• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:32
CEST 17:32
KST 00:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments0[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch0Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues29
StarCraft 2
General
#1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion ASL20 General Discussion ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D Soulkey on ASL S20 NaDa's Body
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro16 Group C BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Borderlands 3 Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
The Personality of a Spender…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2015 users

Newbie Mini Mafia XVIII - Page 33

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 37 Next All
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:09 GMT
#641
Yeah jiexian did indeed do a decent Jon of posting just the right amount. Will there be post game analysis by the hosts?
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
July 03 2012 00:11 GMT
#642
GG you guys! I'll be back in a bit to offer my thoughts on the game.
Bio - Breaking it down
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:15 GMT
#643
Esspen's last post seemed like a big "screw you guys" cus everyone said he posted poorly. I'm wondering if we were too harsh considering this is a newbie game.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#644
On July 03 2012 09:15 BassInSpace wrote:
Esspen's last post seemed like a big "screw you guys" cus everyone said he posted poorly. I'm wondering if we were too harsh considering this is a newbie game.


No, you were not. Actually you weren't harsh at all. Part of the game is defending yourself when under (possibly heavy) attack. That's just how things work.

And Vivax's claim was, let's say... not good.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
July 03 2012 00:18 GMT
#645
Oh, uh, as a side note. Esspen did not vote. This coupled with his lack of any defense whatsoever is troubling. I will discuss with Kitaman27 what to do about this situation.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:21 GMT
#646
Doesn't he simply get mafia banned for not voting?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 03 2012 00:35 GMT
#647
Good game, gents, however I think this will be my sole TL Mafia game. It was such an exercise in frustration and was ruined by 2 people's...I don't want to say terribleness, but maybe just lack of dedication/preperation/knowledge that 100% cost us the game.

As an aside, it is nice to know that in my personal notes, I had the mafia picked, although with a Esspen/JieXian tie for the third spot. Its just unfortunate that because of Esspen giving up, no one would have ever voted for them over him, so the game was basically lost anyways.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 03 2012 00:35 GMT
#648
On July 03 2012 09:04 Vivax wrote:
Blazing, I get a call out for getting the mafia first in the obs qt !


Congrats! For your accomplishments, you have won a childrens sheriff costume!

[image loading]
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
July 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#649
I think I will master fake roleclaims to make them a permanent part of my strategy.

+ Show Spoiler +


On a side note, people don't seem to treat this like a newbie game.

And more posts in mafia qt than here, Blazinghand even posted a postcount there.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#650
Lol. Bio was so obvious. I don't see why you guys didn't vote him.

Especially that post Hope1 and I highlighted.
☺
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#651
Thanks for playing everyone!

Many thanks to Blazinghand for doing all the hard hosting work, while I was busy taking bets against him during his showmatch <3


Role List:

Vanilla Townie
Miltonkram
Vivax
dNa
BassInSpace
Keirathi
Hopeless1der
NrGmonk

Vigilante
Release

Medic
Esspen

Rolecop
JieXian

Godfather
JingleHell

Goon
BioSC

Actions:


Night one:
Mafia shoots Release
JieXian checks Vivax
Esspen protects Vivax

Night two:
Mafia shoots Miltonkram
JieXian checks BassInSpace
Esspen Protects BassInSpace

Postgame thoughts to come.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 00:46:05
July 03 2012 00:45 GMT
#652
I honestly felt like I played the best I could have for my first game. Was a bit inactive first day due to not being familiar with this game and actually being busy. Then, I was misled not by maifa, but by scummy behavior by town, Vivax/Esspen. Given the same game, with the experience I have now, I probably would have made the same calls I did in this game, expect probably contribute more the first few days.

On the 2nd day, I would have voted for Vivax over Jingle again, because of Vivax's fail at claiming dt.

I had dna and bass pegged down as townies, and Jingle and Esspen as mafia with Jiexian as the most probable choice of 3rd mafia member. Esspen really messed everything up, having the most scumming behavior and drawing suspicion away from BioSC2, who I had suspected before I saw Esspen accused him. Not only did Esspen show extremely bad play/scumming behavior, he just gave up on the last day, sealing our fate and wasting an entire day for all of us.

Really depressing how one player can ruin an entire game. And really depressing for me in general, as I think there was no way I could have done anything substantial given my experience to affect the outcome of this game. =/
Moderator
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:48 GMT
#653
wow. IF i had posted my suspicions of Bio right before i died...
☺
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:49 GMT
#654
I love how the mafia actually thought i was agreeing with bio. Fuck my schedule...
☺
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2012 00:49 GMT
#655
It's a learning experience Monk. One of the finer skills (extremely, EXTREMELY hard to get a grip on) is distinguishing bad townies from scum.

You played pretty decently I thought.

Mafia were well organised and worked very well as a team, not needing much input from me. From pretty early on I couldn't see anything other than a mafia victory.

BassInSpace figured it all out too late (but i mean, props to him figuring it out), getting a town-read on another townie and realising most, if not all, the scum were on Esspen. With a bit of help he could have averted the lynch. The margins are always a bit smaller than they first appear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#656


And Vivax, remember. As town, it's perception and persuasion, not knowledge, that matter. I (barely) took that because I was able to make your side of it look scummy, even though you were pushing the right target for the wrong reason.

Like I said, you did a fair job on reads and analysis, but you started working from that angle a little late. If you'd posted like you did right before you got lynched through that whole day, this would be heading for a townie victory right now, and we'd both be in the Obs QT, from a Jingle lynch, Vivax NK.

GG all. Monk, you had me nervous a couple times. You were one of my biggest fears, since you know me a little.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:54 GMT
#657
This is so annoying. Bio should have died
☺
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 03 2012 00:57 GMT
#658
Also, I really am curious how the rest of the game would have played out had we actually no-lynched.

Maybe people still think its a silly plan, but I *know* it works. Certainly not every time, but obviously lynching doesn't work every time either

It probably still would have been too easy for mafia to get Esspen bandwagoned though. I'm just curious who would have died if we delayed and it that death could have helped town.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:59 GMT
#659
Out of curiosity, it seems everyone in obs had esspen pegged as town. Is this true?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 00:59 GMT
#660
It might be able to work, but frankly, the arguments against it are entirely too convincing in a situation like that when you have an easy bandwagon target to pound on as scum.
Prev 1 31 32 33 34 35 37 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 18h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mcanning 116
SpeCial 86
ProTech79
JuggernautJason36
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 37118
Bisu 2815
Horang2 2799
EffOrt 1100
Mini 514
ZerO 449
Hyuk 443
Light 396
actioN 243
Soulkey 171
[ Show more ]
Soma 155
hero 132
Snow 127
Rush 93
ggaemo 90
Hyun 68
Mind 51
sorry 42
Free 34
Aegong 30
JYJ27
ToSsGirL 26
Yoon 24
PianO 23
Terrorterran 16
scan(afreeca) 14
Sexy 13
SilentControl 8
HiyA 8
IntoTheRainbow 7
Dota 2
Gorgc6909
qojqva3400
Dendi1061
Fuzer 229
XcaliburYe188
League of Legends
Trikslyr39
Counter-Strike
zeus768
hiko562
ScreaM211
markeloff197
oskar141
edward55
Other Games
tarik_tv19214
gofns18154
B2W.Neo988
Lowko433
Hui .425
Mlord406
FrodaN255
RotterdaM223
byalli216
XaKoH 116
ArmadaUGS103
QueenE77
NeuroSwarm40
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 15
• LUISG 15
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• Michael_bg 5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4652
• TFBlade250
Other Games
• WagamamaTV330
• Shiphtur213
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
18h 28m
Zoun vs Classic
Map Test Tournament
19h 28m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 11h
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 16h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Reynor vs Cure
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Online Event
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.