Movie Star Mini Mafia! - Page 2

On June 22 2012 08:41 Zephirdd wrote:
This is a semi-closed setup. If there are 13 players, it's possible that 12 are medics and 1 is a scum. Of course that's retarded as fuck, but nothing is concrete and we shouldn't think "but it's not common to 2 of X" exist ever. at all.

In fact, we can't even confirm the existence of a SK until after the night phase.

I'm not sure about Millers instaclaiming. While it clears path for cops(as it's pretty obvious that they will show red), it also reduces the number of possible blues, making it easier for scum. At least what I understood from the setup is that Millers can't be blues.

If anything, Millers should be breadcrumbing and claiming in case a cop calls them guilty. For all other purposes, they should be *Vanilla*(unclaimed, aka. possible blue) to make it harder for mafia to shoot into blues.

On June 22 2012 09:25 Zephirdd wrote:


What do you expect me to comment on? The stupid marvellosity push that is going on atm? Whether he flips scum or town, I'll say that whatever the fuck is going here is just play stupid. I guess it does provide some discussion, but it's mostly fingerpointing and going 'ZOMG HE PLAYD GOOD SCUMZ'

About claims(ie miller claims), I'm with probulous. Let's not reduce the number of possible blues so early. A good miller should show himself to be town, and a good cop should realize when he investigates a miller. I never liked early claims anyway.

On June 20 2012 06:58 wherebugsgo wrote:

Ignoring the day 1 vig fake claim we had the VE miller claim, which was 100% the correct play to do. VE handled the situation well and anyone who was even half reading the thread should have realized that VE was more likely to be town than scum in that situation.

On June 22 2012 09:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
STOP TALKING ABOUT MILLER CLAIMS

Now, Marv, my accusation was that you were being defensive when I wasn't attacking you. That's the accusation. I accused you of being overly defensive. What part about that is 'misrepresenting' what happened in that game?

On June 22 2012 09:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Anyways look what I found guys!




This was his defense in LV, the Zim themed large we were just in. Marv DOMINATED that game as scum, and look at what his first act of the game was (upon replacing in)! It was using his "meta" as a personalized defense against my accusations. Look at his defense this game! Oddly enough, it's a personalized "meta" defense again!

Marv, your response?

On June 22 2012 07:34 marvellosity wrote:
here's a clue

count how many times anyone said i said or even hinted at anything scummy in LV
see the pressure i was under at the start in magic at the start for wanting to shoot NT off the bat
compare to current situation

profit

On June 22 2012 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:

Probulous, what did you see when you went back and read Magic? When I went back, all I saw was a completely different opening strategy. I mean, he could just be doing a fast-expand or something, but it's looking kinda cheesy to me. :/

On June 22 2012 09:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Marv, I find myself to be terribly entertaining, so you're going to have to surround that statement with some sort of context if you want me to understand what you mean.

Now, my argument isn't about you defending yourself for the same reason. My argument is that you're defending yourself in the same fashion...using meta. You're encouraging everyone to leave the thread and go read other games. Why?

On June 22 2012 09:46 Zephirdd wrote:


This would be true, when a miller could actually be mixed with a role(ie. miller vig, miller medic or stuff). Here, a Miller is a confirmed non-blue.

A confirmed non-blue reduces the number of targets for scum. A miller claim is scummy in itself, and it reduces the number of potential targets for the scum to snipe. I don't want to see blues dead and have to deal with millers.

If a scum is pro-town, then that scum is substantially going against his wincon. Seriously, I'm yet to see a scum that actually contributes positively to town.

Late-claiming millers will be analyzed and lynched if the players decide on a majority. Don't spill bullshit, you can't simply policy lynch someone when there are drawbacks for early miller claims.

As I see now, it's either claim miller now - have blues be more vulnerable - and be "immune" to cops, or claim miller later IF and ONLY IF you are investigated by a cop, and we can use the information at that time, just like it would be done in any other setup with unreliable cops(with framers, sanity or other stuff).

I'd prefer millers to stay shut and protect our blues.

On June 22 2012 09:46 Probulous wrote:
@Marv, do you think VE is scum?

On June 22 2012 09:47 VisceraEyes wrote:


I "pretend" that I went and didn't find anything? I went and looked and I said EXACTLY what I found. I don't care about you wanting to shoot NT, nothing similar has happened this game to compare it to. When I went back, I found what I was looking for - you acting like a townie. You haven't done that this game. When I went and looked at your scum game, I found something there too - you defending yourself needlessly with meta. You HAVE done that this game. These aren't misrepresentations, they're observations I'm making. If you don't like it, STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO GO READ YOUR PREVIOUS GAMES.

On June 22 2012 09:52 Zephirdd wrote:


Or maybe you could enlighten me why am I wrong, why is it bad that I want to protect possible blues, when the setup is specifically designed to give scum stronger powers when town has stronger powers.