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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 20 2012 16:33 GMT
#1201
Acrofales - you said you were going to be ready to claim in full D2. Is that still in the cards? Do it on the deadline I'm worried you're going to have a hit put on you.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 20 2012 16:35 GMT
#1202
If he dies tonight, we'll know his role anyway, lol.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 20 2012 16:36 GMT
#1203
hahaha oops.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
June 20 2012 16:38 GMT
#1204
I can't find it. I thought there was something in his response to the house chezinu stuff that made me think he was town, but I can't find it. I'm at work, so I'll figure out what made me think that later.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
June 20 2012 16:49 GMT
#1205
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2012 04:39 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:28 Drazerk wrote:
From this point on I am now ignoring any post that has anything to do with House Chezinu

I advice everyone else does the same so we can play a normal game


If the last Bastard game was any indication, this will be a bit stranger than a normal game.

Speaking of this House Chezinu... You "guys" want a lot for giving not so much. Are you a mason group? Can you recruit?

I'm staying cautiously positive atm. Unless you guys have cupcakes to offer, then I may change my stance =D
Post 1

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2012 14:27 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 14:06 EchelonTee wrote:
Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys?


Do you have a link/proof? For those of us bastards not in the loop? Not doubting you, just want as much info as possible.

Post 2

There's both my posts on House Chezinu + Show Spoiler +
Drink up!
, saying I was staying cautious about giving my name/info/wincon. Then, my new friend ET comes along offering history that may have helped people figure out what it was, and I asked him about it!
Bio - Breaking it down
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 20 2012 16:50 GMT
#1206
On June 21 2012 01:23 talismania wrote:
Ok a note on the king/setup business.

If KB was king, he knew he was king. There can't have been any of this "he didn't know he was king" stuff because his role PM outright says that he gets told who the king is.

My new theory is that the king's vote doesn't outright determine the vote, but the king gets to choose whose vote does. In this world, the king was cool with getting rid of dropbear and saw that kb was definitely going to vote for him, therefore he picked KB. Then at the last minute KB tried to get nisani killed with the switch onto himself (KB probably figured nisani for the MA and was trying to meet his wincon, it's really the only explanation for that switch) but ended up dying.

_____________

@Drazerk I am powerless now but I still would be a decent night kill because I'm not getting lynched anytime soon and I'm driving a lot of discussion.
______________

BioSC you look hilariously scummy.
_______________

@ghost... what? I kinda believed his claim since the part about hiropro made complete sense given how paranoid fourface was about hiro at the beginning of D1. What are you?


Good point on his role PM, I didn't notice that. That could be a correct explanation of how the king works. I would say its too convoluted, but so far everything points towards "more convoluted than the last bastard mafia" as the driving theme for this game.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18234 Posts
June 20 2012 16:54 GMT
#1207
The problem with any theory in which KB was not the king is this:
On June 20 2012 17:10 Acrofales wrote:

....

On setup speculation: while I don't like using mistakes by the host as a tell, I don't think he would've forgotten to update KB's vote on the final count if it was the only one that mattered. If the king doesn't know he's king, then HiroPro or BioSC are kingly options. Neither of these options make a lot of sense to me (HiroPro's post was too close to the deadline to read and decide upon, imho).

That leaves: the king knows he was king. The only person to not post tonight is Hyaach and I doubt he was king. So either the king has some reason for not exposing himself (either he's not allowed to, or the king was scum/3rd party), or the king is dead.

I presume the M.A. knows enough about the setup to be able to distinguish between these options and we'll figure it out tomorrow. If the king is a death sentence, then the minute this ability is used on a townie, that townie should just say so.

The final suggestion was Talismania's: the king lynch is decided with the smiley face and the king cannot lynch the M.A. This seems farfetched, but it's not impossible. The possible presence of more than one A.M.A. means we shouldn't try to confirm this theory yet. Even the voicing of this possibility could've been shooting ourselves in the foot (and yeah, I also figured it out at the eureka post... just not the why you thought that).

.....

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18234 Posts
June 20 2012 16:55 GMT
#1208
Also, note that KB knew who the king was, but not what the king did.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18234 Posts
June 20 2012 16:57 GMT
#1209
And KB seems to have been taken completely by surprise.

Either that, or he decided that if he was going down, he'd try to help out other scum factions by sending town into chaos trying to figure this king thing out.

I still think scumhunting and finding people for our illustrious king to kill is the proper move here, rather than chasing our tails trying to figure out the setup: there simply isn't enough information (yet).
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
June 20 2012 17:35 GMT
#1210
On June 20 2012 22:24 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 21:04 Acrofales wrote:
So now that that target is dead. Who else do you think we should kill off?


Next Highest on my scumy-wummy list is Nisani201. Buddying up to HiroPro's House Chezinu + Show Spoiler +
Unrelated note: I stopped counting at 200 mentions... That's a LOT of hard cider!
Weak case on xxzcxzxxsxd, and generally getting a scummy twitchy-pinchy-vibe from me. It would take a significant night action for me to change my mind about that, I've even got a song ready!



As promised, I'm going to randomly break into song!


music

Lyrics:

This is your singing lynch-a-gram,
I hope it finds you well.
You're invited to a lynching
'cause I think you're really swell!

Nisani's acting anti-town,
So help me get this lynch--
The weak case on xsksc,
copy-paste defense in a pinch!

Tonight's a time for action,
making reads to prove he's a thug!
And when the lynch is over
We'll gather 'round for a group hug!

No need to bring a gift,
Just your vote will be enough...
Lynches mean getting rid of scum,
Before getting a little rough!

It won't be the same without you,
So I hope that you say "yes."
So please, oh please, RSVP
And come and lynch our guest!
Bio - Breaking it down
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18234 Posts
June 20 2012 17:40 GMT
#1211
[image loading]
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 18:02:02
June 20 2012 18:01 GMT
#1212
CUPCAKES!

[image loading]


The white-hooded assassin entered her room that night. He knew who his target was: a Pony. Not any pony, but BioSC. A pink-colored pony with cotton-candy like mane, that despite being incredibly silent during the day, just wouldn't shut up in the night... until now.
The Pony was standing still, messing with something on her hooves. As the assassin approximated her silently, she started to tremble. Could she know he was nearby? Impossible, he was a master of assassination, responsible for the death of many terrible persons in the past. He took his blade and, as he approximated enough to do the fatal blow, the pony's mane suddenly got straight.
"So, I think you want a party huh?"

The assassin took a step backwards. She knew he was there, even after he took all precautions. BioSC slowly turned to face him, with a huge smile on her face. "Y'know what I enjoy the most? Smiles. Come here, I'll cut a smile on your face."
"I don't think so."

The pony jumped forward, holding a knife on her mouth. the two of them fought each other with passion, but it was obvious: the assassin had the superior technique, even when facing something so not human like. At a point, he cut her throat, blood spilling all over the floor.
"Just... another... party...", and she finally fell on the floor.
"Requiescate in pace." The assassin wished. The deed had been done.

______________________________

On the other side of the mansion, EchelonTee walked slowly. He felt something was coming, but couldn't put his finger on what it was. A shadow apperead, signialing someone was behind him. "Who is this?" he said. Turning his head, all he could hear was "NOPE", and a bullet was shot.
He was no more.

______________________________
When everyone woke up, they noticed the absence of BioSC and EchelonTee. The television didn't turn up either.

However, the red board switched from 00:00:01 to 48:00:00. Day 2 had begun.




BioSC, the Detective Pinkie Pie has been assassinated!

RolePM:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
You are Detective Pinkie Pie!
Each night, starting with N0, you may PM the hosts with the name of a player. You will receive a result of Anti-Town or Non Anti-Town.
You are Pinkie Pie however, so you are insane. Or sane. Or probably both. Or none. Nah, just sane or insane. Maybe. Careful for falling objects!

You win when all the anti-Town elements are destroyed. Also, friendship.


EchelonTee, the Framed BLU MEDIC has been shot!
RolePM:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
YOU ARE ZA BLU MEDIC

YOU ARE PART OF ZA BLU TEAM. YOU CAN SAVE ZA PEOPLS LIFE, EVEN ON ZA NIGHT ZERO, ALL NIGHTS. HEAVY IZ NOT INGAME, BUT HE TELLS IF U SAVED PEOPLE. HE WILL KNOW HE WAS SAVED, BUT U WILL BE ANONYMOZ.

YOU WIN IF ALL RED DIE. AND BLACK. OR THINGS THAT HARM. HARM THINGS HURT. KILL THEM.


Day 2 has begun.
Deadline is [unparsable timestamp format].
Lynch is plurality lynch.

11 players live.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
KharadBanar
Profile Joined February 2011
Austria463 Posts
June 20 2012 18:03 GMT
#1213
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
June 20 2012 18:05 GMT
#1214
GG, good luck town!

Smile Smile Smile!

♥♥♥
Bio - Breaking it down
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 20 2012 18:06 GMT
#1215
BioSC?

ET must have been scum's hit.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 20 2012 18:06 GMT
#1216
Hm, that's not what I expected...

Nisani, I want to you to claim in full.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 20 2012 18:07 GMT
#1217
oh that's why you talked like that lol
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 20 2012 18:07 GMT
#1218
yeah ok I know flavor is just flavor but clearly scum shot ET and an SK (one other AMA?) hit BioSC.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 20 2012 18:09 GMT
#1219
Thoughts on mass claim? I think there's just two anti-town left.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18234 Posts
June 20 2012 18:17 GMT
#1220
Damn it. I completely totally missed that shot

I am a vigi. To be precise, I am Ezio Auditorie de Firenze and I shot BioSC.

Breadcrumb is + Show Spoiler [here] +

On June 20 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
Votecount looks normal. It means that either there was no doublevote/politician shenanigans, or those mechanics are hidden. Given this, I think the hypothesis that there was a king who got to choose the lynch is the most likely one atm. Something is wrong with 4F's theory that the king dies: there is so much redundant information in the AMA's role pm. He didn't need to be told that any king could only be named once if the king got murdered at the end of the day.

Of everybody, I want DropBear to die most. Overall he looks incredibly scummy and the chance of his roleclaim being a blatant lie on top of that is just too much and he must die. The problem I have with Nisani is still mainly his roleclaim. I'm not sure that's enough to merit shooting tonight. No harm in putting him up for lynch tomorrow, though: he's still scummier than everybody else, including the trio of lurk (hyaach, biosc and xsksc).

Going to watch the football match now. Drazerk: England is going to lose against the Ukraine, lol.


and + Show Spoiler [amended here] +
On June 20 2012 19:48 Acrofales wrote:
Tweedledeedledum, I have found a scum!
After a quick look over BioSC's filter I don't think any other conclusion is possible.
Ridiculously lacking in any useful content whatsoever.

Given this lack of content, I started digging a bit deeper. Earlier, we caught Majuju, based mainly on Hiro's excellent case, based on Maju's stance on Chezinu. Take a look at BioSC's opinion of Chezinu: it is exactly the same. Cautiously trying to gain information without actually giving an opinion one way or the other. Here are some gems from his filter:
+ Show Spoiler [Ho Hum, Bio Scum] +

On June 17 2012 04:39 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:28 Drazerk wrote:
From this point on I am now ignoring any post that has anything to do with House Chezinu

I advice everyone else does the same so we can play a normal game


If the last Bastard game was any indication, this will be a bit stranger than a normal game.

Speaking of this House Chezinu... You "guys" want a lot for giving not so much. Are you a mason group? Can you recruit?

I'm staying cautiously positive atm. Unless you guys have cupcakes to offer, then I may change my stance =D


On June 17 2012 14:27 BioSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 14:06 EchelonTee wrote:
Isn't House Chezinu that 5th party mason circle from Aperture Mafia? Which means they are the good guys?


Do you have a link/proof? For those of us bastards not in the loop? Not doubting you, just want as much info as possible.



After this, there's only his case on KB, which was exactly enough to let him fly under the radar for all the rest of D1. Nothing else of use is in his filter, which would be pretty incriminating by itself, but lets look further. Go and look at this, his filter in his only other TL Mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763
Eeee gads! This filter is chock-a-block full of PBPA. He may have been wrong in Newbie XIII, but he was very VOCALLY wrong.
Now look at his filter this game:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763

Something tells me he learned from his newbie game: lurker scum wins... so he's giving it a try!



Sorry BioSC. I really liked your posts... I just thought you were scum. Blues shouldn't lurk

I like Hiro's plan and unless someone can think of a reason why I should post my extra losscon before Nisani does, I'm waiting to see what Nisani has to say.

Also, there was no king appointed?!
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