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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 28 2012 19:52 GMT
#1421
On June 29 2012 04:24 marvellosity wrote:
ok. rastaban/risk/matt opinions too please!

thx

prplhz is scum, but hes not the roleblocker
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 19:53 GMT
#1422
why is he not the roleblocker exactly?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 28 2012 19:55 GMT
#1423
he was roleblocked, and so was prob night 1.

meaning he was jailed, and roleblocker blocked prob
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 28 2012 19:57 GMT
#1424
that means hes not SK, and not roleblocker. I know hes not town cause me marv and risk are. Therefore he's scum but not the roleblocker
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 19:58 GMT
#1425
well done, you've at least read the thread/ his filter. Unlike some people before you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 28 2012 20:01 GMT
#1426
On June 29 2012 04:58 marvellosity wrote:
well done, you've at least read the thread/ his filter. Unlike some people before you.

I am trying to use logic over reads to narrow down the list of actual lynch targets and find the best one
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 28 2012 20:02 GMT
#1427
this makes me relatively sure of snarfs being the SK. I can't see shraft or rastaban being the SK. therefore we should lynch into them
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 20:03 GMT
#1428
anyone i asked the question to MUST address the roleblocker question, especially as I specifically said earlier we need to lynch the roleblocker. That's why I asked the question.

Why can't you see either of those being the SK?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 28 2012 20:10 GMT
#1429
On June 29 2012 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
anyone i asked the question to MUST address the roleblocker question, especially as I specifically said earlier we need to lynch the roleblocker. That's why I asked the question.

Why can't you see either of those being the SK?

I originally read a lot of fear in Rasta's posts. I think that his confidence has improved as days gone by (probably through the coaching and help of prplhz and sharft)

Sharft has skimmed by under the radar the whole game, why would he try to become such a vocal point now if he was SK?

Also, Snarfs posted his case about Zeph right before he was found dead, so that timing is crucial. He posts his vote on me, leaves, and then comes back after the lynch deadline with his reasons. He wants his thoughts to be heard but not looked at critically. I think he enjoys the town in chaos, and is vet enough to try and kill scum instead of trying to kill power townies
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 28 2012 20:17 GMT
#1430
Good catch on the prplhz not being role blocker I had forgot we had two blocks night one and was thinking he had fake claimed (the reason I said he might be if risk was fake claiming)

That means we have a 50/50 chance between shraft and snarfs of getting role blocker. It also means one of them was the shooter that night as the role blocker can't shoot on nights he role blocks, don't know if that will help in narrowing it down though. Time to go back through their filters.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 20:19 GMT
#1431
by 'good catch' you mean 'he bothered looking at prplhz's filter'
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 28 2012 20:22 GMT
#1432
On June 29 2012 05:19 marvellosity wrote:
by 'good catch' you mean 'he bothered looking at prplhz's filter'

he means "you caught somethign about my scum teammate i didn't want brought forward to the thread"
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 20:24 GMT
#1433
one way or another my information pool is growing. I'm on to the 4th page of my Holy Document of All Things.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 28 2012 20:33 GMT
#1434
On June 29 2012 05:24 marvellosity wrote:
one way or another my information pool is growing. I'm on to the 4th page of my Holy Document of All Things.

Our faith and hopes rest on your precious document. Treat it well.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 28 2012 20:41 GMT
#1435
On June 29 2012 04:11 marvellosity wrote:
prplhz tell me exactly why you're town please? serious question.

Okay. I think this is a silly exercise but whatever. I'm just scrolling over my filter and telling you how everything is townie.

The zentor push was a little hot headed and I probably shouldn't have focused him like that. I imagine scum would not think "Hey, I think I'm just going to tunnel zentor just because he was unpleasant last game". It's pretty silly but you and VisceraEyes from this game should be proof enough that losing your head is a townie thing to do.

I complain that Probulous is telling people that I suck and prove him wrong. Scum would probably just say "Yea, I suck don't ever listen to me." 'cause scum don't want to be listened to. Either they'll get listened to and they lynch scum which sucks or they lynch townies which also sucks for them. They just want to be ignored.

I worry about risk.nuke playing like he did last town game where he was mislynched. I tell him to be more active so he doesn't just get rolled over like that game 'cause I know how good he can be. I don't want to give anybody an excuse to lurk away and risk.nuke was a liability to town that game and I don't want him to be that again this game.

Even though I keep my reads to myself I answer slOosh's question because I was really impressed by him and his style in Pick Your Poison and I want him to be aware of my alignment and I want to get to know his alignment as fast as possible (I was very sure even on day1 in Pick Your Poison). It kinda sucks but when he died I was actually suspicious of him just 'cause I didn't have that same townie feeling about him. He had a really weird post on me that looked like he wanted to discredit me for some reason and some other things I don't remember right now. (He also thought that I was town which was why he jailed me).

My Zephirdd analysis was probably the best analysis in this thread. It convinced everybody and even lead to the SK shooting Zephirdd. Scum don't do analysis like that because they can't. Sucks that it was wrong though.

I repeatedly try to stop VisceraEyes and you because I don't see the case on you and your activity is pretty good but it needs to be used for something else.

I am really active. I'm around for as much time as possible, I was awake at 3am to play mafia and I was around for the deadlines. It sucks that I'm not around too much yesterday and today and tomorrow but that's just how it is.

My Shraft analysis is pretty good and came yesterday where I could just have jumped on one of VisceraEyes or you very easily. I tried repeatedly to shift focus away from you and make you use your energy for something that would benefit town 'cause I didn't see the case on any of you. I'm pretty sure that Shraft will flip scum and if you lynch him then you'll know that I'm the last townie just because of the simple fact that I pushed him over two townies yesterday.

Defended xsksc because risk.nuke hadn't read the thread properly. You should also note how I never go after risk.nuke 'cause I don't think he's scum, I just try to direct him in the right direction. I ask VisceraEyes and you about risk.nuke but even though you are both suspicious about him I don't just jump on what would seem easy, I read his filter and then I went on to Shraft's filter and I found that a lot more incriminating.

Seriously, look at how much I try to stop the VisceraEyes/marvellosity tunnelfest and push my lynch. I even commented on Probulous huge text wall just so VisceraEyes would take his eyes off of you for two god damn seconds and comment on my Shraft case! Scum would just sit back and think "rofl they're lynching each other and I can just coast by and do nothing and then complain after the lynch that 'I said so!'".

Overall style is quite active, quite transparent (not with everything 'cause I like to keep most of my reads to myself), not afraid to attack people and pressure them.

Yea I haven't been all that lucky with my scum reads in zentor and Zephirdd but I'm pretty sure that Shraft is scum and I think we should lynch him today. I also think that proper analysts could do a better job of this but I can't find all the subtle nuances of my own play 'cause it just seems very natural to me while other could probably get more into the behavioral part of it.

Latest: this post. You can't fake a post like this lol.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 28 2012 20:42 GMT
#1436
That was last post of today. If you want something else from me then let me know and I'll see if I can reply tomorrow.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 21:14 GMT
#1437
gosh, much longer than i was expecting.

this game is hard yo
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 21:17 GMT
#1438
right now I'm lynching in to two people but I'm not sure which yet
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 28 2012 21:29 GMT
#1439
Well if prplhz can't be RB then it leaves us with Shraft and Snarfs. Hopefully you realize I am not scum but it looks like you may think that is the case, so if you are in doubt pick whichever of those you think is least likely to be scum and I will gladly assist you in lynching the other.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
June 28 2012 21:34 GMT
#1440
yea I can defer the headache of prplhz because even if he's scum he's not roleblocker, so that's no use.

I also think I'm lynching into Snarfs and Shraft.

I want risk's input.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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