Bureaucracy Mafia! - Page 2

On July 17 2012 11:17 Mattchew wrote:
WBG can you explain to me your read on Katina?

On July 17 2012 13:29 rastaban wrote:
Sylo also looks like a good target, and while his actions are Scummy I recommend the Ace method, when two people both look like scum start by lynching the player you have more content on. We can give Sylo till tomorrow to improve if need be, and lynch this scum BH he has so much content and it all points one way

On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.

I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.

To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.

I will get back to you on Foolishness.

On July 17 2012 13:51 rastaban wrote:

His stance and comments on Probulous are a red flag for me, combine that with Foolishnes and WBG's arguments and I think he starts looking like a great secondary candidate. It isn't conclusive, thats why I would like to move him to spot #2 and hopefully pull some proponents from his lynch onto BH who is scummier and give Sylo a day to see if he will shape up.

On July 17 2012 13:56 Katina wrote:


I really like how you convinently appear whenever I do. You haven't post reads on others nearly to the extent that you have on me. I would hardly call what you have been doing as generating dicussion. I think people have even forgotten that you were in the game. No one every says anything to you or about you.

On July 18 2012 03:17 supersoft wrote:


is this poor attempt to look useful by austin a scumtell or is he just useless all the time?

On July 18 2012 03:32 HiroPro wrote:


I disagree Matt. I just read through his filter in LVI as town. He actually talks about his reads and who he wants to lynch when he's town.

In this game, the only thing related to actual play (and not setup) he ever said was that matt's case on Katina and Katina's case on Palmar looked wrong. I've asked him twice now for thoughts both on BH/MZ and on who his scum reads might be and he hasn't bothered to say anything. He's parked his vote on sandroba for no other reason than that he wants to know what his role is.

Looks like scum to me.

On July 18 2012 04:17 gonzaw wrote:

@Mattchew: What do you think of Katina now? Do you still think she's scum?
How do you respond to me pointing out Palmar posted the RL thing as scum? Does it change your read on Katina or Palmar?
I would have thought you'd not instantly jump on someone based on that RL thing without checking it out at first.
I don't really see you caring about the game right now either. You think Katina is scum yet you are just asking irrelevant questions and posting one-liners.
Fuck, Mattchew you act like this every game and I don't know if you do it on purpose at times.

On July 18 2012 04:40 HiroPro wrote:


Her play isn't really like that here. All she did in MTG was tunnel you and Nova_Terra with pointless reasoning.

On July 18 2012 04:37 marvellosity wrote:


I'm not seeing it right now Matt. I don't see Katina's play in this game as very much equivalent to that game at all. I think you're getting a bit of confirmation bias from the first post that you criticised.

On July 18 2012 07:35 Palmar wrote:
It makes very little sense for austinmcc to take such a controversial stance as scum. I've never played with the guy before, but when something looks good and is agreed on by town, it's generally not scum who stand up and put their necks on the line to call town out on it.

I don't agree with him, but in a game where I was expecting mafia to be awfully self-aware, his play seems straight up counterproductive. It's a very weird/dumb/ballsy thing to do as mafia.

And no, BlazingHand is town. stop voting him.

Can we kill MZ instead pls?

On July 18 2012 10:35 Probulous wrote:
@SloOsh, you still around?

Same to Katina, Mattchew and Chez?

On July 18 2012 12:32 rastaban wrote:

I see u are on MZ. Gonzaw and mh are our leading candidates and it looks like I agree to give gonzaw a bit more time. Will u switch to MH?

On July 18 2012 12:48 rastaban wrote:
I thought the nuke was real as well despite knowing chez's trolling so I agree that isn't a good reason to vote him. If I was him though I would have blocked Ks nuke when I learned he was scum but he didn't. I find that to be the more suspicious part.