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On June 22 2012 08:25 Probulous wrote:Guys, guys, guys.... I'm sorry but I am town this game. Snarfs, that's mean and I thought we were friends  @VE, your vote makes little sense what happened to Marv? Actually, where is Marv, he owes me my alimony?
Votes = Tools
Not going over this again this game.
Also <3
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On June 22 2012 08:25 slOosh wrote:
Could you guys please cut back on the chatter / one liners? It may be harmless now but later on its really going to hamper thread legibility.
I think millers should auto claim (cf. WBG's Emergency Mini Mafia)
I think masons should auto claim (cf. WBG's 1st C9++)
I didn't like Zentor's play (cf. Hesmyrr's SoaF) but I don't know how he currently is so I'll leave it at that.
I think Snarfs is suspicious for taking prplhz too seriously.
Did you not find the tone of this post very serious:
On June 22 2012 07:41 prplhz wrote:
Okay whatever the fuck. I joined this game because I thought zentor had outed by meh. zentor is the default lynch for today because he's an unpleasant person just to have around. In case we don't find anything better then he should die just because of how destructive he is when he's town. I played with it once and I don't want to play with it again.
##Vote: MrZentor
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Following on from Sloosh's post, for those who haven't played a C9++ setup before here are the possible setups (Klicky)
It is worth noting that Bugs has altered this a little so we cannot rely on these as concrete rules. However the most important thing to remember is that in this setup, it is possible to have weird things such as two medics.
In short, be wary of claims.
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Psh...slOosh if you buzzkill the game like that again, you get lynched.
*grumblegrumble*
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On June 22 2012 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Votes = Tools. Not going over this again this game.
Fair enough, I forgot who I was asking. You did back off Marv pretty quickly though. Why?
I mean this is terrible and you pointed it out
On June 22 2012 07:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 07:29 marvellosity wrote:On June 22 2012 07:22 Mattchew wrote:
Marv, if you were to pick out the differences in your scum play and your town play, what would you point to? I like this question a lot. I think there are a couple of possible tells. But tell me what you think first. SCUM
On June 22 2012 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
The point of the self-evaluation was to see if you left anything out - obviously we can go and look for ourselves Marv, and we'll have our own opinion...but for you to turn the question around and ask for his answer first is incredibly scummy and immediately forces me to not trust you.
He still hasn't responded adequately. He is around note
On June 22 2012 08:17 marvellosity wrote:
VE, prplhz last played with Zentor in WoF.
Enough said really.
But is he isn't bothering to actually answer Mattchew's question. So yeah, why the let up?
Marv, I want that alimony!
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This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all.
In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase.
I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues.
If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues.
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apparently the C9++ setup confirms at least 2scum 1SK or 3scum or 3scum 1SK. So a "12 medic 1 scum" is, in fact, impossible.
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Probey, you'll have to get in touch with my lawyer.
And I have at least partly answered the question, you're just not on the ball enough to have worked it out yet.
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Yeah let's lynch marv. Prob you down?
##Vote: marvellosity
Hubris does NOT become you sir.
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On June 22 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all.
In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase.
I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues.
If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues.
Thanks, I will pass this on to my scumbuddies immediately.
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On June 22 2012 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
Probey, you'll have to get in touch with my lawyer.
And I have at least partly answered the question, you're just not on the ball enough to have worked it out yet.
count how many times anyone said i said or even hinted at anything scummy in LV
see the pressure i was under at the start in magic at the start for wanting to shoot NT off the bat
compare to current situation
Why are you so cryptic? It's your job to prove you're town so you should want to provide information to us.
##Vote marvellosity
This time it's personal
@Mattchew, you have nothing to say 
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lol, ok #1 scum response
##Vote: marvellosity
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it's not cryptic, it's blindingly fucking obvious. jesus christ
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On June 22 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all.
In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase.
I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues.
If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues.
I find this post entirely underwhelming zephir. You have basically reiterated what Probulous and slOosh already pointed out, then proceed to suggest something completely asinine (millers breadcrumbing).
Do you have nothing else in the thread to comment on?
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Yeah, it was his question - one would think he'd be either happy or dissatisfied with Marv's answer.
Probulous, what did you see when you went back and read Magic? When I went back, all I saw was a completely different opening strategy. I mean, he could just be doing a fast-expand or something, but it's looking kinda cheesy to me. :/
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A large number of us played in the original C9++ where I got ass raped. I would suggest reading Bug's post game analysis again. It highlights how scum can use fake claims to their advantage. In short, I don't want anyone to claim unless they are certain they can prove they're town.
Masons can wait, unless they are up for lynch, they should be quiet for today. Everyone else keep your mouth shut. We play this game based on posting, claim when you absolutely have to and not before then. The less opportunity we give to WIFOM us the better.
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Millers should claim now, that shouldn't really be up for debate :/
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My mistake on Zentor being included (I didn't see his /out and his /in post wasn't edited or removed)
I will resolve this shortly. Stay tuned.
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