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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 19:01 GMT
#3621
On July 17 2012 17:25 Q-bert-Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 16:09 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys, do you remember when people did not believe than a non-clue game would work? Do you remember what happened after a few non-clue games were hosted? Behavior analysis was proven to be true..

Hey guys, do you remember when people use to think a random lynch was a good idea? Do you remember what happened after a few nukes when off? Nukes were proven to be true..

Hey guys, do you remember when people use to think that Chezinu was unreadable? Do you remember what happened after people tried to analyze Chezinu? Chezinu was proven to be Chezinu..


Chezinu is Truth.

Layabout
Bill Murray
austinmcc
GGQ

My friends, you need to speak up more. I must say my suspicions are rising because of your lack of contribution. Especially GGQ, who has been around and still not contributed.

This post seems like a good candidate for the "if you have the passive role make a passing accusation of one of the quiet players." order. If I recall correctly, he hasn't been under much attack either and mafia usually love attacking easy targets like him. We know that he at least doesn't have an active day role due to BM stealing his vote at one point. I can't see any reason to believe he is town anyway.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 26 2012 19:05 GMT
#3622
I did read. Just thought it was interesting.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 19:08 GMT
#3623
Actually I'm convinced that post is him following the role breadcrumbing instructions and that he is a minon. He also made a post attacking people sheeping palmar wagon. He didn't vote because BM stole his vote and put it on palmar

On July 24 2012 05:57 Q-bert-Z wrote:
Baa baa black sheep, have you any votes?
Yessir, three scum, have found a scape-goat.

What if a scum voted someone and everyone sheeped him? If sandroba jumped off a cliff would you follow him?

Once upon a time, there was a sheep who never gave opinions. The town lynched him then continued on to victory because they were able to hold people accountable for their votes!

But what am I saying. Those are just fairy tales.

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2012 19:09 GMT
#3624
On July 27 2012 04:05 Katina wrote:
I did read. Just thought it was interesting.


makes no sense

On July 27 2012 04:01 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 17:25 Q-bert-Z wrote:
On July 17 2012 16:09 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys, do you remember when people did not believe than a non-clue game would work? Do you remember what happened after a few non-clue games were hosted? Behavior analysis was proven to be true..

Hey guys, do you remember when people use to think a random lynch was a good idea? Do you remember what happened after a few nukes when off? Nukes were proven to be true..

Hey guys, do you remember when people use to think that Chezinu was unreadable? Do you remember what happened after people tried to analyze Chezinu? Chezinu was proven to be Chezinu..


Chezinu is Truth.

Layabout
Bill Murray
austinmcc
GGQ

My friends, you need to speak up more. I must say my suspicions are rising because of your lack of contribution. Especially GGQ, who has been around and still not contributed.

This post seems like a good candidate for the "if you have the passive role make a passing accusation of one of the quiet players." order. If I recall correctly, he hasn't been under much attack either and mafia usually love attacking easy targets like him. We know that he at least doesn't have an active day role due to BM stealing his vote at one point. I can't see any reason to believe he is town anyway.


makes sense.

Ahm 5 hours left. Thoughts?

supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2012 19:10 GMT
#3625
On July 27 2012 04:08 syllogism wrote:
Actually I'm convinced that post is him following the role breadcrumbing instructions and that he is a minon. He also made a post attacking people sheeping palmar wagon. He didn't vote because BM stole his vote and put it on palmar

Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 05:57 Q-bert-Z wrote:
Baa baa black sheep, have you any votes?
Yessir, three scum, have found a scape-goat.

What if a scum voted someone and everyone sheeped him? If sandroba jumped off a cliff would you follow him?

Once upon a time, there was a sheep who never gave opinions. The town lynched him then continued on to victory because they were able to hold people accountable for their votes!

But what am I saying. Those are just fairy tales.



"attack sandroba"
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2012 19:15 GMT
#3626
On July 19 2012 08:12 Q-bert-Z wrote:
My fellow workers, I have been given a mask from Chezinu. It looks serious, let's see what it does...

*puts on mask*

Most intriguing. It seems to do nothing. But it looks cool.

I found a book on the floor just now, I think it belongs to Palmar. It was written by Sun Tzu, and when I picked it up I found that it was turned to a page that said "“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle”

If we are to throw off the chains of tyranny we must understand the psyche of the those who would enslave us. The majority of them out there know nothing until the are contacted. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who is an enemy of the common worker, but is still at risk of being fired by those over him. They cannot appear too pro-worker or they may be shot. They cannot appear too pro-bureaucrat or they will be fired. If you ask me, this sounds like the position that a Mole is in, where they must focus on surviving the lay-offs. Palmar must have been the owner of the book, because he mentioned this earlier, but nobody really paid attention.

Welp, it's getting hot in here, so I'm going to take this thing off.

*takes mask off*

AMERICA!


I didn't even think once about the mole at this time
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 26 2012 19:15 GMT
#3627
sloosh is lying.

fuck this, I'm an alignment cop. N1 I checked sandrob, N2 I didn't get a check because I was away, N3 I checked sloosh and he came back mafia.

This is why I've dropped off on rastaban a bunch. I didn't want to claim because I thought we were going to lynch sloosh as part of the progression of scummy people I've talked about earlier but seeing as it looks like he's going to get completely away with this I'll claim.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 19:16 GMT
#3628
On July 27 2012 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
sloosh is lying.

fuck this, I'm an alignment cop. N1 I checked sandrob, N2 I didn't get a check because I was away, N3 I checked sloosh and he came back mafia.

This is why I've dropped off on rastaban a bunch. I didn't want to claim because I thought we were going to lynch sloosh as part of the progression of scummy people I've talked about earlier but seeing as it looks like he's going to get completely away with this I'll claim.

Are you kidding? He is mafia traitor and almost certainly shows up mafia on alignment checks
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 26 2012 19:17 GMT
#3629
On July 27 2012 04:15 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 08:12 Q-bert-Z wrote:
My fellow workers, I have been given a mask from Chezinu. It looks serious, let's see what it does...

*puts on mask*

Most intriguing. It seems to do nothing. But it looks cool.

I found a book on the floor just now, I think it belongs to Palmar. It was written by Sun Tzu, and when I picked it up I found that it was turned to a page that said "“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle”

If we are to throw off the chains of tyranny we must understand the psyche of the those who would enslave us. The majority of them out there know nothing until the are contacted. Put yourself in the shoes of someone who is an enemy of the common worker, but is still at risk of being fired by those over him. They cannot appear too pro-worker or they may be shot. They cannot appear too pro-bureaucrat or they will be fired. If you ask me, this sounds like the position that a Mole is in, where they must focus on surviving the lay-offs. Palmar must have been the owner of the book, because he mentioned this earlier, but nobody really paid attention.

Welp, it's getting hot in here, so I'm going to take this thing off.

*takes mask off*

AMERICA!


I didn't even think once about the mole at this time

This almost looks like scum trying to bait the mole out.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 26 2012 19:17 GMT
#3630
Ha I knew I figured it out!
Yes, it's likely BH shot Foo' and sloosh fake-claimed the shot to "add to the chaos" and stuff; so it was all orchestrated by the higher-ups.
Meh, should have known some scum would just do what they were told without asking questions, since if sloosh was playing by himself that claim would have made no sense :/


You know, fuck it.
Nobody seems to listen to me, but I don't want to get misslynched this game, so I'll vote MZ.

Like I said it's possible he's town but maybe I'm wrong:

##Unvote: Zealos
##Vote: Meapak_Zipph


As for the rest of the team, I think Katina and Zealos would be the 1 remaining minions. Hmm, Katina could be executive though, specially if Foo' was the CEO, since it'd make better communications between them.
If you guys are right and MZ is the other executive, that leaves one minion/executive seat.
I think austin is the most likely to be scum out of them, but if somehow he's town....well, I'm not exactly sure, could be anyone of risk.nuke/rastaban/QBertz/Mattchew/Hiro, but we can deal with that later.
If Katina is minion, then it's possible Mattchew is Chairman, since I don't really think austin or one of the others would be executives.
Again assuming MZ is the executive like you guys said, but if he's town, then Mattchew+Katina would make sense as executive couple to me. They've been attacking each other ever since D1 but they never put each other as top scumreads, which could mean they figured out their alignment by now or Foo' insinuated it to them so they backed out.

I'm not too sure about Mattchew since he seem too calm, different than when he's scum, but it's possible he changed his play for this game to not make it too obvious to Can't Believe (since he was scum there as well), so we don't make the connection between both games immediately.

I doubt supersoft is scum by now, I think that "counterclaim" they were setting up was indeed BH. With BH claiming we know he'd start a giant shitstorm with sloosh that would clog up the thread.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 26 2012 19:17 GMT
#3631
On July 27 2012 04:16 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
sloosh is lying.

fuck this, I'm an alignment cop. N1 I checked sandrob, N2 I didn't get a check because I was away, N3 I checked sloosh and he came back mafia.

This is why I've dropped off on rastaban a bunch. I didn't want to claim because I thought we were going to lynch sloosh as part of the progression of scummy people I've talked about earlier but seeing as it looks like he's going to get completely away with this I'll claim.

Are you kidding? He is mafia traitor and almost certainly shows up mafia on alignment checks

No, sloosh is scum.

Think about this claim more dynamically.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 19:18 GMT
#3632
On July 27 2012 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 04:16 syllogism wrote:
On July 27 2012 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
sloosh is lying.

fuck this, I'm an alignment cop. N1 I checked sandrob, N2 I didn't get a check because I was away, N3 I checked sloosh and he came back mafia.

This is why I've dropped off on rastaban a bunch. I didn't want to claim because I thought we were going to lynch sloosh as part of the progression of scummy people I've talked about earlier but seeing as it looks like he's going to get completely away with this I'll claim.

Are you kidding? He is mafia traitor and almost certainly shows up mafia on alignment checks

No, sloosh is scum.

Think about this claim more dynamically.

Foolishness' flip confirms that there is a mafia traitor in the game. If sloosh isn't it, the real traitor would counterclaim.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 26 2012 19:19 GMT
#3633
On July 27 2012 04:18 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 27 2012 04:16 syllogism wrote:
On July 27 2012 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
sloosh is lying.

fuck this, I'm an alignment cop. N1 I checked sandrob, N2 I didn't get a check because I was away, N3 I checked sloosh and he came back mafia.

This is why I've dropped off on rastaban a bunch. I didn't want to claim because I thought we were going to lynch sloosh as part of the progression of scummy people I've talked about earlier but seeing as it looks like he's going to get completely away with this I'll claim.

Are you kidding? He is mafia traitor and almost certainly shows up mafia on alignment checks

No, sloosh is scum.

Think about this claim more dynamically.

Foolishness' flip confirms that there is a mafia traitor in the game. If sloosh isn't it, the real traitor would counterclaim.

You should try thinking sometime, it might actually do you some good.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 19:20 GMT
#3634
Oh I see, why not just say it then?
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2012 19:20 GMT
#3635
On July 27 2012 04:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 04:18 syllogism wrote:
On July 27 2012 04:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On July 27 2012 04:16 syllogism wrote:
On July 27 2012 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
sloosh is lying.

fuck this, I'm an alignment cop. N1 I checked sandrob, N2 I didn't get a check because I was away, N3 I checked sloosh and he came back mafia.

This is why I've dropped off on rastaban a bunch. I didn't want to claim because I thought we were going to lynch sloosh as part of the progression of scummy people I've talked about earlier but seeing as it looks like he's going to get completely away with this I'll claim.

Are you kidding? He is mafia traitor and almost certainly shows up mafia on alignment checks

No, sloosh is scum.

Think about this claim more dynamically.

Foolishness' flip confirms that there is a mafia traitor in the game. If sloosh isn't it, the real traitor would counterclaim.

You should try thinking sometime, it might actually do you some good.


I don't get it. Could you please be more precise?
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 26 2012 19:21 GMT
#3636
I have a red check on sloosh. We need to be lynching him.

oh and for supersoft

##Nuke: sloosh
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 26 2012 19:21 GMT
#3637
Wait

MZ, can you explain the choices of your targets each night?
What makes you think the mole would not come back as mafia?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 19:22 GMT
#3638
I think we should probably believe meapak and lynch sloosh, although I'm quite convinced Gonzaw is mafia as well.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 26 2012 19:22 GMT
#3639
On July 27 2012 04:21 gonzaw wrote:
Wait

MZ, can you explain the choices of your targets each night?
What makes you think the mole would not come back as mafia?

I think he is not allowed to claim
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 26 2012 19:22 GMT
#3640
On July 27 2012 04:20 syllogism wrote:
Oh I see, why not just say it then?

I'm a cop, I'll die tonight.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
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