Bastard Mafia 2 - Page 4

On June 27 2012 16:27 xsksc wrote:

There now, that wasn't too hard. Doesn't it sound a whole lot better than this?

On June 28 2012 00:35 Acrofales wrote:
Deconduo, I still want to hear from you:

What does the former have to do with the latter? You think a roleblocker is more use than a DT?
Also, (I repeat from above):
lynching Hyaach gives us more information about the alignment of xsksc than lynching xsksc gives of Hyaach's alignment. If we're going to be stuck in lylo with one of them I'd rather it's xsksc.

So once again, how is lynching Hyaach more dangerous than lynching xsksc?

On June 27 2012 17:58 Acrofales wrote:

Let me nip this in the bud. How does your mind work. If xsksc is town then I am scum for pushing a lynch OFF him and onto a claimed 3rd party. Wait WHAT? Lets rewind that:

xsksc is town
Acro pushes the lynch from a townie to a 3rd party
Acro must be scum

This is the most upside down, inside out, back to front reasoning in this thread so far. However, that's okay, because scum is allowed to do that (and then they get lynched for it). Here is you earlier:


Enter Talismania, who was the only one I trusted to make sense in this thread (Hiro makes sense, but is 3rd party. Drazerk is town, but doesn't make sense), who told you to read my filter. Instant 180º flip!


What has happened since then is that I have pushed a lynch on 3rd party for rather valid reasons. I was doubting the xsksc/Hyaach lynch (and still am, but recognize that at least one of them has to die before lylo) and started thinking about the lynch and alternatives to it. If I had thought things through about your claim earlier, I would probably have gone straight to you, but as it was, I figured we had two more lynches left before mylo. If we lynched a 3rd party, it would be lylo instead of mylo, but other than that nothing would change. The rest is explained multiple times in the thread.

However, lets go back to you. You want to lynch xsksc, because lynching a roleblocker is dangerous (despite the fact that it is doubtful that a roleblocker can stop KP: that only works if the scum is vanilla). I would argue that it's the other way round: you're scum and NOT lynching a DT is dangerous, especially if Hyaach is in fact a miller (information scum has, because they know xsksc and Hyaach are both town). Lynching Hyaach tells us for 100% sure whether xsksc was lying and is therefore scum. Lynching xsksc and him flipping town means Hyaach could still be a miller rather than scum, forcing a Hyaach lynch tomorrow and allowing scum-deconduo to get away scot free.

However, lynching Hyaach puts actual scum in a difficult spot. You are forced to kill the DT, because Hyaach flipping miller will make his claim believable (scum could not know he was a miller, just that he was town. It would be an extremely lucky lie and Ockham's razor rules it out). However, you don't want to kill xsksc the DT, because he is who you want to hedge your lylo against: having to lylo with Drazerk and me means you're dead.