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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 10 2012 21:24 GMT
#281
Alright so the case on Zen_Man

He is taking a firm stance on grush by voting for him, and has been consistent with his views on him as I see it. He does not provide any reasoning behind his suspicions, true. He really should have. That said, the reasons for grush's scummyness have been discussed quite a lot, and agreeing with them (parroting/bandwagoning) by itself is not dead red scummy. If he agrees, he agrees. As far as his exaggerations, I feel this is under the OMGUS umbrella as well. The bottom line is I see fledgling efforts to hunt scum, and I want to see more. As of right now, he wouldn't draw my vote.
ATOBTTR
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
June 10 2012 21:24 GMT
#282
EBWOP: Well looks like I got ninja'ed out
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
June 10 2012 21:27 GMT
#283
On June 11 2012 06:24 s0Lstice wrote:
Alright so the case on Zen_Man

He is taking a firm stance on grush by voting for him, and has been consistent with his views on him as I see it. He does not provide any reasoning behind his suspicions, true. He really should have. That said, the reasons for grush's scummyness have been discussed quite a lot, and agreeing with them (parroting/bandwagoning) by itself is not dead red scummy. If he agrees, he agrees. As far as his exaggerations, I feel this is under the OMGUS umbrella as well. The bottom line is I see fledgling efforts to hunt scum, and I want to see more. As of right now, he wouldn't draw my vote.


s0Lstice are you sure? I noticed a small inconsistency in that he "defended" grush by trying to get Release to lay off him. Then, he ends up voting for grush without much significant analysis.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
June 10 2012 21:28 GMT
#284
On June 11 2012 06:23 grush57 wrote:
Yea if Ha flips red then it is either Zen man or KtheZ.


Grush, you've already been attacked numerous times for your short posts without explications of your thought processes.

Can you for once post something that is based on something visible? It would be nice if we knew the connection you see between Ha2, Zen and KtheZ. Don't forget you're still on the towns' list for your 'bad habits', whether knowingly or not.
Right now someone could attack this statement of yours and you could post ANYTHING to justify it. You're intransparent. And I'd lynch you over ha2 anytime, just so you know.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 10 2012 21:50 GMT
#285
So far we have me voting for The_Zen_Man. Vivax says he is wiling to lynch him if there is a possibility. Kthez placed FoS at him saying that he wasn't sure if he thinks Zen is scum or not. On the other hand he says he isn't sure on Ha236 either. I take this as he is willing to swap his vote. I guess Ha236 would also be willing to swap his vote. Thus there are already 4 persons willing to lynch him. Only s0lstice says that he is opposing to a Zen_Man lynch. So I'd say it's still possible as we only need to convince one more out of the three who is yet to decide what they think.
ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 10 2012 21:51 GMT
#286
Oh well guys, looks like I'm done for. When you realize you've made the wrong decision consider my posts about Release and s0Lstice and their flawed logic trying to trick you all.
snälla pappa haga mig inte i pannan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
June 10 2012 21:57 GMT
#287
I think we still have one hour to change things, if anyone got a good case it would be best to pull it out NOW. Vote switches in the last 30 minutes might end badly for town.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 10 2012 22:00 GMT
#288
@Vivax: My intention to stop the pressure from grush was under the assumptions that he might then proceed to actually post something worthwhile with his time freed from defending himself. Sadly not the case here, but he is so discredited it won't take too much effort to lynch him should the need arise again.
The case on ha236 rests differently. He begins kind of okayish for a townie with some remakrs by me and other around his post under the resulting pressure his play continues to detoriate so I would say that he is a okay lynch for day1.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 22:02 GMT
#289
On June 11 2012 06:51 ha236 wrote:
Oh well guys, looks like I'm done for. When you realize you've made the wrong decision consider my posts about Release and s0Lstice and their flawed logic trying to trick you all.

Nice defeatist attitude there.

The Zen man looks like scum. Vivax made nice analysis of that. I'll keep my vote on ha for the time being but if we need majority, i'll be willing to vote zen.

If either of zen or ha don't turn out to be scum, we can lynch grush. Grush is so easy to lynch, i don't think we need to worry about him at this moment.

☺
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 10 2012 22:07 GMT
#290
EBWOP: I obviously meant "pressure on grush" >_>
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1832 Posts
June 10 2012 22:08 GMT
#291
We do have an hour or so. I'm not loving my vote on ha236 anymore. If we want to vote for Zen_Man I will switch.

Something that has been bugging me about ha236 is that he has been constant in his defense of Grush, he even doubled down. I find it difficult to believe that a scum ha236 would attract attention by tying himself to one of the most controversial people in the thread. He could have just as easily went after a grush57 lynch, it would have been easy.

Very few other people have agreed with me on him as well. I think it would be prudent to go elsewhere.

## Unvote

ATOBTTR
ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 10 2012 22:10 GMT
#292
On June 11 2012 07:02 Release wrote:

If either of zen or ha don't turn out to be scum, we can lynch grush. Grush is so easy to lynch, i don't think we need to worry about him at this moment.



It's funny how Release is not the least bit concerned about being lynched himself. I've posted several remarks on his play and gotten no substansial answers, rather he tries to mislead others on to bandwagoning Grush and I.
snälla pappa haga mig inte i pannan
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 10 2012 22:12 GMT
#293
On June 11 2012 07:10 ha236 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2012 07:02 Release wrote:

If either of zen or ha don't turn out to be scum, we can lynch grush. Grush is so easy to lynch, i don't think we need to worry about him at this moment.



It's funny how Release is not the least bit concerned about being lynched himself. I've posted several remarks on his play and gotten no substansial answers, rather he tries to mislead others on to bandwagoning Grush and I.


Maybe call me stupid for doing this but his play is incredibly similar to the last game I played with him, in which he was town, and as long as he does not give me cause for doubt I'll be sticking with a "townie-metaread" on him.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 10 2012 22:15 GMT
#294
Ha236, just vote Zen_Man at this point. There is no reason for you not to Lol.

So now we have 3 people saying that they are willing to vote for Zen. With the help of Ha236 that gives us 5. Let's kill this scum now, shall we?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 10 2012 22:16 GMT
#295
EBWOP s0listice just posted. 4 people willing to vote Zen_Man!
ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 10 2012 22:18 GMT
#296
On June 11 2012 07:15 Lazermonkey wrote:
Ha236, just vote Zen_Man at this point. There is no reason for you not to Lol.

So now we have 3 people saying that they are willing to vote for Zen. With the help of Ha236 that gives us 5. Let's kill this scum now, shall we?


Seems like I have nothing to lose.

##Unvote
##Vote: The_Zen_Man
snälla pappa haga mig inte i pannan
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22043 Posts
June 10 2012 22:20 GMT
#297
I've got the vote for Zen_Man ready, I'll give him about 30 minutes more time to post a defense, then I will proceed to vote for him.

We have a majority on him, that's for sure. I think even 6, not 5. Count me in in case he doesn't post a nukeproof defense.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 10 2012 22:29 GMT
#298
Can we have another votecount?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 22:33 GMT
#299
i think 3 on ha, and 2 on zenman at the moment.
☺
The_Zen_Man
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden202 Posts
June 10 2012 22:35 GMT
#300
Seems like people are going to change their vote for me. I dont really know where all of this suddenly comes from. I know i haven't posted a analysis on grush, but this whole thing with Lazermonkey has taken all my time. I planned to do it, but have just had less time for this than i had hoped.

When i flip town, please go after Lazermonkey

Lazermonkey have tunneled me for a long time now, and is for some reason dead set on lynching me. I think he is trying to get a mislynch for mafia, and when i flip town he will go like "Oh, damn. Well it's not my fault, he sounded really scummy to me." This will give mafia a free kill without putting their member Lazermonkey at risk.

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