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I'm going to sleep about now-ish. I don't want to lynch BH, and I kinda don't want to lynch austin either. | ||
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I need to catch up about 10 pages, but whatever. Also I can't believe that you almost lynched Blazinghand, that's dumb as shit. | ||
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I guess I'm also reconsidering layabout. It'd be very low play from him to write that frustration post to get stuff off him as mafia, and I genuinely don't think he's an asshole. On July 18 2012 10:35 layabout wrote: Not game relevant: I think i am going to take a break from TL mafia. I had looked forward to this game for some time but now it's happening i can't bring myself to care. At some point during the last game something inside just snapped. There were a number of reasons for it and i was going to make a thread but then real life kicked in and i haven't had the time. Yesterday was my first day back to myself and i spent most of it away from my computer and most of my computer time on Blacklight: Retibution. In spite of this i hate nothing more than asshats that don't play or people that are exempt from trying/playing because "It's player soandso" so i will try. After i die i will bugger off. I began writing a long post but i am tired and it reads like dogpoo. Following sandro since the last time... well it worked out pretty well for town. ##vote gonzaw I am not sure how he can think that both foolishness and syllogism are scum. He seems to be looking at the thread from a very different viewpoint. gonzaw is still 100% scum. So is meapak, and I'm pretty sure by now foolishness is one too. | ||
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Also, do we really not have a vigilante? I still need to catch up since yesterday. I would've expected kurumi to be dead by now. | ||
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I like the idea of rastaban being scum. His latest post completely misunderstanding layabout's intentions with his frustration post only reinforces that idea. I don't think there's much to discuss about foolishness. It's so ridiculously clear he's scum. BlazingHand is almost definitely town. I have no idea how and why he almost got lynched on day one. I haven't found the time to take a thorough look at the wagon that formed on him to weed out the dumb from the scum. And most of the scum is in pretty plain sight anyway. Syllogism is scum this game. I usually find him pretty easy to read and he's completely delivering this game. The only thing that's somewhat questionable is if his raging about the setup and such is genuine. Problem for him is, he has to make dumb calls as scum, which is why he's doing stuff like this: On July 19 2012 07:08 syllogism wrote: Assuming? Sounds off for town palmar. The rest of this post too. You have been pretty distant for someone who should consider sandroba 100% confirmed town by now and me close to that (to you). This is funny because I already clarified (in a conversation with him) my thoughts on sandroba, see here: On July 17 2012 23:26 Palmar wrote: Well prove you're not. I admit, there is not much to do other than lynch kurumi at the moment, and I also know that if I'm right you've been pushed into a very uncomfortable position due to sandroba's status atm. Any judgements you make will be reviewed by sandroba who is almost guaranteed to be town. Sandro's basically confirmed town. I know that, and syllo knows that. For those who still don't get it, the meaning of the sentence I wrote, and syllo attacked was "Given that sandroba must be town ...." not "If sandroba happens to be town .... " But syllo probably knows this anyway, which is why he finds it reasonable to attack me in this way: On July 19 2012 08:21 syllogism wrote: Pretty sure palmar is mafia as well. Some of his posts are very reasonable and I even agree with the a lot of content, but his tone and attitude is off. He is also putting in as little effort as possible and basically ignoring me and sandroba despite even at one point calling sandroba confirmed town. Yes this is a very lazy "case" and he probably won't be a lynch candidate tomorrow. I'm ignoring you for the most part syllo. I don't think I'm ignoring sandroba. Although I did miss most of yesterday in the thread. Gonzaw is scum too. If anyone doubts it, I had the unpleasant experience of playing against him when he was town in a recent mafia game. I was mafia that game. His style was completely different in that game, focused and really scary. I'm not seeing any of the aggressiveness that was really annoying to deal with. Either I'm completely blinded by not being mafia, or he's posting in a different way this game. He's for the most part been a non-factor this game. Here's his town filter, for easy comparison: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=341558&user=237527 Compare that to this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=237527 The language is different, the content is different. He's scum. Let's carry on BM is scum, just murder him. VE/Sandroba/Marvel/layabout/prob/Blazinghand etc are town, for various reasons. I need to run will write more. Not like we have much more to say for today. | ||
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I have a hard time believing even she could be this wrong. Also, I'm not included in that list. At the time I was active in the thread and there wasn't much interest in attacking me. I wonder if she forgot about me, or left me out due to popular opinion: On July 18 2012 09:26 Katina wrote: bugs, you should really know better than to try to switch the vote train off of two people who were discussed at in length. You have caused a shitstorm now, and the votes aren't any better than they were 24 hours ago. The people voting for austin at this point: supersoft wherebugsgo Bill Murray sandroba syllogism risk.nuke gonzaw Looks like a pretty good mafia list. I wouldn't mind 4 or 5 of you dying. Looks like she remembered me later though, and funny enough, she remembered me at a time where I was not active in the thread at all, however, due to syllo's accusations, a few people had entertained the idea of me being scum. perfect opportunity to slide me back into her suspicion list. On July 19 2012 12:20 Katina wrote: It doesn't matter if your vote was stolen, just vote. Why would we give up an easy kill? It will narrow down the scum count, that's what we need to win as town. If Kurumi doesn't die people are just going to derp around and be unfocused because he IS still alive. With him dead that's one less distraction and we can focus on the other scum such as: Mattchew Foolishness Palmar Blazinghand Syllogism Bill Murrary At least she fixed sandroba out this time. Popular opinion important right? | ||
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On July 20 2012 00:23 HiroPro wrote: Palmar, you don't think gonzaw's behavior can be explained by him simply having not enough time? What he's done this game is pretty different from what I would expect as his scum play - you were in Liar Game. He was a fairly dominant person in that game also even as scum. I was in liar game too. He only became dominant near the end of the game. He was pretty much a non-factor early on. Did you compare the filters linked? | ||
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On July 20 2012 00:24 syllogism wrote: Haha Palmar nice try, lets ask what sandroba thinks about that post of yours I was referring. He thinks you are mafia as well, but you are of course ignoring him because discrediting him isn't actually possible okay, let's see what he thinks. | ||
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I'm always an aggressive asshole. If I don't have time, I'm still an aggressive asshole, I just post less. Why are you so intent on defending him anyway? | ||
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All you've focused on so far is the amount of his posts, not the content. | ||
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On July 20 2012 00:30 syllogism wrote: Palmar while you are here, explain, in your own words. Why you think BM is mafia compare this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=54241 to this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=329128&user=54241 and this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305850&user=54241 Sure, you can in theory make the argument he got excited with his powerrole in BC's game and that's why he was so much more engaged than in the two games he's scum (including this one). But I don't think I have to spoonfeed you the difference in emphasis and posting style... right? | ||
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I'm out for now. | ||
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On July 20 2012 20:05 Kurumi wrote: By the way I'd rather you see me as town in your plans of people being linked, so you know where to go from there when I flip >_> Sandroba isn't scum... But presence of two messengers (I think?) makes me uneasy. Sandroba, I am going to ask you that question again. How did you know that Sandroba? The CEO/Chairman/President can't have abilities, even I read that much of the OP | ||
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Knowing scum has to eliminate every single town, and town has to eliminate every single scum, you can make the argument that kurumi was extremely smart and understood that at some point in the game it might be beneficial if scum thinks you're scum, might even save an otherwise lost game. However, that's stretching it alot, and assuming Kurumi knew about this rule before someone posted it, (I didn't) and was capable of recognizing the possible strength of such a position. Obviously sandroba being town fucked completely with whatever plan he might've had if he was town. However, the simple solution is kurumi fell for a trap and is scum. Which is why we hang him. The simple solution is usually right. | ||
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