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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 04:26 GMT
#701
On July 17 2012 11:17 Mattchew wrote:
WBG can you explain to me your read on Katina?

There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 04:33 GMT
#703
On July 17 2012 13:29 rastaban wrote:
Sylo also looks like a good target, and while his actions are Scummy I recommend the Ace method, when two people both look like scum start by lynching the player you have more content on. We can give Sylo till tomorrow to improve if need be, and lynch this scum BH he has so much content and it all points one way

How are his actions scummy?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 04:44 GMT
#705
On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.

I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.

To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.

I will get back to you on Foolishness.

Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable!

I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 04:57 GMT
#708
On July 17 2012 13:51 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 13:33 Mattchew wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:29 rastaban wrote:
Sylo also looks like a good target, and while his actions are Scummy I recommend the Ace method, when two people both look like scum start by lynching the player you have more content on. We can give Sylo till tomorrow to improve if need be, and lynch this scum BH he has so much content and it all points one way

How are his actions scummy?

His stance and comments on Probulous are a red flag for me, combine that with Foolishnes and WBG's arguments and I think he starts looking like a great secondary candidate. It isn't conclusive, thats why I would like to move him to spot #2 and hopefully pull some proponents from his lynch onto BH who is scummier and give Sylo a day to see if he will shape up.

What exactly about his stance and comments on Probulous. Can you quote something and explain why its scummy to you
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 05:07 GMT
#709
On July 17 2012 13:56 Katina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 13:44 Mattchew wrote:
On July 17 2012 13:39 Katina wrote:
Gah, I guess his filter really doesn't have anything. Even when I compared it to past games my intuition still strongly tells me he's Mafia. My intuition hasn't let me down yet. I assure you that as soon as I can demostrate he is Mafia accurately I will.

I did go back and take another look at Mattchew's filter though. He's only going after me because I'm an easy target (Liar game is proof of that. In that game three different Mafia members went after me) It's evident that his case against me was incredibly forced and makes little sense this is seen because nobody agrees with it. People like WBG know my play very well so if his case had any value it would be sure that these people (WBG, VE, etc) would be commenting on it. He hasn't done anything this game besides tunnel me and attempt to nuke BM. That's a very questionable move in itself.

To answer WBG's questions, I'm not sure about VE yet. I will let you know what I take a look at him.

I will get back to you on Foolishness.

Yeah testing nukes on someone who hasn't posted and I would normally be ok with policy lynching sure is questionable!

I've also posted reads on people like BH, MZ and others while trying to stimulate discussion and push people for their reasons, but fuck that, I have only tunneled you


I really like how you convinently appear whenever I do. You haven't post reads on others nearly to the extent that you have on me. I would hardly call what you have been doing as generating dicussion. I think people have even forgotten that you were in the game. No one every says anything to you or about you.

Just because no one talks to me doesnt mean I'm not trying to help discussions. People probably ignore me cause foolishness says so
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 05:33 GMT
#712
wbg. He finds syllo kinda suspicous but doesnt really post any reason, wants to lynch BH and "outted" Kurumi. Am I missing something? I disagree with his read on BH. I think Kurumi is like dead or something.... I am still all for MZ lynch (he included him in his list of Palmar/syllo/MZ but hasn't really commented on MZ or Palmar other than + Show Spoiler +
On July 17 2012 02:27 sandroba wrote:
Palmar why are you playing like ass right now. Surely you can do better than this. Even as scum I expected more from you.

On July 17 2012 02:31 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 02:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 17 2012 02:10 supersoft wrote:
yes of course, but do you think it's worth mentioning? This stuff is common sense. dont you think that these thought are rather thoughts a scumplayer has, because he has to control and plan who he accuses?

Could you quote stuff? I didn't realize this was directed at me. I actually do think it's worth pointing out because in a normal game, the only people who suddenly change their minds are DTs who got a red (or green) check. Someone doing an about face is often a good way of lynching scum without having to claim DT. In this game however, it'll be scum doing about faces so I think it's good to get it out there so we don't have to sift through multiple DT claims later in the game.

Why in hell are you still talking about this. Isn't there anything more productive for you to comment on?

)

What exactly are you looking for me to take from sandroba's filter that I haven't already commented on?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 18:27 GMT
#824
On July 18 2012 03:17 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 03:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Glad people are paying attention and voting BH.

Posts like this though are a problem. The last thing we want is to give scum more information on sandro's role.

On July 18 2012 00:31 austinmcc wrote:
Voting sandroba until he reveals his power.


Don't waste your vote like that, try and do something productive.


is this poor attempt to look useful by austin a scumtell or is he just useless all the time?

he's not useless at all

what do you think of MZ
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 18:44 GMT
#830
On July 18 2012 03:32 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 03:27 Mattchew wrote:
On July 18 2012 03:17 supersoft wrote:
On July 18 2012 03:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Glad people are paying attention and voting BH.

Posts like this though are a problem. The last thing we want is to give scum more information on sandro's role.

On July 18 2012 00:31 austinmcc wrote:
Voting sandroba until he reveals his power.


Don't waste your vote like that, try and do something productive.


is this poor attempt to look useful by austin a scumtell or is he just useless all the time?

he's not useless at all

what do you think of MZ


I disagree Matt. I just read through his filter in LVI as town. He actually talks about his reads and who he wants to lynch when he's town.

In this game, the only thing related to actual play (and not setup) he ever said was that matt's case on Katina and Katina's case on Palmar looked wrong. I've asked him twice now for thoughts both on BH/MZ and on who his scum reads might be and he hasn't bothered to say anything. He's parked his vote on sandroba for no other reason than that he wants to know what his role is.

Looks like scum to me.

I meant exactly what you said, he's not useless, which is why this game is weird
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 19:32 GMT
#839
On July 18 2012 04:17 gonzaw wrote:

@Mattchew: What do you think of Katina now? Do you still think she's scum?
How do you respond to me pointing out Palmar posted the RL thing as scum? Does it change your read on Katina or Palmar?
I would have thought you'd not instantly jump on someone based on that RL thing without checking it out at first.
I don't really see you caring about the game right now either. You think Katina is scum yet you are just asking irrelevant questions and posting one-liners.
Fuck, Mattchew you act like this every game and I don't know if you do it on purpose at times.

I actually read that and meant to respond, but forgot to put it in the thread.

Firstly I read the post as if it was written in postgame discussion which was a dumb assumption but I don't think it changes its meaning

I don't think his alignment had anything to do with his thoughts on Random Lynching in that game. I mean ace literally said in the next post that he completely agreed with Palmar about Random lynching and Ace was town. I don't think was a trick tried by Palmar or anything like that in either game. Theres a decent chance at that point he had not even read his role PM (a. I know he has done this before and b. he didn't post in the scum qt till way later)

I am trying to care about the game but there is so much E-Penis measuring going on and unexplained reads that I find all of this pretty hard to follow, and when I ask people to elaborate, I am very much ignored

Right now, I believe Kurumi to be scum and nuked cause when I tried to launch a nuke it didn't go off
I believe Katina, MZ and Rastaban to all be very suspicous and scummy. Hence my poking and prodding at people about them.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 19:35 GMT
#842
Katina's arguments with me also reminds me of when we argued in MTG theme (not actual MTG) Mafia, (Foolishness I would love for you to look at that game for a game where she posts more than twice a day and seemingly cares)
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 19:42 GMT
#848
On July 18 2012 04:40 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 04:35 Mattchew wrote:
Katina's arguments with me also reminds me of when we argued in MTG theme (not actual MTG) Mafia, (Foolishness I would love for you to look at that game for a game where she posts more than twice a day and seemingly cares)


Her play isn't really like that here. All she did in MTG was tunnel you and Nova_Terra with pointless reasoning.

Do you think she hasnt tunneled me and Palmar this game? and Do you think her reasoning is good?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 19:45 GMT
#851
On July 18 2012 04:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 04:35 Mattchew wrote:
Katina's arguments with me also reminds me of when we argued in MTG theme (not actual MTG) Mafia, (Foolishness I would love for you to look at that game for a game where she posts more than twice a day and seemingly cares)


I'm not seeing it right now Matt. I don't see Katina's play in this game as very much equivalent to that game at all. I think you're getting a bit of confirmation bias from the first post that you criticised.

you think her responses to my case on her are good and townie?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 17 2012 22:40 GMT
#983
On July 18 2012 07:35 Palmar wrote:
It makes very little sense for austinmcc to take such a controversial stance as scum. I've never played with the guy before, but when something looks good and is agreed on by town, it's generally not scum who stand up and put their necks on the line to call town out on it.

I don't agree with him, but in a game where I was expecting mafia to be awfully self-aware, his play seems straight up counterproductive. It's a very weird/dumb/ballsy thing to do as mafia.

And no, BlazingHand is town. stop voting him.

Can we kill MZ instead pls?

Since my Katina push isn't going anywhere (hey anyone notice that awesome reasoning she had for voting BH?) I will aid you in the pushing and killing of MZ

##unvote
##vote Meapak_Ziphh
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 01:53 GMT
#1092
On July 18 2012 10:35 Probulous wrote:
@SloOsh, you still around?

Same to Katina, Mattchew and Chez?

here just got out a LoL game WHATUP
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 02:18 GMT
#1096
I don't think I am comfortable with a Gonzaw lynch.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 02:43 GMT
#1103
I would rather no lynch than lynch gonzaw

GASP OMG WUT

yeah I said it

I don't read him as scum and as of now I think he would be a mislynch. BUT MATTCHEW WE NEED TO LYNCH TO SEE INFORMATIONS ON PEOPLES... yeah well, only 1 (maybe 2) people know the scum team, so a day 1 mislynch provides extremely little to town in comparison to other games.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 03:26 GMT
#1123
I think Gonzaw is overwhelmed (not enough time) and that very much plays into why his meta would seem off. His confidence seems to be gone without being able to be the most dominant (usually by sheer volume) poster in the thread. I think this is the first time I have ever seen this little filter out of him and I think this all stems from not having enough time. I think his reactions and posts are sincere and truthful
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 03:35 GMT
#1126
On July 18 2012 12:32 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 12:26 Mattchew wrote:
I think Gonzaw is overwhelmed (not enough time) and that very much plays into why his meta would seem off. His confidence seems to be gone without being able to be the most dominant (usually by sheer volume) poster in the thread. I think this is the first time I have ever seen this little filter out of him and I think this all stems from not having enough time. I think his reactions and posts are sincere and truthful

I see u are on MZ. Gonzaw and mh are our leading candidates and it looks like I agree to give gonzaw a bit more time. Will u switch to MH?

I assume you mean BH as in BlazingHand and no
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 03:49 GMT
#1139
On July 18 2012 12:48 rastaban wrote:
I thought the nuke was real as well despite knowing chez's trolling so I agree that isn't a good reason to vote him. If I was him though I would have blocked Ks nuke when I learned he was scum but he didn't. I find that to be the more suspicious part.

why... kurumi doesn't know who scum is
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 18 2012 04:28 GMT
#1170
My vote has been stolen. I have no control over where it is placed for this cycle.

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