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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
A quiet Drazerk is even worse than a trolling Drazerk. I'm sorry I doubted your glorious England, now please come back and play with us. Top 3 scum reads! Now! On setup speculation: while I don't like using mistakes by the host as a tell, I don't think he would've forgotten to update KB's vote on the final count if it was the only one that mattered. If the king doesn't know he's king, then HiroPro or BioSC are kingly options. Neither of these options make a lot of sense to me (HiroPro's post was too close to the deadline to read and decide upon, imho). That leaves: the king knows he was king. The only person to not post tonight is Hyaach and I doubt he was king. So either the king has some reason for not exposing himself (either he's not allowed to, or the king was scum/3rd party), or the king is dead. I presume the M.A. knows enough about the setup to be able to distinguish between these options and we'll figure it out tomorrow. If the king is a death sentence, then the minute this ability is used on a townie, that townie should just say so. The final suggestion was Talismania's: the king lynch is decided with the smiley face and the king cannot lynch the M.A. This seems farfetched, but it's not impossible. The possible presence of more than one A.M.A. means we shouldn't try to confirm this theory yet. Even the voicing of this possibility could've been shooting ourselves in the foot (and yeah, I also figured it out at the eureka post... just not the why you thought that). So that brings us back to scumhunting: DropBear, rather than proclaiming your innocence. KB was 3rd party, not scum, so your victory dance is completely unfounded. I don't think many people thought KB was town, but you unvoted him based on the Maju flip: that made no sense if you thought he was your strongest anti-town read. So yeah, DropBear, other than Nisani, who else do you think is scum. I want to hear more than just "Nisani must die". Nisani has not been fishing for the M.A, but rather for the king. I am completely unsure what to think of him at this point. And that brings us full circle to Drazerk: start playing! | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
I am not about to speculate on the lynch because there is too many possibilities. But KH dying does not clear DropBear's roleclaim now and makes it even more complicated. (I understand a vengeful townie as one who will get lynched but the last person to vote gets killed as well) KH's last unvote and PM tells me he and Nisani are not linked 3rd party. Nisani201 still looks like a 3rd party. He voting DropBear does not give him town cred. He was in no danger of being the last to vote and he wasn't engaging in the thread to make it that he will be the last to vote. | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
xksxe is a null. His case are on KH who died 3rd party and Nisani except he did not read thread and thought Nisani was Maju's scum partner after Talis pointed the extra win con out. Scums don't follow thread closely. He also hasn't contributed his case on Nisani201 but rather just sheep DropBear( potential lynch candidate day1 and day2) whom he never gave a read on. And i think any scum/3rd party can figure out the name/role correlation already. BnS is null. A quick glance through his filter, its almost like Drazek except longer. Only thing Drazek has that sets him apart is the deco detector thing. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
BioSc: lurker xsskddlal: null BnS: null (and by extension Drazerk null?) Nisani: didn't gain town cred (does that make him null? or scum?) DropBear: ??? (what do you actually think of your Koala neighbour?) | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 20 2012 14:27 talismania wrote: DropBear, who is Maju's partner? Why? Other reads? _____________ Same questions at hyaach, BioSC, and Drazerk. In order of likeliness DB 201 BSC Who ever replaced FF S+B xskcd Hyaach Also I am town and do not have a name so I'm going to debunk that theory | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 20 2012 18:13 Acrofales wrote: Dammit Drazerk, why would you go and say you're town. I was going to make a case on you for posting at the deadline, but you've just completely debunked it. Why do you think xkcd comes before Hyaach and why do both come after SnB? I dislike his soft claim that is basically it S+B and hyaach are just null reads at this point | ||
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
BIO is lurker. xsk is null with guts on scum. BnS is null. I would shoot dropbear and lynch nisano201 tomorrow. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
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Hyaach
Singapore1737 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
On June 20 2012 18:19 Drazerk wrote: Finally tali you said you was a one shot vigi why would they shoot you when it confirms me + dec? Well, mainly because it doesn't, because of the retarded way that sentence was phrased (still pisses me off). The post with the full logical proof is somewhere in my filter. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
On June 20 2012 18:28 Acrofales wrote: Well, mainly because it doesn't, because of the retarded way that sentence was phrased (still pisses me off). The post with the full logical proof is somewhere in my filter. Fine it leads to the possibility of a confirmed town the most dangerous thing scum have to deal with and most refuse to deal with. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
On June 20 2012 18:16 Drazerk wrote: Also someone was going to lynch everyone without a name / using it as evidence against DB I just wanted to stop that from happening No... I'm perfectly happy to believe vanilla townies have no name. It'd be a bit like GoT mafia, where blue roles got fancy names (then again, so did scum and 3P), but VT were just "stark bannermen". It's also possible there are no VT in this game. Role names may be a completely random thing (meaning some red/blacks have names and some townies don't). I'm still thinking DropBear looks terrible (with or without the role name stuff). He is very defensive, but his actual scumhunting is nowhere to be found. He might be like Tunkeg, though. So focused on trying to defend himself, that he forgets that the way not to get lynched is to play actively and find scum. | ||
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
 Also there are VTs in this game. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
On June 18 2012 02:27 BioSC wrote: Is it just me, or did the bastard voting thread say "votes before and after the deadline don't count"? *Phoenix Wright Point* I spy a conundrum! Yo Bio, you claiming here you are also Phoenix Wright? Or is this just a coincidence? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
Given this lack of content, I started digging a bit deeper. Earlier, we caught Majuju, based mainly on Hiro's excellent case, based on Maju's stance on Chezinu. Take a look at BioSC's opinion of Chezinu: it is exactly the same. Cautiously trying to gain information without actually giving an opinion one way or the other. Here are some gems from his filter: + Show Spoiler [Ho Hum, Bio Scum] + On June 17 2012 04:39 BioSC wrote: If the last Bastard game was any indication, this will be a bit stranger than a normal game. Speaking of this House Chezinu... You "guys" want a lot for giving not so much. Are you a mason group? Can you recruit? I'm staying cautiously positive atm. Unless you guys have cupcakes to offer, then I may change my stance =D On June 17 2012 14:27 BioSC wrote: Do you have a link/proof? For those of us bastards not in the loop? Not doubting you, just want as much info as possible. After this, there's only his case on KB, which was exactly enough to let him fly under the radar for all the rest of D1. Nothing else of use is in his filter, which would be pretty incriminating by itself, but lets look further. Go and look at this, his filter in his only other TL Mafia: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763 Eeee gads! This filter is chock-a-block full of PBPA. He may have been wrong in Newbie XIII, but he was very VOCALLY wrong. Now look at his filter this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=343892&user=85763 Something tells me he learned from his newbie game: lurker scum wins... so he's giving it a try! | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18290 Posts
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