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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 00:41 GMT
#861
If MajuGarzett framed player "x", would this be a false statement: "Player "x" is town"?
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
June 19 2012 00:48 GMT
#862
On June 19 2012 09:41 HiroPro wrote:
If MajuGarzett framed player "x", would this be a false statement: "Player "x" is town"?


Framing only affects checks made by cops, detectives and any other kind of roles that work with that.

A framed town player is still a town player.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
June 19 2012 00:57 GMT
#863
FUCK

YES

FUCK YES

EAT IT HIROPRO EAT IT FUCK YES
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
June 19 2012 00:58 GMT
#864
man i just screamed out loud, that makes me so gdam happy lolllllllllllllll
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 00:59 GMT
#865
....... I had the right read on him initially.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 01:03:01
June 19 2012 01:02 GMT
#866
Just a quick reminder, 13 out of 15 players voted. with Maju dead, only 12/14 have voted. You must vote no matter what until the deadline at [unparsable timestamp format]. Also, votes for MajuGarzett do not count anymore, which invalidates 4 current votes.

Thanks.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
June 19 2012 01:03 GMT
#867
Yeah, sorry for the outburst. Just happy.

I know I called you scum or something like that once, but I'm not very interested in you atm. We should look at people who soft defended Maju, but the fact that he only has one(?) partner means it might not be easy to find an easy connection.

There was 1KP last night and it was never accounted for. If you're town, it'd probably be best to claim it so we have pertinent information; since no one claimed, I am going to currently assume that a neutral or another anti-town faction was shot.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 19 2012 01:05 GMT
#868
On June 19 2012 10:03 EchelonTee wrote:
Yeah, sorry for the outburst. Just happy.

I know I called you scum or something like that once, but I'm not very interested in you atm. We should look at people who soft defended Maju, but the fact that he only has one(?) partner means it might not be easy to find an easy connection.

There was 1KP last night and it was never accounted for. If you're town, it'd probably be best to claim it so we have pertinent information; since no one claimed, I am going to currently assume that a neutral or another anti-town faction was shot.


His PM says they don't get KP on night 0.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
June 19 2012 01:06 GMT
#869
On June 19 2012 10:03 EchelonTee wrote:
There was 1KP last night and it was never accounted for. If you're town, it'd probably be best to claim it so we have pertinent information; since no one claimed, I am going to currently assume that a neutral or another anti-town faction was shot.


Maju's role PM says that they have a KP starting from night 1. Pretty sure that means they weren't able to shoot anyone yesterday.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
June 19 2012 01:07 GMT
#870
Ah, mbad misread it.

NS tali, btw
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 19 2012 02:02 GMT
#871
this also fits with my theory that there might be two scum teams of two. Alternatively it could be one scum team of two, and a bunch of one-shot assassins. Or something else entirely.

Gonna put my vote on kharadbanar for now.

DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
June 19 2012 03:51 GMT
#872
Jesus christ you guys are spammy. Please stop with the one-liners!

I'm reading up. Good shot on majugarzett, I'm unvoting KB for now cos he was voting for maju according to the voting thread.
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
June 19 2012 04:18 GMT
#873
Alright I've already called out Nisani as being suss, this just looks real bad now.

On June 18 2012 06:43 Nisani201 wrote:
Some other points to make:

If you are the "king" then you should claim that you are, as well as the powers you have.

I also don't like the case on Maju


This never got explained sir.

Voting for Nisani
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
June 19 2012 04:31 GMT
#874
On June 19 2012 05:40 EchelonTee wrote:
DropBear

His first post is fairly fluffy regarding the house, talking about "I don't not trust you, but I don't trust you", and "VE lolol", which isn't ordinarily a big concern for the early game, but considering that his suspicion on KB is for talking about "filler", it's hypocritical. Esp. since KB's speculation is more relevant than DB's (KB specifically says be careful with your alignment.

Same point, DB is implying that KB being diplomatic towards the House is scummy, even though DB's first post was diplomatic as fck.

He warps some logic when trying to tunnel KB more. He uses the fact that Nisani is defending him as a reason to call KB scummy; there is no associative tell to make, you don't know Nisani's alignment. I already adressed the House comments. The "scumslip" he mentions isn't much. The biggest reason why he calls KB is scum is because "has big fluffy posts where he doesn't say much", but KB has been doing a lot more since then, which DB ignores.

He's been playing a very tight game where his only accusation is on KB, considered to be an "easy accusation". This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably. Make an accusation that is easy, don't post much else on other topics.

My first post in this game was made drunk as hell at 3am on a Saturday night.

Read it again. What it says is I AM NOT JOINING HOUSE CHEZINU.

What warped logic? I greatly suspect Nisani's alignment, even more now after his defence of Maju that I linked in the post prior to this. And scumbuddies defend each other, no?

KB's posting continued to be overly verbose and not actually saying all that much of substance. I still am suspicious of his alignment.

As for the last bit, I'm going to requote you.

On June 19 2012 05:40 EchelonTee wrote:
This is not scummy inherently, but it's how I would've played it as scum, probably.

I'm sorry, what?
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
June 19 2012 04:39 GMT
#875
NISANI201 IS A SCUMBAG

Defends Maju with no reasoning. THIS IS DODGY AS ALL HELL.

Tries to ally himself with Hiro at the beginning of the game purely for the sake of safety, clearly has something to hide.

The case on xsksc is terrible.

Extremely defensive. Generally is only popping up to defend himself.

NISANI201 IS RED AND NEEDS TO DIE
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
June 19 2012 04:51 GMT
#876
I also am unsure what to think of deconduo.

This early post from deconduo caught my eye immediately and to me was a huge blueslip, highlighted here:

On June 18 2012 07:09 deconduo wrote:
I think Hiro pointed out that people who allied with Chezinu were probably scum/survivors but I disagree. Wanting to increase your survival chances is a town trait for people who feel they have a good blue role, especially docs/cops. As for the individual people:

This immediately made me think decon was a blue of some kind. Was this deliberate?

He has soft defended Maju a few times but.
Sucker for nostalgia
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
June 19 2012 04:55 GMT
#877
On June 19 2012 13:51 DropBear wrote:
I also am unsure what to think of deconduo.

This early post from deconduo caught my eye immediately and to me was a huge blueslip, highlighted here:

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 07:09 deconduo wrote:
I think Hiro pointed out that people who allied with Chezinu were probably scum/survivors but I disagree. Wanting to increase your survival chances is a town trait for people who feel they have a good blue role, especially docs/cops. As for the individual people:

This immediately made me think decon was a blue of some kind. Was this deliberate?

He has soft defended Maju a few times but.

did you read the thread?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
June 19 2012 04:58 GMT
#878
On June 19 2012 13:55 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 13:51 DropBear wrote:
I also am unsure what to think of deconduo.

This early post from deconduo caught my eye immediately and to me was a huge blueslip, highlighted here:

On June 18 2012 07:09 deconduo wrote:
I think Hiro pointed out that people who allied with Chezinu were probably scum/survivors but I disagree. Wanting to increase your survival chances is a town trait for people who feel they have a good blue role, especially docs/cops. As for the individual people:

This immediately made me think decon was a blue of some kind. Was this deliberate?

He has soft defended Maju a few times but.

did you read the thread?

Yes I have caught up. Deconduo claimed the lie detector. His statement being called false does not conclusively say he is town though. The only one of the three statements that is confirmed false for me was the one saying talismania was not town.

Talismania is pretty well cleared for mine but that statement was already false. The other two statements could still be false as well.
Sucker for nostalgia
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
June 19 2012 05:11 GMT
#879
On June 19 2012 13:39 DropBear wrote:
NISANI201 IS A SCUMBAG

Defends Maju with no reasoning. THIS IS DODGY AS ALL HELL.

Tries to ally himself with Hiro at the beginning of the game purely for the sake of safety, clearly has something to hide.

The case on xsksc is terrible.

Extremely defensive. Generally is only popping up to defend himself.

NISANI201 IS RED AND NEEDS TO DIE

I gave Nisani the benefit of the doubt earlier, I thought he was just being bad lol. Maju's flip is pretty condemning for him, he looks a lot more likely to be the scum partner than KB does. That's not to say I think KB is town, though. I don't think he's AS likely to bleed "pure scum", as it were.
TLDR I agree, Nisani would be a good lynch.

On June 19 2012 13:51 DropBear wrote:
I also am unsure what to think of deconduo.

This early post from deconduo caught my eye immediately and to me was a huge blueslip, highlighted here:

Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 07:09 deconduo wrote:
I think Hiro pointed out that people who allied with Chezinu were probably scum/survivors but I disagree. Wanting to increase your survival chances is a town trait for people who feel they have a good blue role, especially docs/cops. As for the individual people:

This immediately made me think decon was a blue of some kind. Was this deliberate?

He has soft defended Maju a few times but.

It's not relevant anymore, but if you think you've found a blueslip, why would you draw attention to it? o.O
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5252 Posts
June 19 2012 05:14 GMT
#880
Tali could be 3rd party with a day shot; not confirmed town, btw. Drazerk in Aperture had a similar role.
On June 19 2012 13:39 DropBear wrote:
NISANI201 IS A SCUMBAG

Defends Maju with no reasoning. THIS IS DODGY AS ALL HELL.

Tries to ally himself with Hiro at the beginning of the game purely for the sake of safety, clearly has something to hide.

The case on xsksc is terrible.

Extremely defensive. Generally is only popping up to defend himself.

NISANI201 IS RED AND NEEDS TO DIE

This actually is a pretty good catch. Hiro already made the case that 201 is scum/3rd party, and he leaned survivor. That maju connection pushes that feeling towards scum.

The beauty of the situation is that since there are multiple factions, you could both be Anti-town!

I'm willing to shelve DB for Nisani. Thoughts?
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
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