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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 03:14 GMT
#1114
I don't really have any reason to think he's town, but the case on BH is stronger.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 03:19 GMT
#1120
I don't expect RoL to show up with the way he's played so far. But marv and sandro will also vote for BH.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 03:41 GMT
#1132
[B]On July 18 2012 12:32 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 01:38 HiroPro wrote:
I agree with sandroba: BH's posting looks very artificial. His reasoning for ignoring Probulous doesn't make sense: Probulous's question is not invalid just because BH switched targets. And his logic for thinking that sandroba/syllo are scum is laughable.
##Vote Blazinghand

So he ignored me and then made up a bad reason for it? I've dropped it, so did Sandroba. If you are sheeping Sandroba why do you feel BH is a better lynch even though Sandroba does not?

Why respond if he thinks he can just get away with ignoring it. Sandroba didnt unvote because he stopped believing bh was scum; he did so because he didnt think there was enough support for a lynch. And unlike you I actually think wbg 's argument is valid.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 15:51 Chezinu wrote:
WBG FTW!!!

Your sanity eases my mind. I've been trying to kill blazinghand since the very begining of this game. First I attempt to send a minion to kill him, but that ended up failing. Then I shoot a nuke at him, but then he blocks it. This time though, I think I can lynch him. The TimeWarper's words are ringing true. I would love to give QBZ thanks for that, . Being SILLY is Fun!

##Unvote
##Vote BlazingHand

...
Nevermind, you do your thing
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On July 17 2012 05:18 rastaban wrote:
I like the case on BH better than the on Mz right. I feel GGQ is right in his assessment that mafia will use the lack of ties to make them more bold in their case rather than second guessing. Look at my play as Serial Killer, I decided to try and play as pro town as possible, I ended up going overboard and tunneling risk.nuke in my effort. I feel like MZ's caution is the sign of town who wants to get things right rather than scum who wants to get the day over with. Think about it we still have more than 24 hours of discussion to go.
As others have also pointed out, he is also trying too hard to find reasons for his votes, it makes them seem fake.
##vote blazinghand

BH is being bold, that is literally the reason you are voting for him? We no longer have more than 24 hrs so why is this a better case than Gonzaw?
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On July 17 2012 23:03 slOosh wrote:
On July 17 2012 22:44 Palmar wrote:
The main characteristic of a mafia player in this game is not going to be pushing an agenda or scheming, but much rather complete focus on surviving on their own. This is exactly what the random lynch plays out on, the fear of getting killed as a player.

I've been thinking about the setup and I think Palmar nails it here. Basically everyone beside 3 CEOs are uninformed majority, and even they only know a fraction of their whole team. Thus all scum will be scared of pushing / lynching / hitting each other ala shooting GGQ in sleeper II, and so more than anything they will be focusing on survival.

BH fits this mold. WBG explains here.

##Vote: BlazingHand

I have already pointed out that everyone is going to be focused on survival. I don't understand Palmar's point and he never clarified it. No-one has told me why a townie would not be focused on surviving. It is much harder to prove your alignment this game so surviving if you are town is probably a decent strategy as opposed to, I don't know, dying?
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On July 18 2012 06:44 Katina wrote:
There is no way there will be a Foolishness or a Sandroba lynch today. Syllogism, or Blazinghand is most likely at this point maybe Austin (depends on everyone else)...Right now both Syllogism and Blazinghand is near the top of my suspicion list and these two are the main candidates for lynch today. Blazinghand hasn't been around in for a bit while Syllogism has been here trying to defend himself and push his suspicions of Foolishness (Who is also scummy to me) I would like to give Syllo another day and see what happens. So I will be voting for Blazhinghand today. I'm sure enough about austin yet to consider him a lynch candidate today I will wait and see what happens later on.

##Unvote Kurumi
##Vote Blazinghand

Depending on his flip and who dies during the night hopefully we will have a more organized D2.

Which is the biggest load of hogwash ever. He is suspicious, because? Oh I get it, he is suspicious because he is suspicious...

If you guys are going to push this wagon then please give me a reason to vote for BH cause right now the only one who has tried this is bugs and I fundamentally disagree with his logic on BH's response to the nuke.

HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 03:42 GMT
#1133
I cant fix the tags on my phone easily. My response is in the quote.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 03:53 GMT
#1143
On July 18 2012 12:45 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
Why respond if he thinks he can just get away with ignoring it. Sandroba didnt unvote because he stopped believing bh was scum; he did so because he didnt think there was enough support for a lynch. And unlike you I actually think wbg 's argument is valid.


Sandro's filter says otherwise.

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 06:35 sandroba wrote:
So yeah, let's lynch austin. Leaves us more time to think about BH/Laya, which I'm not entirely positive on being scum yet.



Pretty sure he says after that the gonzaw lynch is just to consolidate because a consensus cant be reached on bh/austin.

HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 03:59 GMT
#1150
Also Probulous, its a pain for me to check but did BH ever address your initial concern even after dropping his suspicion/dumb read on you? No right
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 04:00 GMT
#1153
What are we at? We should still be able to get marv/sandro.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 04:02 GMT
#1157
We have another hour.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 04:15 GMT
#1169
Foolishness's absence makes me a little suspicious. I dont think he ever gave a clear answer on whether or not he thought austin/bh were scum and they were the leading candidates when he was here (and Im pretty sure he said he was looking to move his vote)... And its not like he tried again to sway to his own target.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 04:41 GMT
#1181
Am i the only one uncomfortable with switching to a candidate who had a stolen vote on him.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 04:48 GMT
#1191
if we have two nonvoters will the number to lynch become 13
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 04:52 GMT
#1205
Someone shoot bm
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 05:01 GMT
#1238
Yea idk what the hell hes doing when hes not even dying.....
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 05:05 GMT
#1250
Well at least kurumi will die
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 05:24 GMT
#1281
Wtf rol, why would you make us think that kurumi was going to die when you knew it wouldnt happen
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 05:29 GMT
#1289
Im so pissed right now.... I'll see you guys in the morning
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 13:37 GMT
#1335
On July 18 2012 13:15 HiroPro wrote:
Foolishness's absence makes me a little suspicious. I dont think he ever gave a clear answer on whether or not he thought austin/bh were scum and they were the leading candidates when he was here (and Im pretty sure he said he was looking to move his vote)... And its not like he tried again to sway to his own target.


I changed my mind. I'm not just a little suspicious of Foolishness. I want him dead.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 13:49 GMT
#1338

It is now Night 1. The night phase is shortened to get us on a more euro-friendly deadline schedule. Actions are due at 7PM CST (17 hours from now).


Read the thread guys...
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 19:25 GMT
#1408
On July 19 2012 02:13 Katina wrote:
Mattchew: I will be post a case on you later. I'm pretty sure that you are Mafia. I still think Palmar is Mafia as well.


I'd like to see this.


supersoft, let's forget about kurumi. unless he somehow flips town, there is no point in thinking about what he says.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 18 2012 20:00 GMT
#1430
Zealos, who would you like to kill other than austin? Don't say Kurumi.

And can you explain your vote for austin? What did you find scummy?
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