EPTOn July 28 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Gonzaw.
Gonzaw.
Him or Risk. it will confirm Austin's role. If they flip town then we can start looking at the chez, katina theory again....
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rastaban
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Him or Risk. it will confirm Austin's role. If they flip town then we can start looking at the chez, katina theory again.... | ||
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rastaban
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Q-bert-Z should be our last go to right now as it doesn't confirm Austin's version. | ||
syllogism
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On July 28 2012 06:55 rastaban wrote: I mean we know Risk either got or sent that PM so it is 100% scum unless Austin is lying. The message is apparently very Gonzaw, so that makes him 95% scum. But since him being scum is predicated on risk being scum, I like risk just a tad better. Q-bert-Z should be our last go to right now as it doesn't confirm Austin's version. No we don't know that if there is a mafia role that can make it appear someone got a message they actually didn't, which is why I would rather lynch katina/gonzaw first. If katina is a minion as it appears, her role may provide some information. | ||
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marvellosity
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which of the candidates (risk/katina/gonzaw/qbert), if they flipped town, would leave us not knowing what to do next? can we eliminate anyone like this? | ||
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syllogism
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VisceraEyes
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rastaban
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On July 28 2012 06:56 syllogism wrote: No we don't know that if there is a mafia role that can make it appear someone got a message they actually didn't, which is why I would rather lynch katina/gonzaw first. If katina is a minion as it appears, her role may provide some information. I see, so you think mafia might have sent that to risk as the messenger? then who messaged Chezinu? do you they have 2 messengers? | ||
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marvellosity
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On July 28 2012 06:58 marvellosity wrote: maybe it's best to think in worst case scenarios which of the candidates (risk/katina/gonzaw/qbert), if they flipped town, would leave us not knowing what to do next? can we eliminate anyone like this? i'd seriously like this answered by people who have thought about this more deeply than me | ||
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syllogism
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On July 28 2012 07:00 rastaban wrote: I see, so you think mafia might have sent that to risk as the messenger? then who messaged Chezinu? do you they have 2 messengers? I don't know the timing of these messages and the problem with my theory is that pretty much also requires a role that gets information about who is being targeted by day actions so they know where to send the message. There is a reason to believe that such a role exists if we believe mafia messenger sent that second message to chezinu, because there is no reason to send that "incriminating" message unless mafia knew the messages would get intercepted. Could mafia really have a messenger role, a role that can send "fake" messages (it's possible that it's not actually fake and risk hasn't been around yet to read it) and a role that can see who are being targeted by day/night actions. I suppose one role could have multiple powers. | ||
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HiroPro
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syllogism
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VisceraEyes
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On July 28 2012 07:06 syllogism wrote: No, katina is clearly mafia due to not posting that message she got earlier and because to "incriminate" chezinu mafia had to know the content of the message chezinu sent to her All the offending message says is "I'm lonely, figure it out" or something right? Why would that require knowledge of what Chez sent to Katina? | ||
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rastaban
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We already saw Kurumi and Zealos didn't post in much more questionable situations. | ||
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syllogism
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On July 28 2012 07:17 VisceraEyes wrote: All the offending message says is "I'm lonely, figure it out" or something right? Why would that require knowledge of what Chez sent to Katina? Because in the message chezinu sent to katina he pretends to be foolishness, which is a clever way of answering the cryptic "I'm lonely, figure it out" (she is lonely because foolishness is dead). | ||
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syllogism
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marvellosity
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HiroPro
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On July 28 2012 07:18 rastaban wrote: but they didn't know I was checking him ,there is no point to incriminate him as he could just post it. and why would she post that message, it is obvious who it was from. We already saw Kurumi and Zealos didn't post in much more questionable situations. I think the rastaban has the right thinking here. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On July 28 2012 07:21 syllogism wrote: Well whatever, I'm done speculating and explaining. I could be wrong or right, but we can just ignore the messages for now and lynch katina/gonzaw first. We have enough lynches to go through all the parties involved. Yeah I'm fine with waiting for more info. As I said, if we're limiting to those two, I prefer Gonzaw. Like...rather than answer gonzaw's (then still mounting) suspicions he brushes them aside as "oh it's just confirmation bias at this point" which could be true or not, but it seems an innocent gonzaw, as verbose as he tends to be, would explain in great detail why Probulous is mistaken. The fact that he didn't seems to indicate that he can't or doesn't care to...which given the amount gonzaw has been posting, it seems more likely that he can't. | ||
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VisceraEyes
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VisceraEyes
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Psh, whatever they can just WIFOM over who I prefer at this point. Hear that guys?! I DON'T KNOW who I want to go first! Figure it out! | ||
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