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On June 13 2012 20:06 Forumite wrote: Updated player list. Nisani, interested in playing? Yes. | ||
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I would like to join the Chezinu house but I do not want to tell everyone my SUPER SECRET ROLE that is VERY IMPORTANT. So I would like to ally with you. How does that sound? | ||
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On June 17 2012 04:47 talismania wrote: KharadBanar and Nisani206 Why did you ally with HiroPro? Because I prefer to make friends, not enemies. | ||
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My win condition is to kill anti-town people. If House Chezinu can help me with that then I want to be friends with them. It's not like I'm permanently bound to them. If HiroPro does something stupid then I'll obviously break ties with him. | ||
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On June 17 2012 05:09 talismania wrote: Not enough. What made you think that House Chezinu could help you do that? HiroPro hadn't said anything detailed at all about the House (and still hasn't) and if you really have the same win condition as me, how you could come to the conlusion that randomly allying with a house would help you eliminate anti-town players? My vague "alliance" with them can do no harm. All I did was post in the thread saying that I would like to ally with them. That's it. I am not saying that House Chezinu is 100% town, and I am not saying that I think they will help town. But if they do, I want in. | ||
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On June 17 2012 05:09 FourFace wrote: We policy lynch everyone who said his win condition is to eliminate all anti-town players and those who will continue to say it or ask about win condition. And remember to drink some alcoholic beverage every time you read House what's its name. Why? | ||
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Does anyone else agree with me? | ||
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On June 17 2012 14:06 EchelonTee wrote: Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys? Chezinu's filter from Merc Mini 2 Hiro's tone/playstyle is very similar to Chezinu's in Merc Mini 2. In that game Chezinu claimed to be a "bank" who provided real-time item transactions. He really did have that ability, but he was also a bulletproof serial killer... | ||
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Are there any scenarios in which Town's interests and the House Chezinu's interests would go against each other? Can you give me an example of this (if it is possible)? | ||
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However I am interested in seeing if anyone actually applied. | ||
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If you are the "king" then you should claim that you are, as well as the powers you have. I also don't like the case on Maju | ||
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xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc | ||
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On June 18 2012 09:49 xsksc wrote: Point number 1 of my post should read fishy and not fish, lol. In response to Nisanis vote - Maybe it's the popular opinion because allying with a completely unknown faction is a pretty bad idea for town? As for my posts being "easy to make", I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. I've voiced my opinnion and encouraged discussion when the thread was dead. I suggest you have a quick read of your own filter, and maybe that will stop you from accusing others of shit contribution. Copy and paste attacks, that's pretty much it. Your easy-to-make argument is completely nonsensical, not to mention hypocritical. Yes indeed, contributing without contributing seems to be a common theme this game. Not my fault. | ||
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He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy. | ||
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There is Hyaach's analysis on me, which is pretty bad. On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote: Nisani201. People find it wierd to ally so fast with a house without any information from it? Only people that wants friends are scum/third parties. Towns can credit themselves cred by scum hunting. Scum/third parties are lazy and lack this advantage. Alright, I agree that I didn't explain myself very well in that post and it looks pretty bad, but I'll try to explain it now. My main understanding of the "house chezinu" mainly came from Merc Mini 2 where I played with Chezinu, and he was acting very similar to Hiro's play in this game. In that game Chezinu was a bulletproof SK and I figured that it was very likely Hiro had a lot of power. I didn't want to get stuck in some stupid feud with a third party when I could have been scumhunting. Furthermore, I didn't really see any downside to allying with the House... and no one has pointed one out; people have been saying that this kind of affiliation with it is scummy but I don't really see why that is. On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote: Why discredit the existence of a 3rd party be it a group or 1 single individual? This is a crazy game and it has crazy roles... I know that I have a crazy role, not sure about others but my experience with crazy games suggests that most people are going to have crazy roles as well. Why the hell did you include this in your analysis? Did you run out of posts that you thought were actually scummy? This entire case is forced, and this part of it proves it to me. On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote: Why are you so interested in the King and the specific set up? Do they have anything to do with your win-con? Once again more blatant and pointless speculation. A lot of people are talking about the king. Because 2 people (and probably more) already have information on it it seems like it's a very important mechanic in this game. Information is especially important in a game like this where we have so little information about the setup and anything can happen. On June 18 2012 16:23 Hyaach wrote: With 0 KP last night and KB who is buddy-buddying you is in the spotlight. Are you afraid his death will reveal existence of your 3rd party set up? What the hell is this? I ask a question to the host and now you're spinning it and making up bullshit. There are a million reasons why I could have asked this question, and you pull one out of the hat to match the opinion of Hiro and a few others that I am 3P. | ||
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I still think that xsksc should be lynched. Can people please post their thoughts on him? For reference, here is my case on him. | ||
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I have a crazy role, not alignment. I do have an opportunity for an "extra win" and an "extra loss," but you guys don't have to worry about those because they are pro-town objectives. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:20 Drazerk wrote: You tell us now because I don't believe you for a second How about you shut up because you haven't done anything productive all day. I have no idea why talis hasn't shot you already. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:20 Nisani201 wrote: How about you shut up because you haven't done anything productive all game. I have no idea why talis hasn't shot you already. EBWOP | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:21 talismania wrote: It's ok I guess I don't expect you to claim. But what's this extra win extra loss stuff? I don't see how you can extra lose. Can you give us a hint as to your various wincons? I can't say much without revealing my role. All you need to know is that it 100% aligns with town objectives. I'm not really sure how the "extra win" and "extra loss" works either, but I'm guessing that I can sort of get a double-win, or not lose nor win in the same game depending on the combination. | ||
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So is yours. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:30 Drazerk wrote: Hi everyone I contain the secret to everyone's win condition. To obtain every player must type in #Fistbump in the thread oh god not this again | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:32 talismania wrote: Nisani, what do you know about the king and monarchist activist? I don't know anything more than what was posted my you and Acrofales. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:39 Drazerk wrote: You know I can think of a better way to find this information out... ![]() shut up | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:44 talismania wrote: Because I want to know? And I have a gun? Do you know of any other factions? If your wincon is town-aligned, then maybe us in town can help you out. Did your pm contain any info on the king and MA at all? No I don't know about any other factions, and my role PM didn't have any information about monarchs or monarchist activist. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:48 Drazerk wrote: Which makes you wonder... what is this mystical role? I am actually wondering the same about you. Could you really be this bad? Or are you a jester? | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:53 KharadBanar wrote: EBWOP: Let's make it a bit more clear. ##Dayvig-vote: DropBear can you elaborate on this? Is Dropbear dying? | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:11 talismania wrote: Nisani what do you make of strongandbig? Just read through his filter. Most of his N0 posts looks like easy-to-make ones, his tunnelling of Drazerk later on looks very forced and I don't like it. | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote: You have to murder someone to not lose 201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win S+B = 201 You're wrong. Also is the last line supposed to be some sort of WBG=George W Bush-type conspiracy? | ||
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On June 19 2012 07:15 deconduo wrote: I'm 99% sure Drazerk is town, there's no way a non-town would come out like that to try and get proven. If it comes back a lie it almost certainly means talis is town. If it comes back true, we lynch talis. Were you in Aperture Mafia? I tried something similar, where I made the item that ended up killing me. While it didn't work in Aperture, it's still possible that Drazerk is making a huge gambit. I still don't trust him. | ||
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Talismania gets it, read his post. Xsksc is scum. It could be dropbear also, he's so fucking happy to find his little piece of evidence against me, dancing and posting in big bold letters. | ||
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On June 19 2012 16:52 Hyaach wrote: Regarding Dec's power. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor ( i learn that in LV) no more tin foiled hat, although not town town, they are town. I still think 201 is 3rd party from the way he fish for information in this thread. He also shows no interests in scum hunting in his play and is playing really defensive. He does not want to be in the spotlight and only pop up to ask questions without making a stance. Why not you? You were asking about the set up, so from what you can speculate, what do you think the set up should be? He then replies to talis question in fear of being shot but his reply is also lackluster. What does I don't like it mean? You suspect him enough but don't want to do anything about it? He then post here and there without posting anything. What the hell? I attempted to ally with the house chezinu thing, pushed a case on xsksc, and tried to get information that would benefit town, and you acuse me of trying to stay of the spotlight? I have no idea why anyone should bother listening to what you have to say because you're just throwing buzzwords out of your mouth at this point. | ||
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On June 19 2012 17:27 Hyaach wrote: And no you attacking my cases on you will not make me back down. If i can't convince, just read his filter yourself. I would actually encourage this. Read my filter and all you'll discover is that I've been playing perfectly town all game. | ||
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On June 20 2012 01:52 talismania wrote: so. anyone else think kb and nisani are both third party and have some sort of immunity against this possible vengeance thing? I don't have any immunity. I just think DropBear is lying. | ||
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I would like to know this too. | ||
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FourFace: you should check out of DropBear, Drazerk, and xsksc. Tell us in the morning who you checked and what you got. As for the MA ordeal, I think it's interesting that the King isn't claiming even though as far as we know, there isn't anyone gunning for the king, only the MA. The MA crowns someone every night. So what if the king doesn't know that he is king? I think that would be interesting, and I think it would balance out the whole town-has-no-KP thing. | ||
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How about this: I wont talk today unless you all agree not to lynch me? | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:38 Acrofales wrote: If you're scum, go right ahead and shut up all day. It'll make our lives incredibly easy! ![]() But wait, that would still be playing against my win-con! Are you biased towards town? | ||
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On June 21 2012 04:40 Nisani201 wrote: But wait, that would still be playing against my win-con! Are you biased towards town? Damn, I'm bad at this. I should really shut up... | ||
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On June 21 2012 05:10 Acrofales wrote: A town Nisani should be trying to prevent a mislynch. He clearly has no interest in preventing a mislynch. Maybe his extra wincon was to outlive the AMA, so he doesn't give a fuck, or maybe he's scum. Your post has inspired me to say something. I have decided I will help you guys scumhunt. Everyone who thinks I am the MA should say so now. This is important. | ||
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On June 21 2012 06:31 HiroPro wrote: Hm, Drazerk could be right on Nisani being an AMA. It would explain why he wants people to say whether or not he is MA and why he refuses to claim - he is waiting to see other people claim. This is not about finding the AMA. This is about finding scum. | ||
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This is not about finding the MA either. | ||
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ugh you don't count These people need to tell me if they think I am the MA: DropBear xsksc Drazerk Hyaach | ||
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I'm not the AMA though. | ||
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Other aspects of my thought process will be explained at the end of today and possibly post-game if you have any more questions. | ||
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On June 21 2012 12:36 HiroPro wrote: You made one post on him and then after that all you've done is say that he should be lynched..... You haven't contributed anything since that one post. Why? Because unlike you, I have to explain to people why I'm not scum. And because there are other ways to contribute to the game without writing analyses. | ||
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Tomorrow we should lynch DropBear or xsksc. | ||
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On June 21 2012 18:56 Acrofales wrote: Nisani: if your extra wincon is fulfilled, why don't you want to fullclaim? Why are you deliberately withholding information from town that can no longer hurt you? We've been starved for info on the MA/king and if you are in fact the MA, you can clarify it all, but are choosing not to (insofar as I understand the game, just to fuck with town). If you are not the MA, you can clarify your wincon, because you've already fulfilled it and we can go on from there. As is, you're withholding information on the setup from a town that desperately needs information on the setup. I wish we could pull the lynch forward and kill you right now. An interesting question. I have already fulfilled my extra win but now all I have to do is avoid my extra loss. It's ok to think that my play this game is weird-- it is, but you should come to expect weird play from this game. It is, after all, a bastard game. All of my actions this game have had a clear motive to them. I don't want to "fuck with town," but unfortunately the situation demands it. All will be made clear when I flip. Ohhh, this is so exciting! | ||
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I am the Monarchist Activist. Surprise! | ||
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On June 22 2012 04:48 talismania wrote: well he's third party which is good to know. can we please lynch into xsksc/hyaach/dropbear? who do people want out of these three? No. I am getting lynched today. I'm not giving you guys any information unless I can be sure that I am lynched. | ||
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The King decides who gets lynched. The King doesn't know that he is king. On D1 the King was Hiro. Today there is no King because I was roleblocked. So now you have plurality lynch, which is super useful when the vote is unanimous. LOL | ||
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Plurality lynch. Every day, with no King nonsense. You can get that if you lynch me. | ||
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On June 22 2012 04:57 Acrofales wrote: You know that if you're getting lynched we're already GETTING your information, right? Of course. I've thought this through, you see. | ||
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On June 22 2012 04:59 Acrofales wrote: Interesting. @Nisani: why did you make Hiro king? Were you that taken in by his chezinu deal? @Hiro: that makes you look like the second scumteam. You claim you're helping town, but you could've helped us by saying this earlier. Instead you waited until Nisani figured it was time to tell us. If the Chezinu thing was real then I figured it would be cool to give him the illusion of power. I sent in an application. | ||
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Well maybe I am, a little. | ||
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On June 22 2012 07:32 talismania wrote: Proposal: Nisani wants to be lynched, we want to lynch scum. We all vote dropbear, and nisani does what KB did and unvote votes to make sure he's the last one voting. If the game ends because dropbear is the last scum, great. If the game doesn't end, but dropbear is still scum, then we lynch nisani for possibly having an anti-town wincon (or one of the other 3p players). If the game doesn't end because dropbear is town and telling the truth, then we've still gotten rid of nisani (and nisani has gotten rid of himself). ___________ All that said I still have a sneaking suspicion the last scum xsksc =/ Yeah I'm ok with this. I am busy tomorrow morning though so if we are going to do this we better do it quick. I cannot guarantee that I will make it to the flip (but I probably will). | ||
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How many more votes doesdb need? Should i vote him now or is there more? | ||
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On June 28 2012 10:02 Acrofales wrote: @nisani: seriously. WTF was that about. You didn't read your role PM properly enough to notify town a day in advance that there weren't any AMAs left. You played your role in an anti-town way and insisted on getting yourself lynched to prevent an accolade in the post-game. I'd say you played against your main wincon by the way you dealt with your role, but okay, in the end it all worked out, so water under the bridge. , but people didn't want to get onboard. Then when people started thinking of you as another option it made alot of sense. I tried clarifying with zeph about the possibility of more than one AMAs and he said that it was possible. The role pm also said "people that want you dead" so it was better not to take any risks. Getting myself lynched ensured that i wouldn't activate my loss condition. It may have been anti town but it was acting in my best ilnterests. | ||
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