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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 11 2012 12:54 GMT
#29
Not entirely sure I have the time for this, but what the hell!

/in

Also, substitute this for your own
comment about how much fun this game will be
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 11:42 GMT
#77
I say we lynch 4F for twisting Forumite's arm!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 11:52 GMT
#79
Policy lynch 4F for suggesting bad policies!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 11:59 GMT
#81
On June 16 2012 20:57 Drazerk wrote:
Policy 2 minute shot on both of you?

Pffft, I am NEVER trusting you again!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 14:20 GMT
#88
Lynch me and you lynch a townie. I think that is abundantly clear. The only reason to want to lynch me is because you're scum!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 17:20 GMT
#95
I don't have my role PM yet, but I will go out in public and say that I am 3rd party! My win condition is to kill Fourface! All town should have that same wincon as he's clearly scum. Look at this:

[image loading]

And that is just two-face. Double that up and you have a serious villain on your hands. Forget about Drazerk. He's just a Crazed Neutral Balrog Fool from the Wiener Confederation. We can deal with him later.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 17:21 GMT
#96
^^^^^^ Posted before I get my role PM. Will shut up now til night post.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 17:52 GMT
#107
On June 17 2012 02:34 Zephirdd wrote:
"OHHHH do we get to wear cool suits?" The same annoying thing asked.
"No"


I just wanted to point out that I was that annoying thing... and the box lied. I have a cool suit and will post photos for anybody crazy enough to ask.

Also, if House Chezinu is promoting VE they are clearly not town.
##nuke: House Chezinu
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 18:33 GMT
#122
On June 17 2012 02:44 HiroPro wrote:
Correction: All applications must be submitted to the Bastard Moderators via PM with the subject "House Chezinu, 5th Party Application".


I strongly urge everybody to spam the mods with crap like this.

PS. 6th party House "HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES" is now also accepting applications. Benefits are the same as for joining House Chezinu and the application process is similar. Please send Zephirdd a PM with the subject "House HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES, 6th party Application", containing a long wall of text cleverly written so the first letter of each sentence spells "prince of bell air".

PPS. The board of directors of House "HAHA NOT CHEZINU BIATCHES" is not responsible for any actions of its potential members and wants to excuse itself to Zephirdd and other mods for any potential harm come from this post.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 19:04 GMT
#141
Shame we're not allowed to completely break this game It's okay, though, I don't need encryption for my wincon. I win when all anti-town elements are dead!

I have no strange wincon requiring me to keep people alive, and/or ensure people are dead (other than all anti-town people of course), as was the case in Bastard Mafia I. My wincon is completely normal.

That said, I am hereby declaring myself at war with House Chezinu. I think House Chezinu has some distinctive anti-town elements to it and we should eradicate it from the face of the earth.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 19:17 GMT
#148
On June 17 2012 04:13 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:04 KharadBanar wrote:
On June 17 2012 03:58 MajuGarzett wrote:
On June 17 2012 03:55 HiroPro wrote:
On June 17 2012 03:52 MajuGarzett wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 17 2012 03:29 HiroPro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 03:18 MajuGarzett wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On June 17 2012 02:41 HiroPro wrote:
House Chezinu, 5th Party Recruitment


[image loading]

Welcome everyone. This is the Director of Recruitment at House Chezinu speaking. Due to recent personnel shortages, we are now conducting a recruitment drive. Anyone who is a player in this game may join (excepting any and all self-identified House Chezinu enemies). To complete your application, you must go through three simple steps.

    1. Claim your role name
    2. Claim any and all powers, abilities, restrictions, or requirements that you possess
    3. Claim your win condition


All members of House Chezinu must also swear loyalty to all board members, whose names (excepting for mine) will be revealed at a later time.

Remember, the benefits are numerous, the downsides non-existent. Join House Chezinu, 5th Party and reap the rewards immediately.

All applications must be submitted by Sunday, Jun 17 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).

What exactly are the benefits of House Chezinu?


House Chezinu supports its own at all times, especially at times of lynching. In times of plenty, members of House Chezinu, 5th Party will receive monetary compensation. Access to the Knowledge Archives is also permitted (with certain information restricted to board members).

If all it does is support members in lynches is there really any difference between joining House Chezinu and forming an alliance?



In times of plenty, members of House Chezinu, 5th Party will receive monetary compensation. Access to the Knowledge Archives is also permitted (with certain information restricted to board members).

Additionally, alliance support is not absolute. It is merely a recognizance of no open hostilities between House Chezinu, 5th Party and said allied party.

Who are the board members other than yourself? What are the knowledge archives?
If House Chezinu wants members it should release all pertinent information.

If you read HiroPro's posts explaining how House Chezinu operates, you will come to the realisation that this isn't exactly going to happen. If they would tell you everything right from the get-go, they would lose some leverage after all because you don't need to join their organisation to get all that info, no? Everything comes at a price, and you as a Mafia player should be able to understand that.
By the way, the reason I am hesitant to give my roleclaim to them is that I Do Not Want potential scum members of the House to see my role. This should go for every townie: If you join The House and a scum member sees your role because of it, you are giving information to the whole scum team. The scum team operates on an information advantage already, and there is no need to let them get further ahead. So don't do it unless you have a good reason.


Allied Party KharadBanar, are you indicating that you believe MajuGarzett to be a member of the mafia?

Also, the board members of House Chezinu, 5th Party are not scum.

How do you know that and why should we believe you?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 19:41 GMT
#169
Yo Drazerk, want to roleclaim in the thread? I don't trust you on basic principle and you're bound to claim some outrageously ridiculous role. I want to see it before I decide whether you're worth lynching over House Chezinu.

@HiroPro: ignoring me is dumb. I have legitimate concerns about you and House Chezinu and I feel your play is screwing up this game in a way that can only benefit scum (or, as the mods are phrasing it, anti-town).

You claim 5th party, which almost by definition is not town. You are also claiming a mysterious board of directors who you are unwilling to talk about, yet are convinced are town. I have a far simpler solution: Chezinu is scum and the board of directors is whoever else is chatting to Hiro in ScumQT.

Just another question: how many directors are there on your so-called board of directors?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 19:45 GMT
#173
On June 17 2012 04:43 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:41 Acrofales wrote:
Yo Drazerk, want to roleclaim in the thread? I don't trust you on basic principle and you're bound to claim some outrageously ridiculous role. I want to see it before I decide whether you're worth lynching over House Chezinu.

@HiroPro: ignoring me is dumb. I have legitimate concerns about you and House Chezinu and I feel your play is screwing up this game in a way that can only benefit scum (or, as the mods are phrasing it, anti-town).

You claim 5th party, which almost by definition is not town. You are also claiming a mysterious board of directors who you are unwilling to talk about, yet are convinced are town. I have a far simpler solution: Chezinu is scum and the board of directors is whoever else is chatting to Hiro in ScumQT.

Just another question: how many directors are there on your so-called board of directors?


You post slow


So do you, now answer the question. And yes, I read where you said you didn't read your role PM. I don't believe it.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 19:48 GMT
#177
On June 17 2012 04:45 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:45 Acrofales wrote:
On June 17 2012 04:43 Drazerk wrote:
On June 17 2012 04:41 Acrofales wrote:
Yo Drazerk, want to roleclaim in the thread? I don't trust you on basic principle and you're bound to claim some outrageously ridiculous role. I want to see it before I decide whether you're worth lynching over House Chezinu.

@HiroPro: ignoring me is dumb. I have legitimate concerns about you and House Chezinu and I feel your play is screwing up this game in a way that can only benefit scum (or, as the mods are phrasing it, anti-town).

You claim 5th party, which almost by definition is not town. You are also claiming a mysterious board of directors who you are unwilling to talk about, yet are convinced are town. I have a far simpler solution: Chezinu is scum and the board of directors is whoever else is chatting to Hiro in ScumQT.

Just another question: how many directors are there on your so-called board of directors?


You post slow


So do you, now answer the question. And yes, I read where you said you didn't read your role PM. I don't believe it.


Meh I play by my own rules anyway you should know this

Yeah, all the more reason not to trust you! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... yeah, you're scum until you flip otherwise.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 19:52 GMT
#181
On June 17 2012 04:48 KharadBanar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:43 talismania wrote:
HiroPro

What is your win condition?

Would me or anyone else joining your House of Chezinu help that win condition?

If so, how?

If not, then why are you asking people to join?

My win condition is to win when all anti-town forces are eliminated. Does me joining your House help that? Why or why not?

I don't think we can get much information out of The HOUSE anyway, for the aforementioned reasons (their only advantage is information, so they're not going to give it to us for free).
This in turn leads me to the opinion that Drazerk is very much right in ignoring The HOUSE for now. I will do so from now on (I'll not play against HiroPro or his faction since we are allies, but I'm not going to mention them too much in my posting) and I believe it is wise for you to do the same.

Hmmm, can you get any more wishywashy than this?

Drazerk has come to the conclusion, as have I, that Chezinu is most probably some flavour of scum. Anything to say on that account? Or are you happy to stay "allied" to them, which sounds an awful lot like "I don't want to have an opinion"... aka "I'm scum posting filler posts!!!"
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 20:12 GMT
#196
On June 17 2012 05:09 FourFace wrote:
We policy lynch everyone who said his win condition is to eliminate all anti-town players and those who will continue to say it or ask about win condition. And remember to drink some alcoholic beverage every time you read House what's its name.

I repeat:
On June 16 2012 20:52 Acrofales wrote:
Policy lynch 4F for suggesting bad policies!

Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 20:41 GMT
#207
On June 17 2012 05:31 KharadBanar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 05:28 MajuGarzett wrote:
On June 17 2012 05:24 KharadBanar wrote:
On June 17 2012 05:20 talismania wrote:
On June 17 2012 05:15 KharadBanar wrote:
[...]

By allying with The HOUSE, I essentially eliminate some of the players (both town and scum) from the equation and can concentrate on studying the remaining ones (which should contain both town and scum too, if my calculations are correct.)

[...]



What?

So now that you've magically allied - who has been eliminated from "the equation"?

If you're eliminating both town and scum by allying, how does that help your stated win condition? Why would you want to eliminate "both town and scum" from the players you are "concentrating on studying" in order to discern their alignment?

Think of the alliance as a temporary cooperative effort to eliminate scum players not participating in The HOUSE.

I am happy because we eliminate scum players, The HOUSE is happy because we eliminate non-HOUSE members.

When I grow suspicious there are no more non-HOUSE scum players in the game, I can cancel my cooperation with The HOUSE, and both parties are satisfied because of the mutual cooperation as long as the alliance lasted.

As a mere ally of THE HOUSE do you even get to know who the house members are? I was under the impression that THE HOUSE just wouldn't try to kill you.

I assume that if I cast doubt on a member of The HOUSE, HiroPro will alert me of it.
If not, that alliance has more benefits for me than for them, because he basically "promised" that The HOUSE will try not to interfere in my affairs.

Promises can be broken, though, and I know that I have to be careful in my alliance with them.

So in actual fact, what you're doing is accepting HiroPro making anybody he likes "untouchable" for you, in return for limited immunity. Lol, are you a serial killer or wtf?!

Drazerk: I oppose lynching Nisani. I want to lynch KB.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 21:23 GMT
#216
I'm not really convinced we found any scum yet. KB seems more 3rd party than scum, but he definitely doesn't sound townie. I haven't yet made up my mind on whether House Chezinu is neutral or anti-town. As Talismania pointed out, it is rather strange that HiroPro is not afraid of getting shot, so friendship with scum is likely.

I don't want to get into details at night, but there's some other weird stuff that we should talk about during the day.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 21:25 GMT
#217
EBWOP: either Chezinu is scum or HiroPro has some kind of protection. Both sound strange things to be claiming on N0.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18251 Posts
June 16 2012 22:11 GMT
#230
On June 17 2012 06:50 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 06:23 Acrofales wrote:
I'm not really convinced we found any scum yet. KB seems more 3rd party than scum, but he definitely doesn't sound townie. I haven't yet made up my mind on whether House Chezinu is neutral or anti-town. As Talismania pointed out, it is rather strange that HiroPro is not afraid of getting shot, so friendship with scum is likely.

I don't want to get into details at night, but there's some other weird stuff that we should talk about during the day.


Curious that you know you're going to survive the night.

This was considered a "scumslip" that killed my scumbuddy toad in Pick Your Poison.

In case you are town as you've said: post these details/weird stuff right on the deadline.

I don't feel like it. If I'm alive tomorrow we can talk about it, if not then you'll know I'm town because of my flip.

@HiroPro: what is this money you're talking about? I know nothing about it.
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