EPT1 FOR TALISMAN (iGROK)
2 FOR iGROK (RISEN, MISTER SATURN)
SSB-64 Mafia - Page 15
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
1 FOR TALISMAN (iGROK) 2 FOR iGROK (RISEN, MISTER SATURN) | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
Not liking iGrok's lack of reasoning currently. grush is also an easy pick due to a very lurky playstyle up till now. I'll go to sleep soon, I won't place my vote until tomorrow, I want to see how things advance first. If you have questions to me before I go, ask now. | ||
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HomerunBat
Oman114 Posts
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Mister Saturn
Vatican City State155 Posts
The way I see it, they are posting and around, yet they present no ideas of their own and seem content to merely agree with the general feel of the thread. Looks like scum to me. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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Mister Saturn
Vatican City State155 Posts
- Hiro | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On July 03 2012 08:11 Mister Saturn wrote: What? I am not talking about Cephiro. - Hiro Oh you were directing that to ceph. thought you meant HBR and ceph were both acting that way. okay, then completely agree | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
There is however one interesting bit that stuck out to me slightly: On July 02 2012 20:03 HomerunBat wrote: I must admit, I have a hard time believing a bus driver being town-aligned, given the random (at least I assume so) distribution of alignment it is not out of the realm of possibility though. -Shiao He instantly stuck onto kingdedede's claim whereas everyone else seems to have mostly ignored it. (Or just acknowledged and moved on.) | ||
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Mister Saturn
Vatican City State155 Posts
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Mister Saturn
Vatican City State155 Posts
On July 03 2012 08:15 Cephiro wrote: As said, wanting to hear more from him currently. Due to the small size of the game I find it unlikely that both mafia members would be lurking around, although it's still a viable possibility. I'll wait until he posts thoughts, mostly null on him currently. There is however one interesting bit that stuck out to me slightly: He instantly stuck onto kingdedede's claim whereas everyone else seems to have mostly ignored it. (Or just acknowledged and moved on.) I wouldn't describe their behavior as lurking. It's more of post actively, yet say absolutely nothing. - Hiro | ||
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Cephiro
Finland1934 Posts
@Saturn, I'll give you my thoughts on HomerunBat again once I'm back, he'll hopefully have posted more by that. | ||
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HomerunBat
Oman114 Posts
As I said though, it's all me tonight, and it's past time to post something concrete. Risen- I think he is town. His poking and prodding of iGrok kick-started a lot of discussion. He has been bold and fearless in his disagreements, when it would have been so much easier to be passive, agree with the plan (like everyone else was doing), and not be worse off for it. iGrok- Shiao thought he had some weird ideas, but didn't think scum. This was from earlier, and I don't think it had changed. I don't think he is scum. Regarding his derp: it was either intentional or unintentional. Intentionally going against his own plan when it would be so bloody obvious that he did so is plain stupid from both a town or scum perspective. It must have been unintentional. I don't think he would make such an egregious mistake as scum. Think about it, he has since day 1 grabbed town by the balls and said 'this is what we should do, and here's how you know you can trust me.' It would be extremely bold, and require a LOT of work and attention to detail to keep up the facade. If he was actually going for that play style, you can bet your ass he'd have gotten his location PM right, because he'd be hyper aware of any miss-steps. This means it was unintentional town. Over and done imo. I want to lynch either Mister Saturn or grush today. Mister Saturn- His anger at iGrok seems very weird. It is honestly not difficult to think through what iGrok did, yet Saturn is all about shooting him. Yea it sucks he hasn't posted why he carried you, but is that really a reason to shoot him? Him overblowing the mistake looks scummy to me. grush- not much to say here. I've played with him before and he doesn't post much even with only 1 game going on. He is also in LVI, and is silent there too. I want him dead, plain and simple. We will be sorry if he is there late game. Flying spaghetti monster help us if he gets any items. Some other errata.. kingdedede's openness with the Yoshi claim gives me a warm fuzzy feeling. They are right that bus-driver can be crazy destructive in town hands, which makes the claim/transparency all the more pro-town. They claim they will explain all of their switches in detail, so I'm waiting to see what comes of that. Regarding talismania, I'd like to see more from him. He's begun to hunt for scum, but has been relatively quiet. I will say I that I don't like how he relies heavily on mod motivations for role splitting. This is Toad's game and unless you are in his head you won't know how he wanted to run this. We can make some generalizations about the typical set-up, but the first tool for scum hunting is and always will be the filters. I'm keeping my eye on him. Cephiro commented on Shiao's post about the bus-driver thing. I'll leave the final word to him obviously, but I will say that we had talked about Yoshi in our hydra QT and about how damaging they can be as a town-member. We were hesitant to pick Yoshi based on this, for fear that we would get towned, and end up possibly doing more harm than good. Others may be more confident of their skill here, but I can understand his thought process given our discussion. -s0L | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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Mister Saturn
Vatican City State155 Posts
Do you really not understand why it's scummy to target someone without providing any reasoning, push for a different lynch than the person you think is scum because revealing the role is more important, and then not provide any reasoning for why you think that person is scum..... - Hiro | ||
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HomerunBat
Oman114 Posts
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Mister Saturn
Vatican City State155 Posts
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:14 Mister Saturn wrote: + Show Spoiler + Do you really not understand why it's scummy to target someone without providing any reasoning, push for a different lynch than the person you think is scum because revealing the role is more important, and then not provide any reasoning for why you think that person is scum..... - Hiro I don't have to worry about doing things that are borderline scummy because anyone with half a brain knows I'm town (So, everyone except Risen). Townies can all tell and you and your teammate know as well. You won't shoot me because you'll die too, so idgaf about your threats. Even on the off chance that you are town, you still know i'm town because two half-brains make a full-brain and so you can still tell, even if you're still pissed you got hurt. At this point I just want to finish solving the game (85% done so far) and then sit back and watch it play out, with ceph grabbing tornados and | ||
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HomerunBat
Oman114 Posts
Also, there are two scum. Grush may be scum, I don't have any idea. I don't think anybody does. I don't want him around in the SSB version of LYLO. Depending on how talismania spends the rest of day 1, I might replace grush with him. I want to hear what Shiao has to say on him too. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 03 2012 09:27 HomerunBat wrote: Yea I kinda did provide reasoning. I pretty clearly read iGrok's derp as a townie mistake, and your reaction to it is telling. Are you still going to shoot iGrok? Also, there are two scum. Grush may be scum, I don't have any idea. I don't think anybody does. I don't want him around in the SSB version of LYLO. Depending on how talismania spends the rest of day 1, I might replace grush with him. I want to hear what Shiao has to say on him too. So defensive of iGrok. Almost like you "know" he's town. ##unvote ##vote: HomerunBat | ||
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