Shoot him then. :/ I mean, you said you're more convinced now, what's with the show of agonizing over your shot? Just shoot him. I'm sorry I got manipulated, but I am human after all.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

June 27 2012 20:54 GMT

#1208

because i have a few targets i wouldn't mind shooting at, and town was all up my bum yesterday about wanting to control or at least have a say in my shot, and now town is silent about it.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 27 2012 21:02 GMT

#1209

Here are the scenarios as I seem them (speaking from the perspective that you actually have a shot and will use it tonight and are going to call your shot) if you shoot Matt.

1) Matt is town
- Scum will either allow you to kill him and it would have been a mislynch yesterday anyway. Your shot pseudo confirms your claim
- or scum will RB you

2) Matt is scum
- Scum will either RB you
- Or scum will let you kill Matt. -1 scum, your shot pseudo confirms your claim.

3) Matt is SK
- If he hasn't been shot yet, and he chose 1 shot bulletproof, then he might soak it up.
- Scum might RB you

In either scenario, you either soak up an RB or your shot goes through and you're pseudo confirmed. In this way, we either get to flip Matt or get information through other night-actions that may exist. In 3, if you shoot him, he lives and you're not notified of RB then you'll know you've found SK unless someone claims medic who protected him (because we do NOT get hit notifications)

Am I missing anything?

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

June 27 2012 21:11 GMT

#1210

On June 28 2012 06:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Here are the scenarios as I seem them (speaking from the perspective that you actually have a shot and will use it tonight and are going to call your shot) if you shoot Matt.

1) VE is town
- Scum will either allow you to kill him and it would have been a mislynch yesterday anyway. Your shot pseudo confirms your claim
- or scum will RB you

2) VE is scum
- Scum will either RB you
- Or scum will let you kill VE. -1 scum, your shot pseudo confirms your claim.

3) VE is SK
- If he hasn't been shot yet, and he chose 1 shot bulletproof, then he might soak it up.
- Scum might RB you

In either scenario, you either soak up an RB or your shot goes through and you're pseudo confirmed. In this way, we either get to flip Matt or get information through other night-actions that may exist. In 3, if you shoot him, he lives and you're not notified of RB then you'll know you've found SK unless someone claims medic who protected him (because we do NOT get hit notifications)

Am I missing anything?

You could literally do this of anyone.. see

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

June 27 2012 21:11 GMT

#1211

On June 28 2012 06:11 Mattchew wrote:

Show nested quote +

You could literally do this of anyone.. see

I wasn't on the block yesterday Matt, you were. You missed the point entirely.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

June 27 2012 21:13 GMT

#1212

On June 28 2012 06:11 VisceraEyes wrote:

Show nested quote +

I wasn't on the block yesterday Matt, you were. You missed the point entirely.

You shoot VE, he is either scum saving matt or he is townie save matt... you can draw plenty of conclusions about the scenario from that opinion too

risk.nuke

Sweden2825 Posts

June 27 2012 21:14 GMT

#1213

Ve posts lies and decietfullness.
I prove that what VE says is lies and deceitfullness.
VE is now ignoring nuke.
+10 scumpoints.

Marv I got a very good reccord of shooting scum (early) as vigilante. The only townie I ever shot was a good player who was destructive and stubbornly unhelpfull to me after I had shot scum night 1. And even then I was torn between two other players and both the other two were scum. I would shoot xsksc. If my opinion matters anything at all to you.

I haven't really looked into prplhz but I remember that when I read the thread my read on him have been swinging like a pendelum. Yes it's suspicious that he's not around now.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

June 27 2012 21:14 GMT

#1214

Its fucking hysterical that VE believes marv's claim enough to talk about it this much with him when he calls him scum the whole game. gah have I been wrong about the sides in the Marv/VE war this whole game.... fuck

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

June 27 2012 21:21 GMT

#1215

well it's too late to have this discussion now, I already shot

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

June 27 2012 21:22 GMT

#1216

wait, does this game have the 1hr resolution thing?

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

June 27 2012 21:26 GMT

#1217

On June 27 2012 13:03 wherebugsgo wrote:

[b][blue]Night action deadline is 21:00 GMT (+00:00); it is 17 hours from now. Daypost up one hour after that.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

June 27 2012 21:28 GMT

#1218

So i think deadline has past, but i think we have 30ish minutes till daypost...

if this is true, who'd you shoot?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

June 27 2012 21:30 GMT

#1219

I shot VE, of course

Probulous

Australia3894 Posts

June 27 2012 21:31 GMT

#1220

Hi guys just woke up.

Mattchew you said you pushed Marv all day long on day 1 but from what I read you only asked him the question and the pointed that you thought him suspicious. I even had to prod you for your opinion on him. Will check quotes when I get to a computer.