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On June 19 2012 07:53 deconduo wrote:
Oh for all the people whining, here was my logic:
I was pretty sure talis was neutral or 3rd party. None of his actions pointed towards him being town. If the statement showed up as true, we had 2 confirmed towns and we killed talis.
If instead I had posted that all 3 of us were town and it turned up false, we would be in the exact same situation. We would lynch talis, and assuming he flipped non-town, it would give no information on either mine or drazerk's alignment.
Operating on the assumption that talis was not town, given how he was avoiding posting what I had asked, the statement tested was the best one to go for.
And yes, while none of the 3 of us are 100% confirmed, we are 95% town.
So for your test of Talismania being scum, you use Drazerk?! Why not wait for someone who you actually have some conviction of being town to come on? Drazerk has self-proclaimed MULTIPLE times in the thread to not even have read his own role pm.
This was a BAD use of that power and you SHOULD have thought it through more. Now back to hunting scum.
At least I agree that if Drazerk knew he was scum, he would not have posted the first proposal for lie detecting, so at least we know that Drazerk is either town and messing with us, or has, in actual fact, not read his role pm.
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On June 19 2012 07:58 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:56 Drazerk wrote:
Who ever you shoot I am placing a 30 min clock on it T_T Relax as much as I hate to say it I don't think I'm going to shoot you. God if you're scum...
I should probably check the player's time zones
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MajuGarzett, you're around.
Who else besides FourFace is scummy to you?
What do you make of KharadBanar? Nisani?
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On June 19 2012 07:59 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:53 deconduo wrote:
Oh for all the people whining, here was my logic:
I was pretty sure talis was neutral or 3rd party. None of his actions pointed towards him being town. If the statement showed up as true, we had 2 confirmed towns and we killed talis.
If instead I had posted that all 3 of us were town and it turned up false, we would be in the exact same situation. We would lynch talis, and assuming he flipped non-town, it would give no information on either mine or drazerk's alignment.
Operating on the assumption that talis was not town, given how he was avoiding posting what I had asked, the statement tested was the best one to go for.
And yes, while none of the 3 of us are 100% confirmed, we are 95% town. So for your test of Talismania being scum, you use Drazerk?! Why not wait for someone who you actually have some conviction of being town to come on? Drazerk has self-proclaimed MULTIPLE times in the thread to not even have read his own role pm. This was a BAD use of that power and you SHOULD have thought it through more. Now back to hunting scum. At least I agree that if Drazerk knew he was scum, he would not have posted the first proposal for lie detecting, so at least we know that Drazerk is either town and messing with us, or has, in actual fact, not read his role pm.
I read it a couple of pages back I am town
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On June 19 2012 07:56 talismania wrote:
Ok fine let's move on.
Deconduo, who should I shoot?
KharadBanar
-Scummy play with the House Chezinu stuff
-Scummy play in the aftermath of the House Chezinu stuff
-Puts a case against BioSC and proposes him as a lynch candidate, then votes for mazu
-Then asks for Dropbear to be day vigged.
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I'm fine with a KB shoot. I don't think he's town.
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So yeah, let me correct you on your conclusion:
Drazerk: 100% didn't read his role pm, so approx. 4/14 chance of being scum (assuming 4 scum... there's 14 as a denominator, because we know he's not the kingmaker, due to a king being chosen).
However, this fucks up the probabilities on the rest as well and all we get from that is further behavioural analysis, which say that you and Tali are town. However, it was a complete waste of a lie detector.
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Hmm I just realized that drazerk didn't check his pm until after the "objection" was made. So when he made his all three are town passage he didn't know his own alignment. God that would be sick if he did roll scum.
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On June 19 2012 08:06 talismania wrote:
Hmm I just realized that drazerk didn't check his pm until after the "objection" was made. So when he made his all three are town passage he didn't know his own alignment. God that would be sick if he did roll scum.
I could of still probably taken dec down with me
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On June 19 2012 08:00 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:59 Acrofales wrote:On June 19 2012 07:53 deconduo wrote:
Oh for all the people whining, here was my logic:
I was pretty sure talis was neutral or 3rd party. None of his actions pointed towards him being town. If the statement showed up as true, we had 2 confirmed towns and we killed talis.
If instead I had posted that all 3 of us were town and it turned up false, we would be in the exact same situation. We would lynch talis, and assuming he flipped non-town, it would give no information on either mine or drazerk's alignment.
Operating on the assumption that talis was not town, given how he was avoiding posting what I had asked, the statement tested was the best one to go for.
And yes, while none of the 3 of us are 100% confirmed, we are 95% town. So for your test of Talismania being scum, you use Drazerk?! Why not wait for someone who you actually have some conviction of being town to come on? Drazerk has self-proclaimed MULTIPLE times in the thread to not even have read his own role pm. This was a BAD use of that power and you SHOULD have thought it through more. Now back to hunting scum. At least I agree that if Drazerk knew he was scum, he would not have posted the first proposal for lie detecting, so at least we know that Drazerk is either town and messing with us, or has, in actual fact, not read his role pm. I read it a couple of pages back I am town
Shuddup. You're just confusing the issue more:
On June 19 2012 07:16 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:15 deconduo wrote:
I'm 99% sure Drazerk is town, there's no way a non-town would come out like that to try and get proven. If it comes back a lie it almost certainly means talis is town. If it comes back true, we lynch talis. You're aware I haven't read my role PM right?
You reading your role PM after the check tells us NOTHING about the check. You claiming to not have read your role PM when the check was made is more believable than this claim now.
However, thanks for stating you've now read your role PM and are claiming town. We can disregard everything before this as far as analysis is concerned and start from this point onwards. You basically wasted a day worth of filter on trolling.
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If he was scum he would have been getting angry PMs from his teammates before now.
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He could be SK or Assassin though
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EBWOP: I mean with regards to Drazerk. Everybody else's filter from N0 and D1 is still completely valid. Just Drazerk's says nothing about his alignment.
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On June 19 2012 08:09 Acrofales wrote:
EBWOP: I mean with regards to Drazerk. Everybody else's filter from N0 and D1 is still completely valid. Just Drazerk's says nothing about his alignment.
Now imagine that in the power of a scum player.
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On June 19 2012 08:00 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 07:56 talismania wrote:
Ok fine let's move on.
Deconduo, who should I shoot? KharadBanar -Scummy play with the House Chezinu stuff -Scummy play in the aftermath of the House Chezinu stuff -Puts a case against BioSC and proposes him as a lynch candidate, then votes for mazu -Then asks for Dropbear to be day vigged.
He's the safest shot, least likely to hit a townie anyway. If he's not scum then he's 3rd party.
We could hang him and try shooting someone else, but seeing as you have to shoot soon it's probably best to just play it safe.
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On June 19 2012 08:10 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2012 08:09 Acrofales wrote:
EBWOP: I mean with regards to Drazerk. Everybody else's filter from N0 and D1 is still completely valid. Just Drazerk's says nothing about his alignment. Now imagine that in the power of a scum player.
I did. I still want you dead.
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MajuGarzett come back!
I still need your opinion on KB and nisani, as well as anyone besides FourFace that you think is scum.
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The only way I can justify a KB shot is that I think his role PM might be fairly revealing. I'm not convinced at all that he's scum but he could be an interesting third party.
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Now I'm going to bed. I'll see who gets shot in the morning. Please shoot Maju or DropBear.
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