Can we get the final votecount please? Will this show any voting shenanigans such as politicians or double voters?

It would be hilarious if KB's voteswitch caused him to get himself lynched.

FourFace

701 Posts

June 19 2012 18:25 GMT

#1025

On June 20 2012 03:18 Acrofales wrote:

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In that case KB's role pm is a bit strange. But it is a possibility... but only if the MA is not town, but a survivor-type deal. It doesn't go specifically against my role pm for that to be true, but it would be a VERY strange setup.

You don't say?

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

June 19 2012 18:27 GMT

#1026

On June 20 2012 03:24 Acrofales wrote:
Can we get the final votecount please? Will this show any voting shenanigans such as politicians or double voters?

It would be hilarious if KB's voteswitch caused him to get himself lynched.

Final Votecount~~down~~

- xsksc (2)
talismania
EchelonTee

- KharadBanar (2)
BioSC
HiroPro

- Nisani201 (4)
DropBear
xsksc
deconduo
Hyaach

- DropBear (6)
Drazerk
Acrofales
strongandbig
Nisani201
FourFace
KharadBanar

FourFace

701 Posts

June 19 2012 18:30 GMT

#1027

You are the Anti-Monarchy Activist
Starting from Night 1, you may chose a player to kill. You will be informed who the Monarchist Activist names to be King every day. He may only name the same player once.
You check as anti-Town to rolechecks. You are bulletproof, which means you can only die as a consequence of a lynch.

You win if you are alive to see the Monarchist Activist die. You win again if you are alive at the end of the game.

I have found my master. Whoever designed this setup and phrased that role PM is my GOD from now on.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 19 2012 18:36 GMT

#1028

Guys guys, I've discovered the secret to this setup. Maju looked scummy - he was scum. KB looked scummy - he was anti-town third party.

Nisani201 looks scummy. We should lynch him!!!!

BioSC

United States636 Posts

June 19 2012 18:51 GMT

#1029

On June 20 2012 03:19 HiroPro wrote:
Also BioSC, where the hell have you been?

+ Show Spoiler +

Any reason I give will probably look like an excuse, but since you want to know, RL has been very busy and I'm trying to get a job (still waiting on a call back today or tomorrow)

On June 20 2012 03:22 Acrofales wrote:

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Hrmmm... canthe now ex-king please speak up? I presume you are no longer in danger of evil assassins, because you're no longer king...

I can't help you out there, since I am not/was not the king. This game is full of surprises! I LOVE surprises!

Acrofales

Spain18344 Posts

June 19 2012 19:20 GMT

#1030

Votecount looks normal. It means that either there was no doublevote/politician shenanigans, or those mechanics are hidden. Given this, I think the hypothesis that there was a king who got to choose the lynch is the most likely one atm. Something is wrong with 4F's theory that the king dies: there is so much redundant information in the AMA's role pm. He didn't need to be told that any king could only be named once if the king got murdered at the end of the day.

Of everybody, I want DropBear to die most. Overall he looks incredibly scummy and the chance of his roleclaim being a blatant lie on top of that is just too much and he must die. The problem I have with Nisani is still mainly his roleclaim. I'm not sure that's enough to merit shooting tonight. No harm in putting him up for lynch tomorrow, though: he's still scummier than everybody else, including the trio of lurk (hyaach, biosc and xsksc).

Going to watch the football match now. Drazerk: England is going to lose against the Ukraine, lol.

FourFace

701 Posts

June 19 2012 19:23 GMT

#1031

On June 20 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
there is so much redundant information in the AMA's role pm. He didn't need to be told that any king could only be named once if the king got murdered at the end of the day.

There's so much more aesthetic value to this because of it. Trust me .. I know beauty when I see it.

FourFace

701 Posts

June 19 2012 19:26 GMT

#1032

Besides, KB voted himself. Check the voting thread. He got notified in his PM when the new king was crowned that he was going to die.

FourFace

701 Posts

June 19 2012 19:27 GMT

#1033

Hence

KharadBanar walked in front of the television, ready for what was to come. "It's--."

Acrofales

Spain18344 Posts

June 19 2012 19:29 GMT

#1034

On June 20 2012 04:23 FourFace wrote:

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There's so much more aesthetic value to this because of it. Trust me .. I know beauty when I see it.

It's not aesthetic beauty... it's just adding confusion: does it mean that a king can be chosen only once? Or does it mean that only once per game, the MA may repeat his choice for king?

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

June 19 2012 19:33 GMT

#1035

On June 20 2012 04:20 Acrofales wrote:
Votecount looks normal. It means that either there was no doublevote/politician shenanigans, or those mechanics are hidden. Given this, I think the hypothesis that there was a king who got to choose the lynch is the most likely one atm. Something is wrong with 4F's theory that the king dies: there is so much redundant information in the AMA's role pm. He didn't need to be told that any king could only be named once if the king got murdered at the end of the day.

Of everybody, I want DropBear to die most. Overall he looks incredibly scummy and the chance of his roleclaim being a blatant lie on top of that is just too much and he must die. The problem I have with Nisani is still mainly his roleclaim. I'm not sure that's enough to merit shooting tonight. No harm in putting him up for lynch tomorrow, though: he's still scummier than everybody else, including the trio of lurk (hyaach, biosc and xsksc).

Going to watch the football match now. Drazerk: England is going to lose against the Ukraine, lol.

Everyone in England hates the English football team.

I was rooting for Ireland >.>

FourFace

701 Posts

June 19 2012 19:35 GMT

#1036

lol man, it means the MA chooses a king after the night period is over .. that king knows he's going to die because he gets a PM where the host tells him that he is king now ... for a day. Maybe it's just how it was on night 0 + Day 1 and starting Night 1 it will be different and the lynch will actually count. But my moneys on the king dies every day.
The MA is 3rd party and fulfilled his wincon by killing the AMA by naming him king... I think the MA knows that the AMA is bulletproof so it wouldn't be fair for him not to have this special KP by lynching by crowning.

Confusing? I love it. This is the best fucking game ever

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 19 2012 19:36 GMT

#1037

Ok lots of stuff to digest.

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King

King can decide the lynch outright? Or has sick vote manipulation ability? Probably decides the lynch outright since KB only had 2 votes but who knows. There must be some reason King doesn't want to claim. I guess the same king can be repeated only once so perhaps he thinks he'll be re-appointed.

I will say this again since it probably got lost somewhere, but if I had shot the king yesterday, I would have died instead. Dunno if that says anything really though.

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Monarchist Activist

I'm guessing is pro-town as Acrofales suggests. He wins by dodging a third party anti-town faction clearly. Doesn't make sense for him to be scum (perhaps third party survivor?). So yeah. Pro-town or neutral. Doesn't want to give the king power to the wrong person.

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FourFace's claim

Bulletproof DT?? What a crazy stupid good role. It almost has to be insane for it to be balanced. I buy the claim though as it explains his behavior, especially his paranoia regarding Hiro as the day broke. FourFace can you claim whatever else was in your PM? Regarding king/MA/etc? I think you should check Nisani.

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DropBear's claim

Could be fake could be real. It did reek of desperation. DropBear, anything else in your PM that you'd like to claim?

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Amount of KP in the game??

We have at least one 2 person scum team with one KP. We had at least one SK with one KP per night, and I'm betting we have another one too given that "some" of the people who know about the MA want him dead according to my PM. That's possibly already 3 kp. I'm doubting whether there really is another 2 person scum team. It's possible I guess that other potential anti-monarchists might not have the exact same wincon as KB.

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Nisani.

You have more or less claimed third party it seems and there's a strong danger to me that you're just like KB. You're almost certainly going to be lynched. Care to actually claim?

(If Nisani really does have an "extra lose" wincon then it means he doesn't have exactly what KB had.)

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BioSC

Now that you're here, contribute something. Make a post and talk through your suspicions of people.

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

June 19 2012 19:38 GMT

#1038

The idea that the kingmaker just names someone as king to kill every day is discountable. Town would have no collective KP at that point. It seems much more likely that the kingmaker chooses a king and the king chooses the lynch.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

June 19 2012 19:38 GMT

#1039

I have not claimed third party and I am not third party. I have no idea why people keep saying that.

FourFace

701 Posts

June 19 2012 19:41 GMT

#1040

On June 20 2012 04:38 strongandbig wrote:
The idea that the kingmaker just names someone as king to kill every day is discountable. Town would have no collective KP at that point. It seems much more likely that the kingmaker chooses a king and the king chooses the lynch.

Why are you obsessing with this king chooses the lynch.. it's stupid. And it's obvious that KharadBanar was the king because he went forward to announce the lynch. The Burget King guy said I asked the King .. and that's who was supposed to announce the lynch but the yours truly crashed the party and said Koalabears name. Do you get it or not? There is no need for speculations it's all in the phrasing. No king is going to claim because he's dead ok?