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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
On June 17 2012 19:53 marvellosity wrote: Mafia heuristic: if an outrageous play is retarded from both a scum and a town viewpoint, it is usually from mafia | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 27 2012 22:49 rastaban wrote: Allow me to quote a townie from the last game I played in: what outrageous play are you referring to here my dear? | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On June 27 2012 22:49 rastaban wrote: Allow me to quote a townie from the last game I played in: marv can speak for himself, but I don't consider what he did this game to be "outrageous" | ||
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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rastaban
United States2294 Posts
VE let his opinion supercede the votes of half the town He reacted when there could be no recourse or time to switch to a different lynch which is deceptive He filled the chat with spam between himself and marv for 2 days and then cops out at the last minute We don't get to see the flips on anyone discussed so we don't know what was right or wrong. Both marv and Matt were on his top list of scum As others have pointed out he specifically has stated that even if matt was town it wasn't that bad for town. We could have learned from the votes when we found out for sure what matt was, but now we don't know b/c you can be sure mafia isn't going to hit mat tonight. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
For someone who ragequit less than 12 hours ago, you're certainly finding a renewed fervor to continue marv. On June 27 2012 13:34 VisceraEyes wrote: And to be honest, he pushed the right button on me losing town the game. I didn't want people to sheep me onto him when I wasn't sure of his guilt myself. This was why I did what I did. As I've explained, Matt was my weakest scum read, and it was based on literally nothing but his absence from the thread. I put his name in red to try and get him back in the thread, it didn't work, skidoosh. I understand that I acted rashly, but taken with the fact that it was his question to marv D1, I couldn't pull the trigger on a Mattchew lynch. I'm sorry guys, but I couldn't. However the good news is that his reaction to living was fucking awful, so he's pretty much definitely scum...but yeah, he's still alive thanks to me. Again, the only explanation I have is that he pushed exactly the right buttton. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
Like, I removed my vote because I wasn't sure...but I'm sure now. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 27 2012 16:22 VisceraEyes wrote: I want risk.nuke dead. I'll elaborate later. Bedtime...sorry guy. ok but I'm after that. As you know I have a town read on risk at the moment. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
And that's it man, that's the extent of his problem with xsc. xsc hasn't even been a major figure in the game, what's his opinion on others? Do you know? Do you care? Why is he a town read? He was off-voting last night, and while he's decrying my actions regarding the lynch, his vote was uselessly parked on xsc. You at least were on Mattchew and I DID remove your part of getting the lynch done. Not risk though, he has NO right to be shitty or saying I'm "full of shit" when he can't be arsed to even SHOW UP for the fucking lynch. Twice in a row. I wonder what the excuse is last night, because unless I'm mistaken, midsummer is over. I can go post by post if you want marvel, but you're smart enough to get the gist of what I'm talking about without it so I'm going to refrain. | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
It was mainly these two things that really stood out for me: a) His asking marv a question at the beginning, then not checking back 7 minutes later to see the answer nor comment seemed like it was a really easy way to fake a contribution. b) The way he voted when he made his group of cases. If marv was one of his primary targets and marv was the clear vote leader, why vote rastaban? He claims that rastaban was his strongest scum read and he was willing to switch to marv, but he made it quite clear that he was almost certain marv was SK: On June 26 2012 12:05 Mattchew wrote: [--snip--] I actually should maybe color Marv black, because I think his play just feels very off. I think I lean him being the SK more than I do him being scum. Either way he eventually needs a noose. His filter is long and fluffy. A ton of arguing with VE but even more deflecting of actual answers... instead he resorts to inane arguments full of WIFOM and fallacys, like in all these filter enhancing posts. Can someone pick me out anything pro-town from these? [--snip--] "Either way he eventually needs a noose." That doesn't sound like someone on the fence to me. marv was clearly the more likely lynch and it would have made more sense to vote with others in order to ensure your reads are lynched. As for risk.nuke, my read isn't as strong: I really disliked how he didn't seem to care if marv shot VE. Especially after he said he was leaning slightly scum on marv for not seeing how townie VE could be. risk.nuke gives me this sense of not really caring who gets lynched or who gets shot, which has me leaning SK on him. risk, why you were willing to let marv shoot VE? Do you think VE is scum? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On June 28 2012 02:39 Snarfs wrote: Wow. I'm sorry for not posting my reasoning for Mattchew before I left, but I really didn't have time. It was mainly these two things that really stood out for me: a) His asking marv a question at the beginning, then not checking back 7 minutes later to see the answer nor comment seemed like it was a really easy way to fake a contribution. b) The way he voted when he made his group of cases. If marv was one of his primary targets and marv was the clear vote leader, why vote rastaban? He claims that rastaban was his strongest scum read and he was willing to switch to marv, but he made it quite clear that he was almost certain marv was SK: "Either way he eventually needs a noose." That doesn't sound like someone on the fence to me. marv was clearly the more likely lynch and it would have made more sense to vote with others in order to ensure your reads are lynched. As for risk.nuke, my read isn't as strong: I really disliked how he didn't seem to care if marv shot VE. Especially after he said he was leaning slightly scum on marv for not seeing how townie VE could be. risk.nuke gives me this sense of not really caring who gets lynched or who gets shot, which has me leaning SK on him. risk, why you were willing to let marv shoot VE? Do you think VE is scum? LOL so you voted cause I was away from the thread (and you ignore my comments about his answer in my second post after a post about how I was at a bar) and you then you vote me because I am sure that Marv is scum or sk and want to lynch him? Wow VE how much better does your decision feel now | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On June 28 2012 02:39 Snarfs wrote: Wow. I'm sorry for not posting my reasoning for Mattchew before I left, but I really didn't have time. -snip- a) His asking marv a question at the beginning, then not checking back 7 minutes later to see the answer nor comment seemed like it was a really easy way to fake a contribution. DOES ANYONE ELSE SEE THE HUGE CONTRADICTION HERE | ||
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Snarfs
Canada1006 Posts
How does that compare to your seeming lack of care about what marv's answer to your own question was? Hell, you claimed not to like his answer and that he was grasping at straws, and then you never pushed him further, you switched to MrZ and rastaban... | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On June 28 2012 03:15 Snarfs wrote: What? I wasn't convinced marv was scum so I switched my vote to one of two people I thought could be scum and would have a decent chance of being lynched. How does that compare to your seeming lack of care about what marv's answer to your own question was? Hell, you claimed not to like his answer and that he was grasping at straws, and then you never pushed him further, you switched to MrZ and rastaban... I have always pushed Marv as a candidate for lynch. Day 1 did he have any chance of getting lynched? Day 2 when the votes actually mattered, where was my vote? Oh right it was on Marv. I forgot that voting Rastaban forced me to stay with Rastaban the entire day whether he would get lynched or not. I wanted to push Rastaban to get him lynched. I still think he is scum, I still want him lynched. I voiced that I would vote Marv should Rastaban not be getting the votes to get lynched. Once again, the option to type ##unvote DOES IN FACT EXIST | ||
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xsksc
United Kingdom1044 Posts
On June 28 2012 02:08 VisceraEyes wrote: Read xsc's comments when he returned. When he came in, he had an opposing viewpoint regarding you than his predecessor had - yet one of risk's problems with him is that he came into the game and 'immediately tried justifying his predecessor's reads'. And that's it man, that's the extent of his problem with xsc. xsc hasn't even been a major figure in the game, what's his opinion on others? Do you know? Do you care? Why is he a town read? He was off-voting last night, and while he's decrying my actions regarding the lynch, his vote was uselessly parked on xsc. You at least were on Mattchew and I DID remove your part of getting the lynch done. Not risk though, he has NO right to be shitty or saying I'm "full of shit" when he can't be arsed to even SHOW UP for the fucking lynch. Twice in a row. I wonder what the excuse is last night, because unless I'm mistaken, midsummer is over. I can go post by post if you want marvel, but you're smart enough to get the gist of what I'm talking about without it so I'm going to refrain. I'm not even sure where you stop talking about me and start talking about risk o_O I'm exhausted - gonna go sleep, I'll reply in the morning, hopefully I can make more sense of this post then... | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On June 28 2012 03:29 xsksc wrote: I'm not even sure where you stop talking about me and start talking about risk o_O I'm exhausted - gonna go sleep, I'll reply in the morning, hopefully I can make more sense of this post then... The whole post is about risk. Sry for confusion. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
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