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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 13 2012 14:53 GMT
#146
/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 08:59 GMT
#229
Let's random lynch.

As an alternative, sinani is trolling and taking part in dumb discussion so I'd be fine with killing him.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#232
On July 16 2012 18:03 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2012 17:59 Palmar wrote:
Let's random lynch.

As an alternative, sinani is trolling and taking part in dumb discussion so I'd be fine with killing him.

Sinani? Who is that? Which discussion?


Q-bert-Z is sinani.

He's roleplaying.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 09:18 GMT
#234
On July 16 2012 18:11 syllogism wrote:
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On July 16 2012 18:04 Palmar wrote:
On July 16 2012 18:03 syllogism wrote:
On July 16 2012 17:59 Palmar wrote:
Let's random lynch.

As an alternative, sinani is trolling and taking part in dumb discussion so I'd be fine with killing him.

Sinani? Who is that? Which discussion?


Q-bert-Z is sinani.

He's roleplaying.

Really? That's the last person I would expect him to be, how do you figure? Anyway, you don't usually mind role playing (or trolling? which is it?) so do you just have a problem with sinani in particular doing that?


Q-bert-Z logged on IRC a few days ago, I'm assuming it's the same person. I just compared the hostname to what I could find in my logs. Sadly he has an IP address from a verizon pool so it's not conclusive, but the other option seems to be Risen, which I find much less likely given the way QBZ has been posting so far.

His posting very much matches how I'd expect sinani to behave under a new identity, I wouldn't have guessed it before, but once I read his post with the added knowledge that it might be sinani it really does fit. The jokes/roleplay are of questionable quality, certainly below any of my theatrics, it's mainly just playing off Chez's eternal trolling.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 09:57 GMT
#237
Is that something I should know? I haven't actually read the entire op.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 11:16 GMT
#243
If it wasn't clear earlier.

I am proposing a Random Lynch for day 1. We have an unusually high chance of hitting mafia this game.

This is a randomized list of all the players in the game, it changes order every minute. Someone who isn't me can pick a time, if you want 100% security you can do it when I'm sleeping, then people screenshot the list at that time and we lynch the first guy on the list.



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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 11:16 GMT
#244
edit: forgot the link: http://www.palmar.org/mafia/random.txt
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:09 GMT
#250
On July 16 2012 20:50 marvellosity wrote:
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On July 16 2012 20:16 Palmar wrote:
If it wasn't clear earlier.

I am proposing a Random Lynch for day 1. We have an unusually high chance of hitting mafia this game.

This is a randomized list of all the players in the game, it changes order every minute. Someone who isn't me can pick a time, if you want 100% security you can do it when I'm sleeping, then people screenshot the list at that time and we lynch the first guy on the list.



What's the supposed benefit? Mafia manipulation of the lynch (by dint of their large numbers) would be at an absolute minimum due to the fact they don't know who each other are.

And, more importantly, I've only been lynched once before and I don't plan the 2nd time to be a random lynch D:


The chances of each individual being lynched are very low. The chance of lynching mafia is 33%, which is probably not much worse than lynching mafia based on analysis, especially given that mafia doesn't know who their teammates are so it's impossible to try to analyse any links or interactions.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:19 GMT
#253
Any analysis by definition has always a better chance of hitting mafia than random lynch, as even if the analysis is terrible, you still have the base chance of lucking out on hitting scum. This is of course assuming the analyst isn't terrible, but I'm not.

There are other reasons why I want to RL.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:21 GMT
#255
I don't want to talk to you anymore marvellosity
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 12:29 GMT
#258
I should've signed up with two accounts, that way I'd at least have someone intelligent to talk to.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 13:12 GMT
#263
note to self: sandroba confirmed scum.

It's ok, we can deal with that later.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 15:00 GMT
#282
I hate you guys.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 17:17 GMT
#352
I agree with BlazingHand let's kill syllogism. Nice catch supersoft.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 17:25 GMT
#363
On July 17 2012 02:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Palmar since you're here you and I are going to play a lighting round.

Marvellosity
Blazinghand
Rastaban
Supersoft

Scum or town, go.


No.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 17:27 GMT
#366
Supersoft nailed it. MVP. I'm going to stop playing and start working on a bronze statue of him to erect in my bathroom.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 17:28 GMT
#368
On July 17 2012 02:27 syllogism wrote:
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On July 17 2012 02:17 Palmar wrote:
I agree with BlazingHand let's kill syllogism. Nice catch supersoft.

Do you honestly agree? Be very honest. Also, what is the nice catch you are referring to?


Why do you not announce that you support my RL idea?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 16 2012 19:41 GMT
#426
On July 17 2012 04:09 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm going out, be back in a few hours.

If Palmar shows his face hold his feet in the fire until he answers my post.


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Also thanks god VE is here. Take care of this bro, I'm going out.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 17 2012 13:26 GMT
#765
You guys write too much. And I don't think BH is scum, or at least, I did not think that back at page 23 or so when I left the thread.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 17 2012 13:44 GMT
#767
Someone asked me if I think marvellosity is scum, and my answer is no.

I guess it ties into why I thought RL was an excellent idea in this game. The difference between this game and any other game is that there is no inter-mafia communication. They cannot decide, or bounce ideas on how to react to the suggestion, so all it would've taken to really turn up the heat was for a few townies to roll with me on the idea.

The main characteristic of a mafia player in this game is not going to be pushing an agenda or scheming, but much rather complete focus on surviving on their own. This is exactly what the random lynch plays out on, the fear of getting killed as a player.

I initially had some concerns about marvel, but I never felt anything conclusive. And I just read through the part of the thread where he's attempting to use role pm formatting to confirm players. Even if we assume mafia got fake pms, it's still probably something he's more likely to do as town. So with nothing else on him, I don't think he's scum atm.

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