EPTAlso, being able to roleblock scum KP is automatic justification for a town roleblocker.
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Also, being able to roleblock scum KP is automatic justification for a town roleblocker. | ||
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On June 26 2012 02:31 Acrofales wrote: Okay. A miller roleblocker actually makes a lot of sense atm and I feel pretty badly atm about both an xskskc and a Hyaach lynch. On the other hand, I feel we can't go wrong on a ghost lynch. Prime thing that makes him scum: we KNOW hyaach is a roleblocker. We've been assuming scum held their KP, but what if ghost is simply a mafia goon and the roleblock STOPPED his KP. Even if that is what scum wants us to think, the WORST case scenario is that we lynch a 3rd party. Who cares? (except ghost himself) Ghost said he'd play townie, but has not been playing townie Roleblocking ghost had the effect of stopping mafia KP Lets lynch him! Stuck at the bottom of a page and I know nobody reads that shit (Mattchew told me) | ||
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It's not what deconduo wants. Tali hasn't made it completely clear yet what he wants. Drazerk is a mystery to all. | ||
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On June 26 2012 02:38 talismania wrote: Hmm I still doubt ghost is mafia goon because of maju's case on fourface being as strong as it was. The reason a NK was withheld was either to make ghost look bad, or because it didn't matter. Like, if it's a 1 on 1 between xsksc and hyaach and whoever's scum between them knows that, then they know the only way they have to win is to convince the third party players to join their side, and I think mathwise that happens tomorrow regardless of if they used a NK or not. The other possibility is that the NK was replaced by a traitor being recruited or something. Eh fuck too many possibilities. That scenario was not properly thought through. The math does not work out. | ||
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I have gone through all possibilities and it really made no sense for scum to withhold KP yesterday. My night plan was made in order to wifom scum into thinking it did and they *might* have fallen for it (I was hoping they did). However, if we assume scum can actually think things through for themselves, then they should know withholding KP was a bad move. | ||
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On June 26 2012 02:44 ghost_403 wrote: One of the greatest skills for scum to have is to get the ball rolling, then distance themselves from the mess that it causes. Hiro, if you're going to push my lynch, I fully expect you to own it. That only really works if the lynch is on a townie. Pushing a 3rd party (maybe scum) lynch as a claimed other 3rd party is hardly a scumtell. | ||
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That would be funny -- and bad play  One thing this game has taught me is the infinite amount of wifom that a kill-less night can create. Totally worth remembering: even if it's suboptimal play, it is optimal due to the derailment of town into wifomtopia.PS. I PREDICTED THIS: On June 23 2012 03:08 Acrofales wrote: That eliminates a number of scenarios. Lets go through the outcomes: 1. xllslsks says Hyaach is red and there is no NK: WIFOM central! Ignore everything and back to scumhunting | ||
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I don't think there's a framer, because then the OP is lying to us (once again), so we can tell xsksc who to check. My preference is for Drazerk or one of Hiro/SnB. Alternatively we can just have Hyaach roleblock xsksc, because who really cares about DT checks anyway? It might prevent KP again! | ||
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So. xsksc claimed a rolename that wasn't in a previous game on this forum. I think we're back to lynching him tomorrow  | ||
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On June 26 2012 03:52 deconduo wrote: You guys -_- Also now xsksc is the only one with a roleclaim that hasn't been in a previous TL mafia game. In what game was Pinkie Pie? | ||
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On June 26 2012 04:37 strongandbig wrote: Ummmmmmmm srsly? It was in my little pony mafia. I just used the TL search engine but restricted it to mafia subgroup. Okay. I didn't actually search for that one. I never heard of that game and knew it wasn't in any of the games I had taken a look at. | ||
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Also, @deconduo and Tali: I still insist the lynch wasn't bad. For myself, I was firmly stuck between xsksc and Hyaach as the last scum. There was a not-too-outside chance that ghost was scum and worst-case scenario was that we lynched a 3rd party. He was not helping us and just breezing by, so I don't feel bad for it. We got a LOT of information: we know for sure that scum was withholding KP. We also got the whole rolename deal, even if I don't buy it yet (find me professor badass, ezio auditorie and neutral balrog survivor). PS: I will accept my rolename with or without its typo | ||
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On June 26 2012 05:09 HiroPro wrote: I think iGrok claimed that he was a Neutral Surviving Balrog in either IRC or LoTR mafia. Professor Badass was the hydra name that Curu and Erandorr used in Election Mafia. I know that. Those aren't roles, though. I don't buy the theory. | ||
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On June 26 2012 05:47 strongandbig wrote: At this point you've crossed the line into willful ignorance. Lets just agree to disagree. I don't think you're right and I think it is a really fucked up reason to think someone's scummy. It's speculation about the mindset of the mod when he made the game. There's plenty of other reasons to suspect xsksc. I don't like Hyaach's absense at all either. xsksc: other than the red check, what makes Hyaach scum? Hyaach: what makes xsksc scum? Gogogo! | ||
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Circumstantial evidence: Pinkie Pie is not a role from "TL Mafia lore". It is a role from an obscure and forgotten game (which Forumite did play in). Similarly MA and AMA are not "TL Mafia lore", nor are they exact rolenames. They are just the two factions in LI, which happens to be a famous game for other reasons (VE vs. Toad and Mattchew endgaming everybody). I cannot find the SCUM rolecop anywhere at all either, btw. | ||
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Pros: if Hyaach is scum and wants to keep incriminating xsksc, he will hold his shot. Cons: if xsksc is town we miss out on a DT check. I think the pros outweigh the cons in this situation. | ||
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