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Oh so I see BB made a "case" right after I left >_>
+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 05:33 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 05:17 gonzaw wrote:
@BB: You've read the rest of the game right? What are your thoughts on grey, MZ, and Wiggles, and why would you want to lynch Palmar instead of those 3?
Why do you find Palmar suspicious because of some stupid RNG thing? Why don't you look at the cases that have been brought up in the thread?
You were the one that wanted to "spark discussion", yet now you are dampering it by continuing to argue about some useless RNG thing
I'll change my vote to you until then:
##Unvote: Greymist
##Vote: BrownBear You see, I'm not dampering discussion. I'm pointing out that Palmar is. I'm not sure why you don't understand this. Let me throw up a few examples. Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 06:14 Palmar wrote:
Just for the record, I think MZ failed already and I'd be willing to lynch him.
Piggybacking on Greymist's thoughts on RNG to express your own thoughts while making sure you're not the original argument for the idea is terrible.
Let's do this. Post contributes nothing. Great, MZ "failed" by agreeing with Greymist? How about you explain some more exactly why and how he failed? How about you provide a logical, well constructed argument about why Greymist and MZ are "wrong" rather than just say "welp, they don't agree with me, they fail, LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH". So instead of complaining about it, why don't you change it bro? Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 01:42 Palmar wrote:
I would have to re-read chaoser to form an opinion on him, Radfield has been fairly towny which is why I was annoyed at him for being thick. Too many people are just content with not doing anything though. "Thick" is not an accusation many would say about Radfield, particularly players who have actually played with him. There's a reason scum target him early on rather than let him play entire games. I think he's just as confused as I am - he wants to know your reasoning for supporting RNGs. I do too. Let's hear them? Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 02:03 Palmar wrote:
a) screw you for suggesting I'm not playing
b) I'm perfectly aware what you were responding to, that doesn't make what I said untrue. This is the response of someone who's actually worried that they look like they aren't playing. If Palmar were playing and were secure in this fact, why wouldn't he just link to a bunch of his earlier posts where he was playing and contributing? That would be a much more airtight defense than a simple "screw you". Also, Palmar's too smart to mistake the volume of posts he's posted for actual, meaningful contribution. He's posted like 25 times: I count maybe 2 or 3 of those that are actually useful to town. This is a classic scum tactic (I used it in Mafia XXX, if you're curious) where volume makes a player look active, while clever words or subtle rehashes of earlier topics disguise the fact that none of the posts have much meaningful substance to them. Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 03:45 Palmar wrote:On June 12 2012 02:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 12 2012 02:03 Palmar wrote:
a) screw you for suggesting I'm not playing
b) I'm perfectly aware what you were responding to, that doesn't make what I said untrue. lol what you said is untrue. Direct quote: Now, about VisceraEyes, there isn't a case against him yet . So does hesmyrr not count? I await with baited breath for you to explain to me how it doesn't count... probably should add in a reference to how stupid I am as well eh? When I say "there isn't a case on X" it means that I don't think there is a valid case to be put forth against that person. For example BrownBear and Ace, while both completely fucking useless so far in the game, neither has a valid case against him. That won't change even if some internet warrior writes a "case" on them. Direct attack on me and Ace aside, isn't the point of mafia to build cases on people? A weak case is still a case, saying it isn't is stifling town discussion. If you think a case is weak, rather than dismiss it out of hand, you should maybe point out the weaknesses in it or the holes in logic. This builds town cohesion and stronger cases. Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 03:47 Palmar wrote:On June 12 2012 02:48 gonzaw wrote:
@Palmar: So, do you plan on commenting on this shit we've been doing these past few days or will you just try to live in your own little world up there?
Radfield is still disappeared...interesting. What is it that I should comment on? Can you stop being an asshole and acting as if I'm not playing the game wtf is this shit, I've commented on just about everyone and everything in the game, why do people keep saying I'm not playing. fuck off. Direct attack against another town player (gonzaw) trying to shut down a valid point: Palmar ISN'T PLAYING THIS GAME. He's trying to appear that he is, and he's trying to tie up town conversations he doesn't like by directly flaming the people making them, but he is not contributing anything meaningful of his own. Now, some people may say "oh, that's how Palmar plays lol" but that shouldn't be acceptable. Like I said earlier - his behavior is a cancer to the town. We need to either cut it out or ignore it.
How do you know I'm town?
BrownBear, you say Palmar's behaviour is "cancerous to town". Yeah it may be.
However, do you think he's scum or not?
I don't think I remember you explicitly saying you thought Palmar was scum/SK.
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Not a huge fan of the way day 1 was handled. And I'm aware its my fault too.
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Greymist, what's your take in this whole situation?
On June 12 2012 07:30 GreYMisT wrote:
Ok caught up, and have a few things. I Don't like the case on Palmar right now. And the case on BrownBear by Gonzaw amounts to him being abscent, absent BB said he would be due to no internet. With Wiggles gone due to exams or something (hasnt been on steam either so he really has been gone) I still feel my lynch today rests with MZ.
I know your vote on Ace was "phony"....but do you actually think he's town for not including him in that list of lynch candidates you did?
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On June 12 2012 08:28 gonzaw wrote:Oh so I see BB made a "case" right after I left >_> + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 05:33 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 05:17 gonzaw wrote:
@BB: You've read the rest of the game right? What are your thoughts on grey, MZ, and Wiggles, and why would you want to lynch Palmar instead of those 3?
Why do you find Palmar suspicious because of some stupid RNG thing? Why don't you look at the cases that have been brought up in the thread?
You were the one that wanted to "spark discussion", yet now you are dampering it by continuing to argue about some useless RNG thing
I'll change my vote to you until then:
##Unvote: Greymist
##Vote: BrownBear You see, I'm not dampering discussion. I'm pointing out that Palmar is. I'm not sure why you don't understand this. Let me throw up a few examples. Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 06:14 Palmar wrote:
Just for the record, I think MZ failed already and I'd be willing to lynch him.
Piggybacking on Greymist's thoughts on RNG to express your own thoughts while making sure you're not the original argument for the idea is terrible.
Let's do this. Post contributes nothing. Great, MZ "failed" by agreeing with Greymist? How about you explain some more exactly why and how he failed? How about you provide a logical, well constructed argument about why Greymist and MZ are "wrong" rather than just say "welp, they don't agree with me, they fail, LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH". So instead of complaining about it, why don't you change it bro? Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 01:42 Palmar wrote:
I would have to re-read chaoser to form an opinion on him, Radfield has been fairly towny which is why I was annoyed at him for being thick. Too many people are just content with not doing anything though. "Thick" is not an accusation many would say about Radfield, particularly players who have actually played with him. There's a reason scum target him early on rather than let him play entire games. I think he's just as confused as I am - he wants to know your reasoning for supporting RNGs. I do too. Let's hear them? Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 02:03 Palmar wrote:
a) screw you for suggesting I'm not playing
b) I'm perfectly aware what you were responding to, that doesn't make what I said untrue. This is the response of someone who's actually worried that they look like they aren't playing. If Palmar were playing and were secure in this fact, why wouldn't he just link to a bunch of his earlier posts where he was playing and contributing? That would be a much more airtight defense than a simple "screw you". Also, Palmar's too smart to mistake the volume of posts he's posted for actual, meaningful contribution. He's posted like 25 times: I count maybe 2 or 3 of those that are actually useful to town. This is a classic scum tactic (I used it in Mafia XXX, if you're curious) where volume makes a player look active, while clever words or subtle rehashes of earlier topics disguise the fact that none of the posts have much meaningful substance to them. Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 03:45 Palmar wrote:On June 12 2012 02:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 12 2012 02:03 Palmar wrote:
a) screw you for suggesting I'm not playing
b) I'm perfectly aware what you were responding to, that doesn't make what I said untrue. lol what you said is untrue. Direct quote: Now, about VisceraEyes, there isn't a case against him yet . So does hesmyrr not count? I await with baited breath for you to explain to me how it doesn't count... probably should add in a reference to how stupid I am as well eh? When I say "there isn't a case on X" it means that I don't think there is a valid case to be put forth against that person. For example BrownBear and Ace, while both completely fucking useless so far in the game, neither has a valid case against him. That won't change even if some internet warrior writes a "case" on them. Direct attack on me and Ace aside, isn't the point of mafia to build cases on people? A weak case is still a case, saying it isn't is stifling town discussion. If you think a case is weak, rather than dismiss it out of hand, you should maybe point out the weaknesses in it or the holes in logic. This builds town cohesion and stronger cases. Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 03:47 Palmar wrote:On June 12 2012 02:48 gonzaw wrote:
@Palmar: So, do you plan on commenting on this shit we've been doing these past few days or will you just try to live in your own little world up there?
Radfield is still disappeared...interesting. What is it that I should comment on? Can you stop being an asshole and acting as if I'm not playing the game wtf is this shit, I've commented on just about everyone and everything in the game, why do people keep saying I'm not playing. fuck off. Direct attack against another town player (gonzaw) trying to shut down a valid point: Palmar ISN'T PLAYING THIS GAME. He's trying to appear that he is, and he's trying to tie up town conversations he doesn't like by directly flaming the people making them, but he is not contributing anything meaningful of his own. Now, some people may say "oh, that's how Palmar plays lol" but that shouldn't be acceptable. Like I said earlier - his behavior is a cancer to the town. We need to either cut it out or ignore it. How do you know I'm town? BrownBear, you say Palmar's behaviour is "cancerous to town". Yeah it may be. However, do you think he's scum or not? I don't think I remember you explicitly saying you thought Palmar was scum/SK.
I never did. I'm starting to think he's just BM-style town - annoying, misleading, and should be ignored.
However, a couple intentionally misleading things he's done still give me pause. But I'm much less convinced he's definitely red now that I'm less angry at him.
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And I don't know for sure you're town. I have a leaning green read on you. But why are YOU the one casting suspicion on your own green claim?
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On June 12 2012 08:52 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 08:28 gonzaw wrote:Oh so I see BB made a "case" right after I left >_> + Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 05:33 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 05:17 gonzaw wrote:
@BB: You've read the rest of the game right? What are your thoughts on grey, MZ, and Wiggles, and why would you want to lynch Palmar instead of those 3?
Why do you find Palmar suspicious because of some stupid RNG thing? Why don't you look at the cases that have been brought up in the thread?
You were the one that wanted to "spark discussion", yet now you are dampering it by continuing to argue about some useless RNG thing
I'll change my vote to you until then:
##Unvote: Greymist
##Vote: BrownBear You see, I'm not dampering discussion. I'm pointing out that Palmar is. I'm not sure why you don't understand this. Let me throw up a few examples. Show nested quote +On June 11 2012 06:14 Palmar wrote:
Just for the record, I think MZ failed already and I'd be willing to lynch him.
Piggybacking on Greymist's thoughts on RNG to express your own thoughts while making sure you're not the original argument for the idea is terrible.
Let's do this. Post contributes nothing. Great, MZ "failed" by agreeing with Greymist? How about you explain some more exactly why and how he failed? How about you provide a logical, well constructed argument about why Greymist and MZ are "wrong" rather than just say "welp, they don't agree with me, they fail, LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH". So instead of complaining about it, why don't you change it bro? Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 01:42 Palmar wrote:
I would have to re-read chaoser to form an opinion on him, Radfield has been fairly towny which is why I was annoyed at him for being thick. Too many people are just content with not doing anything though. "Thick" is not an accusation many would say about Radfield, particularly players who have actually played with him. There's a reason scum target him early on rather than let him play entire games. I think he's just as confused as I am - he wants to know your reasoning for supporting RNGs. I do too. Let's hear them? Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 02:03 Palmar wrote:
a) screw you for suggesting I'm not playing
b) I'm perfectly aware what you were responding to, that doesn't make what I said untrue. This is the response of someone who's actually worried that they look like they aren't playing. If Palmar were playing and were secure in this fact, why wouldn't he just link to a bunch of his earlier posts where he was playing and contributing? That would be a much more airtight defense than a simple "screw you". Also, Palmar's too smart to mistake the volume of posts he's posted for actual, meaningful contribution. He's posted like 25 times: I count maybe 2 or 3 of those that are actually useful to town. This is a classic scum tactic (I used it in Mafia XXX, if you're curious) where volume makes a player look active, while clever words or subtle rehashes of earlier topics disguise the fact that none of the posts have much meaningful substance to them. Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 03:45 Palmar wrote:On June 12 2012 02:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 12 2012 02:03 Palmar wrote:
a) screw you for suggesting I'm not playing
b) I'm perfectly aware what you were responding to, that doesn't make what I said untrue. lol what you said is untrue. Direct quote: Now, about VisceraEyes, there isn't a case against him yet . So does hesmyrr not count? I await with baited breath for you to explain to me how it doesn't count... probably should add in a reference to how stupid I am as well eh? When I say "there isn't a case on X" it means that I don't think there is a valid case to be put forth against that person. For example BrownBear and Ace, while both completely fucking useless so far in the game, neither has a valid case against him. That won't change even if some internet warrior writes a "case" on them. Direct attack on me and Ace aside, isn't the point of mafia to build cases on people? A weak case is still a case, saying it isn't is stifling town discussion. If you think a case is weak, rather than dismiss it out of hand, you should maybe point out the weaknesses in it or the holes in logic. This builds town cohesion and stronger cases. Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 03:47 Palmar wrote:On June 12 2012 02:48 gonzaw wrote:
@Palmar: So, do you plan on commenting on this shit we've been doing these past few days or will you just try to live in your own little world up there?
Radfield is still disappeared...interesting. What is it that I should comment on? Can you stop being an asshole and acting as if I'm not playing the game wtf is this shit, I've commented on just about everyone and everything in the game, why do people keep saying I'm not playing. fuck off. Direct attack against another town player (gonzaw) trying to shut down a valid point: Palmar ISN'T PLAYING THIS GAME. He's trying to appear that he is, and he's trying to tie up town conversations he doesn't like by directly flaming the people making them, but he is not contributing anything meaningful of his own. Now, some people may say "oh, that's how Palmar plays lol" but that shouldn't be acceptable. Like I said earlier - his behavior is a cancer to the town. We need to either cut it out or ignore it. How do you know I'm town? BrownBear, you say Palmar's behaviour is "cancerous to town". Yeah it may be. However, do you think he's scum or not? I don't think I remember you explicitly saying you thought Palmar was scum/SK. I never did. I'm starting to think he's just BM-style town - annoying, misleading, and should be ignored. However, a couple intentionally misleading things he's done still give me pause. But I'm much less convinced he's definitely red now that I'm less angry at him.
So why did you spend 100% of your time attacking him instead of actually finding scum to lynch?...... 
On June 12 2012 08:53 BrownBear wrote:
And I don't know for sure you're town. I have a leaning green read on you. But why are YOU the one casting suspicion on your own green claim?
What? How am I casting suspicion on me? And why would you care?
I am town, you said I was town. Therefore your assertion was correct.
My question: was how did you know that?
*pstt* *pstt* I was trying to figure out if you just scumslipped or if it was a simple mistake
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Another question:
Does any of you have an idea who the SK might be?
And is there any subtle difference in scum behaviour and SK behaviour? (without taking interactions with scumbuddies into account)
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On June 12 2012 09:10 gonzaw wrote:
Another question:
Does any of you have an idea who the SK might be?
And is there any subtle difference in scum behaviour and SK behaviour? (without taking interactions with scumbuddies into account)
As to your first question, no clue yet.
To your second question, SK and mafia tend to behave rather differently. SK thrives on running under the radar and not attracting any attention whatsoever - competent SKs will achieve this by lurking or posting "just enough". Really great SKs, though, will work hard to be a trusted member of town (this is easier to do for them because they don't have to worry about teammates). This protects them from the only possible method of killing them - the lynch.
In this setup, the SK is gonna be harder to catch, because we won't have DT checks, trackers, or a trail of bodies to follow back to him (in other setups, you can catch SK if he hits several people casting doubts on him, even if you think he's just scum he'll still die to lynch). We'll have to rely on straight analysis + the one night when 2 people come back dead instead of 1, if that happens. I don't think mafia players would risk outing him directly because that would mean half their strength would be lynched right afterwards, and the SK himself certainly isn't gonna ever claim (once SK is out in the open, his win condition becomes basically impossible).
and to your earlier thing: That isn't a scumslip. That's me being dumb and saying "he's town" when I probably should have said "a player who I think is town".
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So....who do you think is scum?
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Well, this SK is bulletproof. Unless he is afraid of the Mafia outing him, he can be the most helpful townie he wants without any fear.
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So you guys say that we shouldn't even bother looking for the SK now, because he'll easily blend in with us trying to figure out who's scum?
I was under the impression he wouldn't try to be too "helpful" because he wouldn't want to bite a bullet from scum, and have them know his identity (and have 1 less night kill that could have helped him achieve his win-condition faster).
Then again he might try to pull a VE from Storm, try to fuck up all scum and not even mind scum shooting him and knowing who he is (or Palmar in Arkham Asylum).
I'm still waiting for your answer Grey.
I've "turned off my confirmation bias" to give you another chance and the benefit of the doubt, don't make me regret that decision.
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Cool, I'm back now.
I can't really comment that much on the lynch, because I wasn't around to interact with it, but I get why people wanted to lynch MZ, and he martyred himself, which wouldn't help his case.
Looking at how the votes fell, there's a few people who just single voted for someone who wasn't Palmar/MZ. This includes Gonzaw, hesmyrr, and chaoser.
Going through filters:
chaoser, you said in this post:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 02:16 chaoser wrote:
I'm ok with either a MZ lynch or a BB/wiggles lynch. This is an invite only game that was very exclusive from what I can tell from pre-game and so for people to be as inactive as BB or wiggles are is very disappointing.
But even then, lynch wise it would be greymist>>>MZ>>>>>>>>>>BB/Wiggles
You'd like an MZ lynch in preference after grey. However, you don't comment at all on how you think MZ is scummy. You also don't switch your vote to consolidate at all onto MZ, even when the lynch came down to being in between MZ and palmar, with you writing this:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 05:54 chaoser wrote:
I don't think palmar is trolling, if that helps. I think palmar is playing a pretty good game actually (not trying to buddy), I think you're misrepresenting his actions BB.
So, if you had a town-read on Palmar (which is what I'm getting from "palmar is playing a pretty good game actually"), why didn't you switch your vote onto MZ, who you said you were ok with lynching, and to prevent the lynch of palmar? What gives?
Hesmyrr only mentions the MZ/Palmar lynch here:
+ Show Spoiler +On June 12 2012 07:07 Hesmyrr wrote:Show nested quote +Hesmyrr, you pushed VE, you're obviously around as you posted an hour ago, yet you are not contributing at all to the lynch. Do you still think VE is the best lynch? Is anyone else on your radar? Pitch in. I was actually waiting for you to post the analysis regarding VE, since I couldn't find concrete argument to merit analysis post yet. Currently I find MZ lynch to be better than that of Palmar but I am not going to get stuck on black-white thinking; the fact that GreYMisT+VE have voted him is cause for concern which is why I am reserving my judgment until the last moment. Personally the interactions happened between VisceraEyes and you are making me extremely wary.
He says he likes the MZ lynch better than a Palmar one, but that's it, and doesn't commit to it with a vote. This was 53 minutes before the deadline, but the vote counts were all low, so I'm hesitant to call him out on not switching to a target more likely to be lynched. I'm keeping an eye on him.
Gonzaw said he doesn't like the MZ lynch, but there's no mention of Palmar one way or the other. So, he didn't say he likes one of the candidates and then didn't vote for them like the other two, he just stuck to his candidate he put forward. He looks the best out of the three after the lynch.
By the way, Gonzaw, what do you think of Palmar?
Personally, I think Palmar is being Palmar right now (or at least acting like it). He's been changing his scum meta recently from being just useless from Day 1 on to trying to act like himself for a while. I'm leaning slightly towards town now, but if he starts not pushing any cases or doing anything useful, it means he's scum.
On June 12 2012 09:10 gonzaw wrote:
Another question:
Does any of you have an idea who the SK might be?
And is there any subtle difference in scum behaviour and SK behaviour? (without taking interactions with scumbuddies into account)
I'd say that an SK is going to be active enough to not get lynched, but not so active that he will be shot early on. So, basically someone who's running middle of the road. It depends a bit on the player though. Obviously, someone like Radfield couldn't play the SK the same way as me or you, or someone else who people aren't expecting to be one of the central figures of town in the mid-game. But, for most of the players, it should go how I said. They'll contribute enough to not look scummy, and then they'll keep a low enough profile to not get shot. This will go on until the player numbers go down, and then they'll probably try to become a stronger force in the game.
Also, something people seem to be missing, or at least glossing over, is that if scum shoot the SK, they don't need to out themselves to lynch necessarily. They can just make an analysis of that player calling them scum, or wait a day and make one calling them the SK. There's nothing stopping them from just trying to lynch the SK normally, and as soon as a town player does it, calling someone out as an SK isn't suspicious.
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First of all..can someone tell me why the lynch was on "either MZ or Palmar"?
Both Palmar and Grey had 2 votes (before I voted BB) if I recall correctly, and MZ only had like 3 votes at a time (which is not a "oh oh he's definitely the lynch today" amount)
@Wiggles: I was suspicious of Palmar initially because of him trying to shift attention towards MZ when I presented my Grey case.
However after seeing him play I see he's playing with confidence and arrogance. I know he can play pretty good as scum, like in Liar Game, so I'm not crossing him as town yet, but I don't think lynching him right now (or yesterday) is a good idea.
Wiggles you have a lot to contribute since you've been missing, specially about the cases on Grey, VE and Radfield that were posted last day
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On June 12 2012 10:53 gonzaw wrote:
First of all..can someone tell me why the lynch was on "either MZ or Palmar"?
Both Palmar and Grey had 2 votes (before I voted BB) if I recall correctly, and MZ only had like 3 votes at a time (which is not a "oh oh he's definitely the lynch today" amount)
@Wiggles: I was suspicious of Palmar initially because of him trying to shift attention towards MZ when I presented my Grey case.
However after seeing him play I see he's playing with confidence and arrogance. I know he can play pretty good as scum, like in Liar Game, so I'm not crossing him as town yet, but I don't think lynching him right now (or yesterday) is a good idea.
Wiggles you have a lot to contribute since you've been missing, specially about the cases on Grey, VE and Radfield that were posted last day
I said it was between Palmar and MZ because it looked like it ended up as 4-3, and then everyone else having only 1 vote on them. I read through pretty quickly, so I might not have paid enough attention to how the vote developed. I just saw three people single-voted and went through their filters to see what I thought and look for people avoiding being responsible for the lynch or not.
I have a bunch of stuff to catch up on, so would you mind linking me to the specific cases? I know you made the greymist one, and hesmyrr made the VE one, who started the one on VE again?
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On June 12 2012 11:01 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 10:53 gonzaw wrote:
First of all..can someone tell me why the lynch was on "either MZ or Palmar"?
Both Palmar and Grey had 2 votes (before I voted BB) if I recall correctly, and MZ only had like 3 votes at a time (which is not a "oh oh he's definitely the lynch today" amount)
@Wiggles: I was suspicious of Palmar initially because of him trying to shift attention towards MZ when I presented my Grey case.
However after seeing him play I see he's playing with confidence and arrogance. I know he can play pretty good as scum, like in Liar Game, so I'm not crossing him as town yet, but I don't think lynching him right now (or yesterday) is a good idea.
Wiggles you have a lot to contribute since you've been missing, specially about the cases on Grey, VE and Radfield that were posted last day I said it was between Palmar and MZ because it looked like it ended up as 4-3, and then everyone else having only 1 vote on them. I read through pretty quickly, so I might not have paid enough attention to how the vote developed. I just saw three people single-voted and went through their filters to see what I thought and look for people avoiding being responsible for the lynch or not. I have a bunch of stuff to catch up on, so would you mind linking me to the specific cases? I know you made the greymist one, and hesmyrr made the VE one, who started the one on VE again?
You answered your own question.
Sorry I'm too lazy right now to reread the thread looking for them.
But chaoser and I posted about Greymist
Hesmyrr posted about VE
VE and MZ posted about Radfield
Just check their filters (and of course read the thread in it's completion)
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On June 12 2012 09:39 gonzaw wrote:
So....who do you think is scum?
Still figuring that one out. I will post when I have a clearer picture. There isn't really a time crunch at the moment, so I hope you don't mind if I take my time during the night cycle and read carefully.
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On June 12 2012 11:33 BrownBear wrote:Still figuring that one out. I will post when I have a clearer picture. There isn't really a time crunch at the moment, so I hope you don't mind if I take my time during the night cycle and read carefully.
You don't go lurking on me
Fine, you have all the time in the world (until night ends) to thoroughly reread the thread and filters to figure out what's going on, but you can still chime in on discussions and post your "temporal" thoughts to show you are active and care about the game.
I still wonder why you didn't even try to find scum yesterday. So you read the thread, found out Palmar was a "nuisance and cancer to town" and decided to tunnel him for the rest of the day, all the while you ignored everything else being discussed...which you know...was about actually trying to catch scum
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On June 12 2012 05:40 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 05:21 Palmar wrote:On June 12 2012 05:13 BrownBear wrote:
Also, you still haven't addressed the issues I have with the inherent shittiness of RNG lynches. If you did post about it and I missed it, could you enlighten me? If you did not understand it from my explanation, you're probably not going to get it. I explained pretty well why they're good, but only if people use their heads, which is rare. And it would take you maybe thirty fucking seconds to put it up in a quote, say "HERE IT IS BROWNBEAR, NOW SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP", and be done with it. You have not done this still. Either you're too stubborn to help other people play the game, or you are still vainly trying to hide the fact that no explanation exists.
Just to throw something out there, he did not respond with a quote of his reasoning, but rather decided to say "this game sucks cause everyone is trolling" and has posted nothing but one or two liners since. I find that kind of disappointing, and a little bit suspicious.
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On June 12 2012 11:37 gonzaw wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2012 11:33 BrownBear wrote:On June 12 2012 09:39 gonzaw wrote:
So....who do you think is scum? Still figuring that one out. I will post when I have a clearer picture. There isn't really a time crunch at the moment, so I hope you don't mind if I take my time during the night cycle and read carefully. You don't go lurking on me Fine, you have all the time in the world (until night ends) to thoroughly reread the thread and filters to figure out what's going on, but you can still chime in on discussions and post your "temporal" thoughts to show you are active and care about the game. I still wonder why you didn't even try to find scum yesterday. So you read the thread, found out Palmar was a "nuisance and cancer to town" and decided to tunnel him for the rest of the day, all the while you ignored everything else being discussed...which you know... was about actually trying to catch scum
I thought Palmar was scum until very near the end of the day. I'll admit that was emotionally charged because I hate it when people directly attack me in game and call me "fucking useless" but I was focusing on someone who at the time, I thought was scum.
Also, I still think his plans this game have been bad, his attitude has been bad, and he overall has been a distraction to town. So I don't mind removing his credibility within town, because maybe it will make people stop listening to him and maybe we'll get some intelligent, non-flamey discussion done tomorrow.
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