iGrok's Good Clean Old-fashioned Mafia - Page 20

On June 12 2012 06:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yeah sure Rad. First of all, the only firm stance he's taken on anyone has been Palmar. However, he has taken weak stances on several people (myself, you, GreY, Wiggles, etc.)

Add to that his weak ass reasoning for not wanting to lynch me...it stank of wanting to avoid giving an opinion one way or another, but still appear to be "taking a stance". When asked about it, he ignores it.

Add to that his incendiary prodding of Palmar close to the lynch, and it all seems to point toward pushing an agenda to me.

On June 12 2012 06:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
WHEW GUY, I almost lynched you for not doing this shit Rad. Be more careful bro.

On June 12 2012 06:56 Radfield wrote:
I see the one regarding the VE post, and I agree with you that it's scummy. I can also see a townie using that reasoning after mislynching someone twice. Feelings like that happen in mafia. I'm not sure which other post you're referring to though.


Hesmyrr, you pushed VE, you're obviously around as you posted an hour ago, yet you are not contributing at all to the lynch. Do you still think VE is the best lynch? Is anyone else on your radar? Pitch in.

On June 12 2012 07:03 Radfield wrote:


I don't see that as a particularly strong case.

It's Day 1, weak stances are to be expected. I agree he had a strange reason for not wanting to vote you, but it was strange in a strange way, not a scummy way.

Palmar invites incendiary prodding like few other players on the site. Getting in a pissing contest with Palmar is hardly indicative of scum.

I'm not going to cry if we lynch him, but I don't think our odds are particularly high. I have to run for a minute, but will put together a quick case on VE when I get back. Unless of course someone can convince me of another lynch, but no one seems to be really pushing anyone.

Hesmyrr, you pushed VE, you're obviously around as you posted an hour ago, yet you are not contributing at all to the lynch. Do you still think VE is the best lynch? Is anyone else on your radar? Pitch in.

On June 12 2012 06:31 Radfield wrote:


I'm considering it, but his demeanor is very unscumlike. That being said I think he has the ability to put up excellent defenses as scum when his back is against the wall. He had me second guessing myself in PYP:Int, and I basically had a red check on him.

He doesn't have anything expressly super-townie in his posts, but his overall in your face/antagonistic playstyle doesn't seem forced or fake. It seems like he doesn't really give a crap, which is a townie trait.

THAT being said, some of his posts raise flags(his early posts+ the VE post), but not really enough for me to want to lynch him.

I'm also realizing that it doesn't make particular sense to lynch you Day 1 either, as your town play tend to stand out, and you'll get significantly easier to read as the game goes on. It hinges on me finding another candidate though

On June 12 2012 07:33 Hesmyrr wrote:
I actually wanted to let the conversation play out longer and see if it further justifies my doubts, but since I already wrote about VisceraEyes - Radfield connection I'll try my best to explain why I feel bad about these two, which started from here.

His first three paragraphs reveal he feels wish-washy about MZ and I found it suspect how he was being conservative with his vote even at that situation, not voting for his current biggest scum-read. The tone of post is such that it makes him open for voting both, like Radfield will post his case and will let himself be "persuaded" by VisceraEyes so I wanted to gauge strength of the argument. Then VisceraEyes started picking up bunch of freebie townie points by talking about it with him. I guess I just didn't see reason Radfield would refrain posting his analysis at this critical juncture. He did fix most of the problems I had with him at time of this posting so I'll see how his argument turns out and determine whether to stick with VE depending on situation.

I do have to leave for moment but I will be back in order to change my vote if needed.

On June 12 2012 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:




LOL

Mkay Rad...good luck getting off that mass switch before deadline bro...I'm sure they'll just be lining up.

On June 12 2012 07:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't need to do any dance.

What I DO need is for you to answer the point I raised.



So like....why would you call it scummy when talking to Palmar yet call it "strange, NOT scummy" when talking to me? We're talking about the same event I assume (his post regarding me)...and while it's true that you followed up with "...but I can see a townie motivation", the fact of the matter is that you were careful to clarify that you thought it was NOT scummy with me, but you agreed with Palmar that it was "scummy".