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On June 19 2012 03:15 Drazerk wrote: You keep mentioning holy roman Read all my games Realize what meta is going to do for you Point me to a recent, relevant, game in which you were town. I have read WaW2 and you played very differently. For one, you were verbose and not posting irritating 1-liners. I have read Aperture, but you weren't town and were killed D1. So yeah, start pointing. Also, lets assume you're telling the truth and you haven't read your role PM. We know you're not the MA, because a king was chosen. If we assume the MA is town, that makes you by far the best option for a RNG policy lynch, because the odds of you being town are less than for anybody else. Given that you are ensuring that any read on you is about as useful as a RNG policy lynch on you would be, this is an excellent choice for us D1! Added bonus: we get rid of a confirmed troll, who is clearly not intending to contribute this game. | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:09 talismania wrote: People who should I shoot: Drazerk strongandbig Nisani201 deconduo FourFace ? Out of those? Drazerk or Nisani. Why aren't DropBear or Maju on your list? I will catch up to the rest of the thread a bit now. | ||
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On June 19 2012 03:27 Drazerk wrote: Well i'm never going to change my play style any time soon which is the mark of a good meta - one that is 100% the same as both scum and town Tell that to VE... or bluelightz, for that matter. | ||
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On June 19 2012 03:33 HiroPro wrote: We lynch people who are scum. Drazerk may be a troll but I agree with most of his reads, and he is clearly reading and giving out his opinions. Wait. What reads? You mean this: On June 19 2012 02:16 Drazerk wrote: Scum ET DB FF BSC (KB) Third party S+B Maju 201 (KB) Null Acro Hiro Dec xsksc Hyaach This is not reads, this is looking through the thread and having a modicum of skill in picking up who looks scummy and who doesn't. This kind of post is a dime a dozen for scum. Other than that, what reads are you referring to? | ||
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On June 19 2012 03:39 HiroPro wrote: I made the case on Maju lol. I've read his filter; but he responded okay to me, and I think it's more likely that he's a survivor than scum. And we played together in MTG. That's not the way you're playing this game. I have no idea how Maju plays as town, but his defense to you was not decent. It gave a rather thin explanation for why he fired off questions at night, but he failed to do anything useful. Maju is looking scummy to me. | ||
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On June 19 2012 04:46 HiroPro wrote: When you're not explaining anything, when you refuse to make proper reads, when you advocate scum positions, when you lightly defend yourself without saying anything, I call that being scum. Because this is clearly not the way you play as town. But Maju did all of those (except really advocate scum positions... he didn't make enough posts to do that), yet you're saying he's survivor. How does that work? | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:21 talismania wrote: It's ok I guess I don't expect you to claim. But what's this extra win extra loss stuff? I don't see how you can extra lose. Can you give us a hint as to your various wincons? I can extra lose too. I will not go into any details. | ||
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That's okay. I want to shoot you too. I have caught up on the thread and like both of our lynch candidates. I just want to add Drazerk in there. No time to make a case with quotes from him, but here's the reasons: 1. His play is disruptive. This may be useful in the beginning (forcing people to post, which may or may not be useful, depending on content), but it is terrible as the game goes on. 2. He is trying to shut down useful discussion on a number of occasions (mainly the ET-Maju-HiroPro debate) 3. He claims not to have read his role PM, which I don't believe. Of course, Drazerk is notorious for lying about game mechanics (or meta game mechanics in this case), but in this case I think it's a scummy thing to do. As a final extra: Drazerk is more dangerous as scum than he is useful as town (insofar as I can figure out from WaW2, the only town game I have seen from him). Killing him is unlikely to hurt us. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:56 talismania wrote: Can I have people's reads/opinions/impressions of strongandbig? Leaning vaguely towards town on him. No strong read, though. | ||
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On June 19 2012 05:58 Drazerk wrote: I think he has a seperate win con to murder someone I think this is the same win con that 201 / Acro has I can ONLY win with town. I can lose with town... and additionally I can lose if something bad happens. No clue what Nisani's extra wincon is. | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:02 Drazerk wrote: And this is where my current theory is coming in What's your current theory? | ||
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That was Talismania's. Mind putting it in your own words? I disagree with Talismania (and deconduo). I think it *might* be something similar, but the devil is in the details. | ||
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On June 19 2012 06:27 Drazerk wrote: You have to murder someone to not lose 201 has to murder someone to not lose and has to keep someone else alive to win S+B = 201 I don't have to murder anybody to not lose. | ||
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Other than that his filter is lacking scumhunting, but it makes a lot of sense. It is not at all like his filter in Spaceship, where he went into hardcore lurker mode at the start of D1 and never posted anything of use ever. | ||
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We COULD have used that to get like 3 or 4 confirmed town there. Or to get a clear red check on 1 person. However, instead we learned fuckall, unless Talismania is actually scum. If Tali flips scum, then either Drazerk or deconduo is also scum, but out of all possible ways that post could be made a lie, Tali being scum is currently looking like the least likely one to me. | ||
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Drazerk is either dumb or scum and Deconduo is either dumb or scum Out of these I think Drazerk is scum Deconduo is dumb are the correct options. | ||
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