll just leave you and sandroba to this.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 15:41 GMT
#2458
rofl
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 15:45 GMT
#2459
I failed at occam's razor btw.


On July 20 2012 20:30 Palmar wrote:
@Bill Murray, your stance on the Kurumi/Sandroba thing is insane.

Knowing scum has to eliminate every single town, and town has to eliminate every single scum, you can make the argument that kurumi was extremely smart and understood that at some point in the game it might be beneficial if scum thinks you're scum, might even save an otherwise lost game.

However, that's stretching it alot, and assuming Kurumi knew about this rule before someone posted it, (I didn't) and was capable of recognizing the possible strength of such a position. Obviously sandroba being town fucked completely with whatever plan he might've had if he was town.

However, the simple solution is kurumi fell for a trap and is scum.

Which is why we hang him. The simple solution is usually right.



You see, I forgot the option where kurumi is a dumbass and just does whatever the fuck he wants.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 15:47 GMT
#2460
if you can shoot tonight kill foolishness, syllo, katina, BM, zealos etc

I'll be around later
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 17:05 GMT
#2464
On July 22 2012 00:54 supersoft wrote:
palmar, respond on the issue i raised about your activitylvl.
We are going to reach a point of time in the game where i need some informations.


I never ever explain why or why I don't post in games. I think it's cheating as scum to say "I was doing x or afk" and by extension I can't do it as town either.

I play exactly as much as I can and want to. I've been hanged for refusing to explain my inactivity, both as town and as scum (see L as an example of me being killed as town when I was simply afk, and a recent igrok's old fashioned mafia game where the same thing happened but I was scum.)

Despite people attempting to read me based on activity, see for example foolishness's inane statement on my activity to my alignment. It's plain wrong.

So no, I'm not going to respond if I wrote that post "fuck I need to write something" or if it just happened to be a window where I had 2-3 hours to play the game.

It's your job to figure that out.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 17:20 GMT
#2466
I haven't caught up since last night. Did Chez ever claim messenger role?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 18:19 GMT
#2476
On July 22 2012 02:26 Katina wrote:
Why do you think I should be shot? You have yet to give any reasons to why you think I'm Mafia. You have done close to nothing this game besides popping in every now and then, and giving a brief hit and run then off again. You know who is known for hit and runs? Mafia, have you not seen the old Mafia movies??. Your uselessness this game has astounded me.

The same goes for Mattchew as well. Lack of contribution or care for find Mafia, close to no reads with almost no explanation or reasoning.


No, you're just not reading the thread.

On July 20 2012 00:20 Palmar wrote:
I'm also reconsidering my stance on Katina being scum. I assumed she must be town because of how confrontational she was with me and foolishness. But for some reason she seemed to think Bugs was scum at one point (other most likely wrong reads in that list include supersoft and of course sandroba wtf.)

I have a hard time believing even she could be this wrong.

Also, I'm not included in that list. At the time I was active in the thread and there wasn't much interest in attacking me. I wonder if she forgot about me, or left me out due to popular opinion:

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 09:26 Katina wrote:
bugs, you should really know better than to try to switch the vote train off of two people who were discussed at in length. You have caused a shitstorm now, and the votes aren't any better than they were 24 hours ago. The people voting for austin at this point:

supersoft
wherebugsgo
Bill Murray
sandroba
syllogism
risk.nuke
gonzaw

Looks like a pretty good mafia list. I wouldn't mind 4 or 5 of you dying.


Looks like she remembered me later though, and funny enough, she remembered me at a time where I was not active in the thread at all, however, due to syllo's accusations, a few people had entertained the idea of me being scum.

perfect opportunity to slide me back into her suspicion list.

Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 12:20 Katina wrote:
On July 19 2012 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I have had my vote stolen for the entire cycle.

Also I really don't like the idea of not killing kurumi today. The last thing we need to do is give up an easy scum kill.


It doesn't matter if your vote was stolen, just vote.

Why would we give up an easy kill? It will narrow down the scum count, that's what we need to win as town. If Kurumi doesn't die people are just going to derp around and be unfocused because he IS still alive. With him dead that's one less distraction and we can focus on the other scum such as:

Mattchew
Foolishness
Palmar
Blazinghand
Syllogism
Bill Murrary


At least she fixed sandroba out this time. Popular opinion important right?

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 19:07 GMT
#2483
On July 22 2012 03:32 supersoft wrote:
ah very well. Palmar do youi have any powers?


Even if I thought revealing my role was beneficial, why would I do it during the night?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 19:08 GMT
#2484
also I love how everyone, even myself, keeps forgetting about GGQ
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 19:23 GMT
#2487
My opinion is to lynch whoever has the most chance of flipping scum.

@supersoft, are you threatening to shoot me?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 19:37 GMT
#2499
sandroba is town, don't be an idiot. Kurumi being a retard does in no way change the fact that he had a pure town mindset behind his plan.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 21 2012 21:15 GMT
#2536
I don't think Chezinu is sending the chezinu like messages and I don't think chezinu is scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 23 2012 10:32 GMT
#2806
yeah whatever.

I'm the Eager Intern, which means that I'm now bugs's role. I can obviously pardon someone to prove it, but that would be kinda counterproductive. I can pick up the role of a dead guy, and permanently become that role.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 23 2012 10:35 GMT
#2807
i'm voting zealos.

because of this:


On July 20 2012 07:34 sandroba wrote:
Man this is fun.

I messaged Zealos yesterday before the day post. He never revealed he got pm. I just got confirmation that the pm was sent and Zealos has posted twice since then. So yeah fun times.


and this

On July 21 2012 03:36 sandroba wrote:
My PM to zealos actually started like this: No rest for the wicked. Don't trust any message that doesn't start with this phrase.
Which he omitted when he claimed the message. I thought it was a pretty obvious mafia message.


Which basically means he's guaranteed to be scum.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 23 2012 11:00 GMT
#2809
I haven't read up on him yet.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
July 23 2012 14:32 GMT
#2832
On July 23 2012 21:38 risk.nuke wrote:
Q: Palmar can you pardon yourself?


I have no idea and no will to find out. If I would pardon myself I'd only be giving the mafia one extra cycle of night kills, as you guys would lynch me anyway.

When I flip, go kill syllo.
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