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BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:09 GMT
#641
Yeah jiexian did indeed do a decent Jon of posting just the right amount. Will there be post game analysis by the hosts?
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
July 03 2012 00:11 GMT
#642
GG you guys! I'll be back in a bit to offer my thoughts on the game.
Bio - Breaking it down
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:15 GMT
#643
Esspen's last post seemed like a big "screw you guys" cus everyone said he posted poorly. I'm wondering if we were too harsh considering this is a newbie game.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2012 00:16 GMT
#644
On July 03 2012 09:15 BassInSpace wrote:
Esspen's last post seemed like a big "screw you guys" cus everyone said he posted poorly. I'm wondering if we were too harsh considering this is a newbie game.


No, you were not. Actually you weren't harsh at all. Part of the game is defending yourself when under (possibly heavy) attack. That's just how things work.

And Vivax's claim was, let's say... not good.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
July 03 2012 00:18 GMT
#645
Oh, uh, as a side note. Esspen did not vote. This coupled with his lack of any defense whatsoever is troubling. I will discuss with Kitaman27 what to do about this situation.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:21 GMT
#646
Doesn't he simply get mafia banned for not voting?
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 03 2012 00:35 GMT
#647
Good game, gents, however I think this will be my sole TL Mafia game. It was such an exercise in frustration and was ruined by 2 people's...I don't want to say terribleness, but maybe just lack of dedication/preperation/knowledge that 100% cost us the game.

As an aside, it is nice to know that in my personal notes, I had the mafia picked, although with a Esspen/JieXian tie for the third spot. Its just unfortunate that because of Esspen giving up, no one would have ever voted for them over him, so the game was basically lost anyways.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 03 2012 00:35 GMT
#648
On July 03 2012 09:04 Vivax wrote:
Blazing, I get a call out for getting the mafia first in the obs qt !


Congrats! For your accomplishments, you have won a childrens sheriff costume!

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I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22338 Posts
July 03 2012 00:42 GMT
#649
I think I will master fake roleclaims to make them a permanent part of my strategy.

+ Show Spoiler +


On a side note, people don't seem to treat this like a newbie game.

And more posts in mafia qt than here, Blazinghand even posted a postcount there.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#650
Lol. Bio was so obvious. I don't see why you guys didn't vote him.

Especially that post Hope1 and I highlighted.
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kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#651
Thanks for playing everyone!

Many thanks to Blazinghand for doing all the hard hosting work, while I was busy taking bets against him during his showmatch <3


Role List:

Vanilla Townie
Miltonkram
Vivax
dNa
BassInSpace
Keirathi
Hopeless1der
NrGmonk

Vigilante
Release

Medic
Esspen

Rolecop
JieXian

Godfather
JingleHell

Goon
BioSC

Actions:


Night one:
Mafia shoots Release
JieXian checks Vivax
Esspen protects Vivax

Night two:
Mafia shoots Miltonkram
JieXian checks BassInSpace
Esspen Protects BassInSpace

Postgame thoughts to come.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-03 00:46:05
July 03 2012 00:45 GMT
#652
I honestly felt like I played the best I could have for my first game. Was a bit inactive first day due to not being familiar with this game and actually being busy. Then, I was misled not by maifa, but by scummy behavior by town, Vivax/Esspen. Given the same game, with the experience I have now, I probably would have made the same calls I did in this game, expect probably contribute more the first few days.

On the 2nd day, I would have voted for Vivax over Jingle again, because of Vivax's fail at claiming dt.

I had dna and bass pegged down as townies, and Jingle and Esspen as mafia with Jiexian as the most probable choice of 3rd mafia member. Esspen really messed everything up, having the most scumming behavior and drawing suspicion away from BioSC2, who I had suspected before I saw Esspen accused him. Not only did Esspen show extremely bad play/scumming behavior, he just gave up on the last day, sealing our fate and wasting an entire day for all of us.

Really depressing how one player can ruin an entire game. And really depressing for me in general, as I think there was no way I could have done anything substantial given my experience to affect the outcome of this game. =/
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:48 GMT
#653
wow. IF i had posted my suspicions of Bio right before i died...
☺
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:49 GMT
#654
I love how the mafia actually thought i was agreeing with bio. Fuck my schedule...
☺
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 03 2012 00:49 GMT
#655
It's a learning experience Monk. One of the finer skills (extremely, EXTREMELY hard to get a grip on) is distinguishing bad townies from scum.

You played pretty decently I thought.

Mafia were well organised and worked very well as a team, not needing much input from me. From pretty early on I couldn't see anything other than a mafia victory.

BassInSpace figured it all out too late (but i mean, props to him figuring it out), getting a town-read on another townie and realising most, if not all, the scum were on Esspen. With a bit of help he could have averted the lynch. The margins are always a bit smaller than they first appear.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 00:52 GMT
#656


And Vivax, remember. As town, it's perception and persuasion, not knowledge, that matter. I (barely) took that because I was able to make your side of it look scummy, even though you were pushing the right target for the wrong reason.

Like I said, you did a fair job on reads and analysis, but you started working from that angle a little late. If you'd posted like you did right before you got lynched through that whole day, this would be heading for a townie victory right now, and we'd both be in the Obs QT, from a Jingle lynch, Vivax NK.

GG all. Monk, you had me nervous a couple times. You were one of my biggest fears, since you know me a little.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
July 03 2012 00:54 GMT
#657
This is so annoying. Bio should have died
☺
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 03 2012 00:57 GMT
#658
Also, I really am curious how the rest of the game would have played out had we actually no-lynched.

Maybe people still think its a silly plan, but I *know* it works. Certainly not every time, but obviously lynching doesn't work every time either

It probably still would have been too easy for mafia to get Esspen bandwagoned though. I'm just curious who would have died if we delayed and it that death could have helped town.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
BassInSpace
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia165 Posts
July 03 2012 00:59 GMT
#659
Out of curiosity, it seems everyone in obs had esspen pegged as town. Is this true?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 03 2012 00:59 GMT
#660
It might be able to work, but frankly, the arguments against it are entirely too convincing in a situation like that when you have an easy bandwagon target to pound on as scum.
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