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On July 09 2012 23:43 Zephirdd wrote:
I didnt change cuz I was away. My read on him at night was "stubborn town". God damnit, I was pretty sure it was a freaking slip. But prpl said he was rb'd.
Back to VE then.
##unvote
##vote visceraeyes
But how did you get from thinking he was scum to stubborn town?
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MrZentor - your read on Sinensis day 1 was "cautious, lurky" scum, and you've come out strong with a vote on him day 2. Yet Sinensis is no longer cautious, nor lurky. So what makes up your scumread on him?
When he realized that acting like that was going to get him lynched, he tried something new.
He's still scum.
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On July 09 2012 23:59 MrZentor wrote:Show nested quote +MrZentor - your read on Sinensis day 1 was "cautious, lurky" scum, and you've come out strong with a vote on him day 2. Yet Sinensis is no longer cautious, nor lurky. So what makes up your scumread on him? When he realized that acting like that was going to get him lynched, he tried something new. He's still scum.
Why is he still scum? That's not a reason.
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Because what he did initially and how he transitioned out of doing that is extremely scummy.
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How is it extremely scummy? For god's sake, make an effort.
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Make an effort yourself.
Look through his filter, and if you can't find anything scummy, look at the cases against him.
Why do I need to convince you? A lot of the town already agrees that Sinensis is scum.
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Because you've given no reason why what he's done subsequently is extremely scummy and yet you are voting for him.
I am not voting for him.
Do you understand yet?
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I understand that it would be extremely difficult to get a scum to vote for his scum buddy this early in the day.
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On July 10 2012 00:13 MrZentor wrote:
Make an effort yourself.
Look through his filter, and if you can't find anything scummy, look at the cases against him.
Why do I need to convince you? A lot of the town already agrees that Sinensis is scum.
Wow. You have just refused to give your opinion about three time in 10 minutes
We may have found some more scum
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Consider the following a threat.
Town will lynch you today if you don't provide adequate reasoning.
I subbed into LVI on day 1 three hours before lynch-time and got someone with no votes lynched. You don't think I can lynch you with 1.5 days remaining as confirmed townie?
##Vote: MrZentor
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If I'm going to provide "adequate reason" I'll probably end up copying BlueLight's case, because he showed why Sinensis is scum much better than I ever could.
How is that helpful to anyone?
If you really want me to reiterate the case against Sinensis, you're just going to be wasting everybody's time.
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Then you die today. Well done.
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So you're going to lynch somebody just because they oppose your terrible reasoning?
That's sad.
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My terrible reasoning is only that you refused to give a reason for why you thought Sinenis is scum.
The living confirmed townie (me) currently does not have a scumread on Sinensis. The dead confirmed townie (bugs) had a townread on Sinensis. And you sit here asking me why you need to convince me to vote him?
Die scum.
Town, vote with me.
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Guess what!
You aren't the town!
We can easily get the majority to vote for Sinensis without you, and you still think I need to convince you?
Just being you're a confirmed town doesn't mean your read is correct.
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marv I said his game could be over in the sense that the scum theme of this game is apathy / laziness. Am I ripping off what incognito did in Mafia L? Yea. drwiggl3s flips town. I can see how Sinensis could be stubborn / unco-operative town this game. prplhz looks townish to me. Therefore from scum perspective town is totally wrong and they don't really have to risk vocally doing something noticeable. Kinda like how after the bout in Movie Mini was over scum were easy to pick off.
We have what, 3 blue claims? From my perspective all I have to do is pick out 3 scum from 7 players and evaluate the blue claims. And I think all three claims are looking legit. I was toying with the idea that it wouldn't make sense from balance, but that would be pointless because 3 blues could be sensible depending on scum roles, of which the only we could know of beside lynching & flipping is an rber.
I was and very much am for a MrZentor lynch as well.
##Vote: MrZentor
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On July 09 2012 23:56 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2012 23:43 Zephirdd wrote:
I didnt change cuz I was away. My read on him at night was "stubborn town". God damnit, I was pretty sure it was a freaking slip. But prpl said he was rb'd.
Back to VE then.
##unvote
##vote visceraeyes
But how did you get from thinking he was scum to stubborn town?
In my eyes, there is little difference from both. scum acting stubborn means they can say a lot and say "this is how I play"(ahem VE). however, I can see someone stubborn - say, FourFace! - acting the way he is as town too.
The slip was the deciding factor into determining the difference... if it were true.
HOWEVER! Not everything was lost!
The fact that prplhz claimed to be roleblocked means that we can assume a few things.
1- D77 is indeed a jailer.
2- prplhz can't be scum if Sinensis is town. A scum prplhz would just claim to not be roleblocked, which would cast suspicion on both D77 and Sinensis.
Which is great and follows my idea of "Sinensis is just stubborn"
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Yo MrZentor,
I (slOosh), the main pusher for the Sinensis lynch, has decided he is looking townish even in light of everything I said D1. Clearly there is reason behind this. I'm not there to piggyback off anymore.
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On July 10 2012 00:28 MrZentor wrote:
Guess what!
You aren't the town!
We can easily get the majority to vote for Sinensis without you, and you still think I need to convince you?
Just being you're a confirmed town doesn't mean your read is correct.
You underestimate me, and playing power games with me will not end well for you.
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The issue I have with MrZentor lynch is... erm...
MrZentor, what was your relation to MsZontar? Is she your wife, girlfriend, sister, friend, roommate...?
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