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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 22:09 GMT
#881
I'm saying his interpretation of that particular set of events is quite kooky.

And it's a more sensible assumption that it's town with weird theories than scum who know your alignment.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 02 2012 22:56 GMT
#882
I just honestly think im gonna get killed tonight because of how hard I was hounding BKE, who i still think is scum. NoSmurfsHere defends BKE multiple times, and ultimately is the one who started the foxtrotter bandwagon. His post seems EXTREMLY suspicious given what we know to be true now.

On July 02 2012 09:08 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Alright, here's the thing:

If mK comes back to vote he's 100% scum. I'm banking on him getting modkilled to even consider this a decent idea. Probably a stupid idea, but w/e. I don't like the BKE lynch and the only reasonable alternative now is foxtrotter.

I say that (particularly if fox flips town) we need to get a vig to shoot mK.

##unvote
##vote Foxtrotter


Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 02 2012 22:57 GMT
#883
Supposing mK had returned, a vig shooting him in the night would be another huge victory for mafia
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 02 2012 22:58 GMT
#884
I'm like 90% sure that ET is scum, but I can't prove the last 10% to myself. Looking back at his filter, he's carefully avoided giving any real reads. His read on BKE sticks out like a sore thumb, where he waffles back and forth, saying stuff like "his opening post was strange, but it's not nearly as conclusive as other opening scum posts have been in the past". His stance on the MK lynch is similarly bad. He goes from "Just, really fn obvious scum" to "Something feels a bit fishy" to the final quote, where he says he doesn't like the lynch because of the other people voting for it.

But, I'm still trying to work through his pushing of the Foxtrotter lynch. They were both town, so what does that mean? Did he really abandon his scum read just to blend in? Is that the secret to the chaos he pushed in thread? Why wouldn't he simply stick to his guns and push the townie who was so close to being lynched?

I've got most of my case against ET written, but I'm still trying to reconcile that last little bit.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:16 GMT
#885
What's with people thinking they're important enough to be shot by mafia? :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 02 2012 23:23 GMT
#886
I'm not scared of being shot by mafia...so unafraid that I may just neglect to post my final reads before dawn O.O
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#887
Yeah, how about you don't neglect to, eh? ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 02 2012 23:24 GMT
#888
The only thing that scares me is...

Can't get anyone to talk to me before Day/Night posts.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:25 GMT
#889
yeah, not touching that one until next cycle ghost
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 02 2012 23:28 GMT
#890
The Captain: Who is this flower child and what has he done with my lion hearted friend marvellosity?

Quote from How I Met Your Mother, 8pm Eastern, only on CBS.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:31 GMT
#891
The one thing I would say is that he could swap lynch targets as either alignment there.

You ask why not stick to his guns. Well, why not change? shruggles.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 02 2012 23:40 GMT
#892
On July 03 2012 07:56 Twelve wrote:
I just honestly think im gonna get killed tonight because of how hard I was hounding BKE, who i still think is scum. NoSmurfsHere defends BKE multiple times, and ultimately is the one who started the foxtrotter bandwagon. His post seems EXTREMLY suspicious given what we know to be true now.

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 09:08 NoSmurfHere wrote:
Alright, here's the thing:

If mK comes back to vote he's 100% scum. I'm banking on him getting modkilled to even consider this a decent idea. Probably a stupid idea, but w/e. I don't like the BKE lynch and the only reasonable alternative now is foxtrotter.

I say that (particularly if fox flips town) we need to get a vig to shoot mK.

##unvote
##vote Foxtrotter




Bright side: We will have a direction and know who to lynch when day comes.

Whoever dies tonight, we need to go back and look through their filter.
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 23:42 GMT
#893
On July 03 2012 03:13 s0Lstice wrote:
Drwiggl3s, I want to know one thing.
On July 02 2012 18:19 drwiggl3s wrote:
That's fine. Come up with a better vote then Mattchew, and I'd love to hear it. Anything that involves voting for a lurker, a noob, a troll, or whatever, is not one I'm interested when we can vote for someone who absolutely loves to spur confusion, and band wagoning, as well as soft defending someone I believe is scum (bkexe).
If we lynch Mattchew, it will give us the most possible information that a lynch can give us.
That's the point I'm making here.

I want to know why you are pushing Mattchew now. You say BKE is scum. BKE had 7 votes on him at his peak on day 1. Why in the hell aren't you pushing that case, when there is such obvious support for it?

...okay I lied, more questions. What is this?
On July 02 2012 17:47 drwiggl3s wrote:
If you want the most information out of a lynch. Then when the sun rises tomorrow - we kill Mattchew.

If he's scum, everyone on that list is town. And we have 5 (6th person would have been foxtrott) people who can be labelled confirm town for the rest of the game.


On July 02 2012 18:15 drwiggl3s wrote:
Whether or not Mattchew is scum is up for interpretation. But one thing that isn't, is that if we lynch him, and he turns as scum, then that will net us the most information. More then any other lynch that could be made right now.


On July 02 2012 18:20 drwiggl3s wrote:
I believe Mattchew is scum. I thought that was clear from my earlier posts.

Yea no it's not clear. I frankly have no idea if you think he's scum or if you want to lynch for information. If we trust your last line, that means you have 2 scum reads right now (Mattchew and BKE). Information from the flip shouldn't even be a factor. You push your scum reads based on their scummyness, period. You are not doing this. Why?



I think Mattchew and BKE are both scum. Why? Because anytime someone has been read as posting something even slightly scummy (or so generically scummy) Mattchew is one of the first to jump on them, and spur conflict. Except when people were bandwagonning onto BKE (for good reason I add), he always soft defended him, while pointing fingers elsewhere.

That is why I think they are both scum. And since Mattchew has some interesting people defending him, has a list with 2 confirmed town on it, and already has ties to BKE, if we killed him it would give us alot of usable information if he flipped scum.

On July 03 2012 06:49 Mandalor wrote:
The more wiggles posted, the more weird his posts became. To a point where he made really odd mistakes (not scummy at all -> 100% scummy)
I don't know, I hold onto my opinion that he's town for now. I know I put a lot more thoughts in my posts when I was mafia.


I apologize if my posts were unclear. I said "not scummy at all" in the sense that his posts were innocent, but could be misconstrued as a "obvious scum post" (said sorry for being away, voted for mkmkmk without some detailed explenation, although he did give some explanation.. more then many other people who voted for mkmkmk).
hi
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 23:47 GMT
#894
Also when i said "whether or not mattchew is scum is up for interpretation"..
I just meant that if you don't agree he's scum (I thought it was clear that I already had him pinned as scum at this point), you can still agree that if we lynch him it would give us valuable information on the people defending him, and BKExe (who he soft defended). Basically I'm saying that lynching Mattchew would be more valuable then lynching a random lurker and risk killing a slightly inactive blue, or town.
hi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:49 GMT
#895
Fortunately by day 2 we're usually past lynching random lurkers ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 02 2012 23:51 GMT
#896
"quick everyone, let's ignore ghost even though he only pops in, makes like three posts, and then leaves"

You guys make me sad.

DrWiggles, what do you think about ET?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
drwiggl3s
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada167 Posts
July 02 2012 23:53 GMT
#897
Hard to read ET. I think I'm making some pretty decent arguments here, and he said he simply see's things differently then me. Besides that I haven't really filtered him or anything.

@marvellosity, thank you for another insightful and useful post!
hi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 02 2012 23:54 GMT
#898
You'll find at some point, wiggles, that antagonising me isn't a great idea
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 02 2012 23:54 GMT
#899
@drWiggles: That's a solid 'meh' response.

I'd ask Katina what she thinks, but we all know she's already gone.

Also, Happy Birthday!

jogging, brb.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
July 02 2012 23:57 GMT
#900
Hi ghost! Sorry I was ignoring you! I couldn't help but notice that your only action during D1 was to unrepentantly take NO responsibility for the D1 lynch! What fun!! And now that you're gracing us with an hour of your time, not only are you not keeping your end of your promise, you're trying to make others feel guilty for not listening when you!

So, now that I have your attention: tell me why we shouldn't lynch you tomorrow. Make it good too, because you tried to get town to lynch me on policy as your first action in the game. X(
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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