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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 09 2012 22:27 GMT
#1701
Since all the kewl kids are doing it.

##vote Twelve
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 09 2012 22:30 GMT
#1702
By the way, Acro, I'm not giving you confirmed town status in my book. FYI. <3
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 10 2012 03:46 GMT
#1703
On July 09 2012 05:29 Twelve wrote:
Well I really dont want to vote you anymore since Hyaach seems to be telling the truth. Someone else for sure, I just havent really decided yet.

Why did you say this and then never switch your vote? Also, if you believed Hyaach why didn't you just immediately vote for Katina. I've suspected 12 for a long time so
##Vote: Twleve
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18280 Posts
July 10 2012 07:57 GMT
#1704
On July 10 2012 07:30 ghost_403 wrote:
By the way, Acro, I'm not giving you confirmed town status in my book. FYI. <3

I guess that's just the way things work. I'd send you my role pm, but it's against the rules

Loan me a gun and I'll shoot scum!
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 10 2012 08:25 GMT
#1705
On July 10 2012 02:38 BroodKingEXE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:23 Mandalor wrote:
For the next day I would like town to vote on another guy from mattchew's list. Could be me, casualman, Twelve, Bill Murray or drwiggl3s.
Tbh, drwiggl3s and myself would probably be the best options. There's different people defending both of us so we can get reads on these no matter if the lynched guy flips red or green. Hopefully not blue lol.
I think mattchew's analysis is hilariously bad. I just don't know if he's doing that on purpose or not. The way the game is played right now, town puts a lot of faith in him and ET so we should try to find out early if mattchew's and ET's analysis is any good in this game.


@Mandalor: To what degree was this post sarcastic?


I wanted to see if someone bites. Noone did except Wiggl3s :/
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 10 2012 08:25 GMT
#1706
Oh yeah
##Vote: Twelve
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18280 Posts
July 10 2012 13:56 GMT
#1707
On July 10 2012 17:25 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2012 02:38 BroodKingEXE wrote:
On July 02 2012 17:23 Mandalor wrote:
For the next day I would like town to vote on another guy from mattchew's list. Could be me, casualman, Twelve, Bill Murray or drwiggl3s.
Tbh, drwiggl3s and myself would probably be the best options. There's different people defending both of us so we can get reads on these no matter if the lynched guy flips red or green. Hopefully not blue lol.
I think mattchew's analysis is hilariously bad. I just don't know if he's doing that on purpose or not. The way the game is played right now, town puts a lot of faith in him and ET so we should try to find out early if mattchew's and ET's analysis is any good in this game.


@Mandalor: To what degree was this post sarcastic?


I wanted to see if someone bites. Noone did except Wiggl3s :/

Okay, I'll bite now. What were you trying to achieve with that post? You say you were trying to get people to "bite", but it is full of contradictions, nonsense and martyring. What was the follow-up you planned if someone "bit"?

Your response to wiggl3s is to say that Mattchew is just plain bad and you say you want to try to stop town from sheeping Mattchew. However, my understanding of the Foxtrotter lynch was that it was led by Marvelosity, not Mattchew. All Mattchew did was make a list and add Foxtrotter to it. Mattchew only really gained any traction later.

So why were you so scared of Mattchew?

+ Show Spoiler [wiggl3s' and Mandalor's co…] +

On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?



On July 02 2012 17:53 Mandalor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 17:41 drwiggl3s wrote:
Also (sorry for some spam here) @ Mandalor. You say we should lynch someone listed in Mattchew's analysis. Yet in the same post you say his analysis is "hilariously bad". I propose that his list is all town.

See how it excludes BKexe for example?


I agree. However, he's orchestrating town's play right now. He gave literally no reason for the Foxtrotter lynch, yet 9 people jump on the boat and the guy is lynched. I don't think the voters are all mafia. I'd be surprised if there's more than two mafia voting for foxtrotter.
Sooo, obviously he holds a lot of weight. I guess he played well in the last mafia games.

Best possible scenario is town ignores what he says and we actually kill a red. But I don't think that's going to happen. Both of us just don't hold a lot of weight. You're either a smurf or this really is your first game. And the last mafia game I played is so long ago, I don't think I've played with anyone in this before.


ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 10 2012 14:08 GMT
#1708
Seems like there is at least for the next target no need for much further discussion.

##vote: Twelve
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#1709
ebwop: was a pleasant surprise to come back reading the thread with finally nobody tunneling me to world's end.

As we off Twelve today (and really should hit red with it) we are looking at 8-2 after the nighthit, giving us plenty of time to find the last two. I would suspect them within the following people:
grush, casualman, Maju (aka the trolls/lurkers)

I have some slightly less suspicions on:
Mandalor, Acro and VE but these depend heavily on the fact that especially acro and VE are still alive.

More or less confirmed town are: ghost, hyaach, me, BKE
So conclusively said NSH's list is a pretty good thing to follow through
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 10 2012 16:14 GMT
#1710
##Vote: Twelve
Check my filter for reasoning.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 10 2012 17:13 GMT
#1711
@Mandalor: What Im not getting is if this is a baiting post why does th rest of your posts on Matchew relflect a wishy-washiness? I'm not understanding what made you want to lynch him one minute and call him townie the next.
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 10 2012 17:28 GMT
#1712
Well since its decided, what information will town be gaining when i flip green?
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 10 2012 17:43 GMT
#1713
EBWOP:
I'm feeling pretty discouraged and almost didn't bother making this post but I still want to win. Please ask yourself if there is a better vote for today. Clearly a majority has a scummy read on me, but what kind of information will you actually gain if(when) i flip green. Most of the people pushing for me are town in my notes so I'm not really sure what town is gonna gain once my lights go out. Anyways, ill be around till lynch time, but if there isnt much additional development from anyone else, I won't have much else to say.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 10 2012 19:39 GMT
#1714
##Vote: Twelve

I literally thought I was the first to do it. :/ Sorry guys.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22301 Posts
July 10 2012 19:59 GMT
#1715
You tunneled a town throughout the game, you've been defended by the mafia roleblocker before the check got revealed. The DT pretty much sealed your guilt with his checks, the connections point to you.

I doubt we're dealing with a crazy version where hyaach bussed katina to save BKE and get you killed.
Or a version where BKE is a second godfather and katina just defended you to gain cred.

To be fair however, if hyaach didn't say he was town, I'd still lynch BKE just based off his play.
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 10 2012 20:07 GMT
#1716
On July 11 2012 04:59 Vivax wrote:
You tunneled a town throughout the game, you've been defended by the mafia roleblocker before the check got revealed. The DT pretty much sealed your guilt with his checks, the connections point to you.

I doubt we're dealing with a crazy version where hyaach bussed katina to save BKE and get you killed.
Or a version where BKE is a second godfather and katina just defended you to gain cred.

To be fair however, if hyaach didn't say he was town, I'd still lynch BKE just based off his play.


So when I flip town you will begin to strongly consider the other 2 options?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22301 Posts
July 10 2012 20:14 GMT
#1717
I kinda don't believe in the version with a scum hyaach cause it's just crazy to bus the roleblocker when he isn't in danger.

If you flip green we will know that katina defended you for some reason, and that the people who voteswitched to ET with me aren't scum (including me). Cause with you and ET lynched, we would have lost 2 townies instead of just ET, and scum wouldn't want such a thing.

So your flip will give us enough information, don't worry. But I still think it won't be green.

Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 10 2012 20:16 GMT
#1718
Yea, im pretty sure im done for. I mean for the sake of wanting town to win i have to ask people to switch to Grush with me, but I don't have a lot of hope for that. Regardless, I want town to win, so I need EVERYONE thinking about the green flip and what it will mean going forward. Scouts honor
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18280 Posts
July 10 2012 21:22 GMT
#1719
On July 11 2012 02:43 Twelve wrote:
EBWOP:
I'm feeling pretty discouraged and almost didn't bother making this post but I still want to win. Please ask yourself if there is a better vote for today. Clearly a majority has a scummy read on me, but what kind of information will you actually gain if(when) i flip green. Most of the people pushing for me are town in my notes so I'm not really sure what town is gonna gain once my lights go out. Anyways, ill be around till lynch time, but if there isnt much additional development from anyone else, I won't have much else to say.


Well, if you're really town, which I really doubt, you could update your list of reads. If you're going to flip scum, don't bother as I am not going to waste time wifom'ing it up about why you marked someone scum or town.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 10 2012 21:33 GMT
#1720
@Kurumi: What are your reads now? Since your posting got readable I haven't seen any effort to make an accusation besides me and casual (who you now think is innocent). Also, WTH did you crumb?, I doubt that there are anymore blues, which leads me to believe you lied about that.
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