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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
June 19 2012 20:15 GMT
#1061
Alright, my thoughts on some other things:

FourFace: you should check out of DropBear, Drazerk, and xsksc. Tell us in the morning who you checked and what you got.

As for the MA ordeal, I think it's interesting that the King isn't claiming even though as far as we know, there isn't anyone gunning for the king, only the MA.

The MA crowns someone every night. So what if the king doesn't know that he is king? I think that would be interesting, and I think it would balance out the whole town-has-no-KP thing.
Enjoy your day.
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:20 GMT
#1062
So Mr. Monarchist Activist.. please crown DropBear king because I'm going to check him tonight. If we synch than I can establish my insanity.

Perhaps you haven't realized it but you are our lynch, and since we decided for DropBear you will crown him tonight, capiche?!
I don't know, lynch me!
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:21 GMT
#1063
And ffs don't claim
I don't know, lynch me!
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 19 2012 20:25 GMT
#1064
Fourface what makes you think the king is the one who dies? Like, I don't understand where you get that idea from.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 19 2012 20:27 GMT
#1065
Well I think I'm probably wrong because it feels like the kind of thing I would be wrong about. Like too crazy to be true etc.

The hypothesis/conspiracy theory is that Nisani is actually the Monarchist Activist. He made KharadBanar king for some reason. The king gets to decide the lynch with the "hello X smiley face" thing. (I don't buy that KB typed that because he was saving Nisani from the vengeful townie thing - he had already unvote-voted after nisani's vote and said nothing then. This was done after fourface's vote, and kb was aware that he was just vote-unvoting for fourface as you can see from the thread).

KB was so willing to be the last vote on dropbear because he knew that even if dropbear was a vengeful townie it wouldn't matter because he knew he was king and actually got to decide the lynch. In fact he might have even figured that dropbear was scum faking his claim (knowing about the king mechanic), and didn't want him to die because it would increase his chances of surviving longer (more kp at night, another lynch distracted). KB probably saw that Nisani was similarly unconcerned about dying, and figured that nisani must know about the king mechanic, and figured him for the Monarchist Activist. Therefore he tried to meet his first wincon by lynching him, even if it meant he would likely not be around to meet his other wincon.

Unbeknownst to KB, the king actually can't lynch the MA. It's like my dayvig power. I couldn't have shot the king - I would have died instead. If the king tries to lynch the MA, the king dies instead. This also fits with KB's death post "Zephirdd PM'd me the whole story" implying that there's a "whole story" and that KB was surprised more than usual by his death.

Nisani being MA also fits with his claim of a "crazy role" and of having extra wincons and extra losscons. He loses if he is killed, and he loses if town loses. He wins if town wins and... something else? The king is never killed? He survives to the end? Dunno. But it seems like it would be the kind of role where that would fit.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 19 2012 20:28 GMT
#1066
on the final vote count it says KB was still voting for Nisani. Why did his vote change not count?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 19 2012 20:32 GMT
#1067
Talis, I think that KB didn't know he was the king. He changed his vote to himself and thought nisani would die from the vengeful townie thing. However, in actuality whoever the king votes for gets lynched. KB voted for himself, so he died.

This is pending a response to my question above. If the answer is "his vote was too late" then I'm wrong. If there is no answer then I think I'm right.

I also think fourface gets informed who the king is each day, and knows kb was the king and that's why he keeps insisting that the king dies, which is retarded.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 19 2012 20:33 GMT
#1068
And as soon as you said "I think I know what you are" the nisani-as-MA theory popped out to me too.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:34 GMT
#1069
On June 20 2012 05:27 talismania wrote:
Well I think I'm probably wrong because it feels like the kind of thing I would be wrong about. Like too crazy to be true etc.

The hypothesis/conspiracy theory is that Nisani is actually the Monarchist Activist. He made KharadBanar king for some reason. The king gets to decide the lynch with the "hello X smiley face" thing. (I don't buy that KB typed that because he was saving Nisani from the vengeful townie thing - he had already unvote-voted after nisani's vote and said nothing then. This was done after fourface's vote, and kb was aware that he was just vote-unvoting for fourface as you can see from the thread).

KB was so willing to be the last vote on dropbear because he knew that even if dropbear was a vengeful townie it wouldn't matter because he knew he was king and actually got to decide the lynch. In fact he might have even figured that dropbear was scum faking his claim (knowing about the king mechanic), and didn't want him to die because it would increase his chances of surviving longer (more kp at night, another lynch distracted). KB probably saw that Nisani was similarly unconcerned about dying, and figured that nisani must know about the king mechanic, and figured him for the Monarchist Activist. Therefore he tried to meet his first wincon by lynching him, even if it meant he would likely not be around to meet his other wincon.

Unbeknownst to KB, the king actually can't lynch the MA. It's like my dayvig power. I couldn't have shot the king - I would have died instead. If the king tries to lynch the MA, the king dies instead. This also fits with KB's death post "Zephirdd PM'd me the whole story" implying that there's a "whole story" and that KB was surprised more than usual by his death.

Nisani being MA also fits with his claim of a "crazy role" and of having extra wincons and extra losscons. He loses if he is killed, and he loses if town loses. He wins if town wins and... something else? The king is never killed? He survives to the end? Dunno. But it seems like it would be the kind of role where that would fit.


I like the way you think .. time will tell.
I don't know, lynch me!
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 19 2012 20:36 GMT
#1070
On June 20 2012 05:32 strongandbig wrote:
Talis, I think that KB didn't know he was the king. He changed his vote to himself and thought nisani would die from the vengeful townie thing. However, in actuality whoever the king votes for gets lynched. KB voted for himself, so he died.

This is pending a response to my question above. If the answer is "his vote was too late" then I'm wrong. If there is no answer then I think I'm right.

I also think fourface gets informed who the king is each day, and knows kb was the king and that's why he keeps insisting that the king dies, which is retarded.



Yeah that makes a lot of sense actually. I just reread what I posted and it's stupid as fuck lol.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 19 2012 20:37 GMT
#1071
On June 20 2012 05:33 strongandbig wrote:
And as soon as you said "I think I know what you are" the nisani-as-MA theory popped out to me too.


Yeah it was dumb for me to post that. If he really is MA and MA is pro-town then maybe I've accidentally shot us in the foot. Anyway who knows? Bastard game.
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:38 GMT
#1072
strongandbig is behaving most scumishly. And you talis should also stop making inquiries about the identity of the MA. Only AMA want to know who the MA is and since the AMA are 3rd party you could be one of them even because you killed a scum
I don't know, lynch me!
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 19 2012 20:39 GMT
#1073
On June 20 2012 05:38 FourFace wrote:
strongandbig is behaving most scumishly. And you talis should also stop making inquiries about the identity of the MA. Only AMA want to know who the MA is and since the AMA are 3rd party you could be one of them even because you killed a scum


Do you get told who the king is each day?
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:40 GMT
#1074
No, honest to god
I don't know, lynch me!
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:42 GMT
#1075
Do you?
I don't know, lynch me!
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 20:46 GMT
#1076
On June 20 2012 05:32 strongandbig wrote:
Talis, I think that KB didn't know he was the king. He changed his vote to himself and thought nisani would die from the vengeful townie thing. However, in actuality whoever the king votes for gets lynched. KB voted for himself, so he died.


Hm, this might be the right explanation. The only thing is, why would the MA pick KB....
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:47 GMT
#1077
On June 20 2012 05:46 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 05:32 strongandbig wrote:
Talis, I think that KB didn't know he was the king. He changed his vote to himself and thought nisani would die from the vengeful townie thing. However, in actuality whoever the king votes for gets lynched. KB voted for himself, so he died.


Hm, this might be the right explanation. The only thing is, why would the MA pick KB....


True.
I don't know, lynch me!
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5260 Posts
June 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1078
.....wat ......
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
June 19 2012 20:49 GMT
#1079
You guys are blinded by the fact that you think the king should be the one to lynch someone.. Well we already got a king.. the BURGER KING.. and he don't like imposters so. Makes me wonder why you can't see the beauty in this.
I don't know, lynch me!
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 20:52 GMT
#1080
Are you still waiting to see the bastard roles, ET?
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