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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 15 2012 19:08 GMT
#721
Part of my strategy in Storm was HOPING scum shot me so I knew who was scum by the people pushing me irrationally.

I'm one of 3 people who have won as SK on this site gonzaw - Wiggles is another. I'd tread carefully before using WIFOM about what an SK would do. :/
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 15 2012 19:12 GMT
#722
But this is a mini, it's more easy to determine who the SK is if there is no night kill (by determining who scum may have shot) since there are less players and we have more "interactive reads" in a way (as in, we have pretty concrete thoughts about each of us, it's not like we think "Oh X is a lurker I have no idea what he is I didn't even read his filter yet", we already filtered each other plenty of times and have an idea of who might get shot).

Well....okay I won't assume anything then (at least until there isn't a night kill or we lynch a scum)
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 15 2012 19:13 GMT
#723
On June 16 2012 03:55 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 01:17 GreYMisT wrote:
Wiggles worries me, VE, and I actually also get the feeling gonzaw is the SK (I think i mentioned this earlier). Dont have too much behind it, but i imagine the SK this game would be completley unafraid of death, allowing him to appear as townie as possible. Couple this with the fact that gonzaw has tried to start SK hunts, meaning it would be less likely he would be singled out as one if he were leading the charge.

Radfield strikes me as town, as does VE. As aforementioned Gonzaw is either town or the SK. BB is more town to me than wiggles, who is moderatly scummy to me. Chaoser is a mystery to me, prp will have to do really good tomorrow. Palmar worries me. People have mentioned his lackluster cases today, and I agree. The palmar I am used to seeing completely dominates the game, has very strong opinions, and gets his way. This palmar is not only completley different, but different in a scummy way.


Although I like people thinking I'm SK for now (hopefully scum don't shoot me tonight because of it ), I don't think the SK would be too confident in being "invincible" at night, since if he's too pro-town there's like 80% chance scum will shoot him at night, revealing his identity to them.


"Wiggles worries me"
"Chaoser is a mystery to me"
"Palmar worries me"


So.....anything conclusive to say? At least from gut feeling?

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 19:08 Radfield wrote:
Gonzaw, I think you're grasping at straws with the Greymist thing.


Do you think Greymist is town?


What do you people think about lynching Wiggles tomorrow?


You seemed to fail to read what came after "Palmar worries me"
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 15 2012 19:18 GMT
#724
That's not conclusive, I didn't see you calling him scum.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#725
On June 16 2012 04:18 gonzaw wrote:
That's not conclusive, I didn't see you calling him scum.


I said he was different "IN A SCUMMY WAY." God you're getting old
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
June 15 2012 20:32 GMT
#726
Yeah Gonzaw, I think Greymist looks ok. His early game play had me leaning scum, but his play and reasoning over the last cycle have been sound. I meant to take a closer look at him this morning, as it was late last night when I filtered him. I'll check him again, and make a more informed decision.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 15 2012 20:39 GMT
#727
What do you think of Wiggles then? Would you be willing to lynch him tomorrow or you'd prefer a Palmar/prplhz lynch or something?
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 15 2012 22:49 GMT
#728
If the post is a bit late, im in a lol game.

Still 1:10 until day
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 15 2012 22:56 GMT
#729
On June 16 2012 07:49 iGrok wrote:
If the post is a bit late, im in a lol game.

Still 1:10 until day


Are you Ezreal?
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 15 2012 23:27 GMT
#730
On June 16 2012 07:56 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 07:49 iGrok wrote:
If the post is a bit late, im in a lol game.

Still 1:10 until day


Are you Ezreal?

I cannot fucking wait.
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 15 2012 23:33 GMT
#731
Woot only 1 hour?

lol haven't even read filters yet


Fuck my homework has to wait
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 15 2012 23:34 GMT
#732
Wait...wait not 1 hour but 30 MINUTES!!!

Fuck
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 15 2012 23:59 GMT
#733
Posting just before day post so I don't cause WIFOM if I'm shot.
On June 16 2012 02:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 01:49 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:29 Radfield wrote:
I also think we need to set aside Chaoser from our lynch options right now. There is simply not enough information to base a case one way or the other. It's very possible he is scum, but if he isn't that leaves mafia a complete freebee, which we cannot afford to do.

This is wrong. There's definitely enough information on Chaoser to make a case. I don't understand what you're trying to get across here. He posted actively on Day 1, and that should be enough information to make a judgement call one way or the other. I don't like this cop-out. Unless prplhz comes in tomorrow playing as the towniest town who ever towned, he should hang.


He concurs as far as I can see Wiggles.

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 00:22 Radfield wrote:
On June 16 2012 00:08 VisceraEyes wrote:
prplhz you've come in to a pretty shady situation. chaoser was posting extremely suspiciously, and I was ready to switch off Hes to chaoser yesterday. You're going to have to bring the pain tonight (or tomorrow if you're alive) because I do NOT agree with Radfield...I think that given what we know, your slot has the greatest chance of flipping scum.


I agree with this. I was worried Chaoser wouldn't get replaced for a while, and then we would basically be lynching a lurker at lylo. This gives us plenty of time.

VE, what do you think of Palmar?


Care to give your thoughts on everyone but chaoser Wiggles? As far as I can see, if you're town you're a #1 priority night-hit since Rad/Palmar are aligning against each other...I'd really like you to comment on everyone in case you die.

I don't really want to post a list of reads, so I'm going to tell you who I think are scum. Right now, I think Chaoser/prplhz is scum based on his play. I don't care if he went inactive, and prplhz's posting hasn't exactly inspired me to think he's town yet. I'm not sure exactly who his team mate is, and would rather just lynch him first than divide my pressure across multiple people. That said, he comes out of the pool of Palmar/Rad/BB, as I feel good about you and Gonzaw right now. After Chaoser flips red, I'd go through those and figure out which one is scum with him.

As for GreYMist, he's actually fitting how I think the SK would be acting right now. He's not pushing people enough to really warrant a scum shot, and he's not scummy enough to be the top lynch. Overall, his posting has felt rather forgettable. That's my feeling from a cursory read through, but I'd rather go after mafia than SK hunt right now, because that's going to be somewhat harder to actually make a case about and then convince people.
you gotta dance
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 16 2012 00:01 GMT
#734
Okay, I had to skim filters and shit since I didn't have the time.

About Radfield:
I'll still bet he's town (I stand by what I said in that "Rad defense" post earlier). I've skimmed his filter again and I just can't get a scum vibe off him. I was getting suspicious of him because he didn't make those "giant cases that nail scum" posts and didn't seem confident in pursuing anybody in particular (like he is in games he plays as town).
However, I remember I was convinced he was scum in "I am a cop you idiot!" Mafia exactly for the same reason: he seemed too careful the whole game, was wishy-washy about some people and not extremely confident.
He flipped town that game, and just like this game he lived pretty far (until N2 or N3 I think).

I guess the same thing is happening to him this game, scum are just playing very good and he doesn't really have an idea of what's going on, so he is trying to do whatever he can.

Yeah I think that's most probably the case, he should not get lynched tomorrow under any circumstances (it's LYLO remember?)

About VE:

Yeah he's very likely town, cba to post reasons (and I don't have time )

About BB:

Shit don't have the time to reread his filter again. I'll just take that bet from before and assume he's town for the moment (for those reasons I said earlier, and his behavior on D2 as well.....although now that Hes flipped scum I'm not so convinced, but well whatever)

About Palmar:

Gut instinct tells me he's not town, he could be the SK/scum substitute of chaoser/Greymist.
His play reminds me of Liar Game in a way, he was very apparent townie on D1 and N1, coming up with plans, being confident, not seeming to push a scum agenda and just acting like normal Palmar.
But in Liar Game as time went on he just stopped being active and a force in town and basically disappeared, ocassionally posting his thoughts and then disappearing again.
I get the feeling he might be doing the same here, I don't see a reason for a Town Palmar to drop his level of play at this time, even though I get a town read off him when I reread his D1 filter.

Of course he still thinks I'm scum and hasn't done shit, and I think Rad's find about Palmar subtly hinting Hes was town or something is kind of incriminating as well.

About Wiggles:


He just made idle chat about the RNG bits (and I already mentioned why I got a red flag from one of his posts there).
He also likes to make GIGANTIC posts full of fluff. Like really there was a post of his with like 10000 lines that discussed his stance on RNG and didn't bring anything new or interesting to the table.

His activity is not consistent, he basically disappears for batches of time, then comes back and disappear again.
He spend almost 80% of his time pushing chaoser or talking about chaoser, nothing else.
Other than that he just mentioned Hesmyrr a little bit (in his "I'm keeping my eye on him" post, and then in the "He's my 2nd candidate I'll change my vote to him" post as well)

But again, then he just tunnels chaoser and nothing else. Doesn't really comment on what's happening on the Hesmyrr vs Radfield discussion, he just points out he still wants to lynch chaoser and Hes is his 2nd choice for a lynch, doesn't really bring anything new to the table regarding the argument and doesn't comment on anything else.

He doesn't really take a strong stance on Palmar, Radfield, BB or others, and it appears to me he doesn't even care about it or something, his #1 purpose in life is to lynch chaoser and then the rest of the world could burn if it were for him.

Yeah I'm running out of time so I'd say lynch Wiggles tomorrow.


About Grey/chaoser:

Hell whatever I don't have time I'd say Grey is more scummy than chaoser...but I guess I can trust Radfield on this one (I'd like him to post a more thorough reasoning on why Grey is town though, like why he's all wishy-washy and doesn't seem to care, etc).

I guess chaoser could be SK like I said, I don't really think he's scum, but well I could be wrong. Prplhz's 1st post wasn't pretty good either.


Whatever if I die I'd recommend you guys lynch Wiggles, but keep Palmar/chaoser/Grey as alternatives and see how it unfolds.


Fuck fuck it's already deadline fuck.

Yeah hopefully scum think I'm SK and don't shoot me....this has been the longest I've been alive as town yet (I was alive until D2 in LI, but as soon as N2 started the game ended in draw (thanks to Mattchew ), so yeah living until the end of N2 is the longest I've lived in a TL game as town).

So yeah, let's see, hopefully they shoot the SK or something (I doubt it though).
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 16 2012 00:04 GMT
#735
Still in game... maximum of 15 minutes left
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 16 2012 00:06 GMT
#736
EBWOP:

[quote].although now that Hes flipped town I'm not so convinced, but well whatever)[quote]
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 16 2012 00:06 GMT
#737
EBWOP:

Fuck

.although now that Hes flipped town I'm not so convinced, but well whatever)

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
June 16 2012 00:07 GMT
#738
Go for the backdoor and win now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
June 16 2012 00:08 GMT
#739
So, until iGrok finishes his lol game....we shouldn't talk or anything right? Like in LIII?
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
June 16 2012 00:09 GMT
#740
right
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