? I didn't roleclaim now. I said that if risk is scum, then I would have wanted to roleclaim tomorrow because that would give us 1 or 2 confirmed townies in addition to the people who are already strong town reads

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 08 2012 00:29 GMT

#672

Are you getting confused by me saying "i"? I mean for everyone.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 08 2012 02:40 GMT

#675

sigh. I will have my full list of reads by the end of the night. Please read my case on Sbrubbles.

It is very unlikely that we have a medic. Therefore, after tonight we will have only 2 days left, both of which will be lylo.

The poisons left are secret ballot, hidden flip, 24 hour day, and mayoral election. 24 hour day hurts us and should never be used. Secret Ballot should be used when we have 1 mafia left maybe, but not tomorrow as we want to see the voting. Hidden flip does not hurt us at all, as if the game goes on, we know that mafia was lynched.

All of that being said I think we should have a mayoral election tomorrow. Why? Because tomorrow is I believe the right time to roleclaim. Which will either give us 2 confirmed townies or a very easy lynch to choose between. If mafia does not counterclaim, the mayor should be one of the 2 confirmed townies (or innocent child if we have one). If mafia does counterclaim, we either have an innocent child or we have certain people who I think everyone should have as town reads (I will name who I think these are in my end-of-night post) as a mayor. In these scenarios, I believe that having a mayoral election is actually a benefit, instead of a poison. So I think the poisons should be mayoral election tomorrow and then hidden flip the next day.

As for why not do it the other way (hidden flip tomorrow and then mayoral election the final day), I think that is a bad idea as the number of strong town reads/ blue roles we have alive will only go down.

##Vote: Mayor Election

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 08 2012 23:39 GMT

#690

I get an error. Can you just post the original thing.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 09 2012 01:59 GMT

#693

I am fairly sure that Sbrubbles is mafia. Please read my case if you didn't already do so. And the fact that risk.nuke agreed only bolsters my belief. In terms of my other reads, I'm confident in sloOsh being town. Toad made such a hard push on prplhz and I was leaning town from his play before that in general, so I think he is town.

Roleblocker
Nav
Radfield
risk.nuke

Framer
wherebugsgo

in question:
sbrubbles - framer
kurumi - framer
zephirdd - framer
talismania - RB
sloosh - framer

2 people from the above group are mafia and thus their votes do not count. If it's 2 framers who are lying, then we should definitely have a roleblocker. Thing is, no one has been roleblocked. If that is the case tomorrow also, then we probably have a framer. If we have a framer, that means talismania is mafia, as it is impossible for there to be a framer if talismania is telling the truth. Thing is I don't think he's mafia at all. Mafia might be hiding the fact that they have a roleblocker as they don't feel it's valuable to use. Probably best to trust Radfield's read, there's nothing except the vote count that makes me think talismania is scum, and I had a slight town read on him early on.

Kurumi and Zephirdd are kind of hard for me to read. I think last scum is between them. Oh, I think Zephirdd's reasons for thinking slOosh is scum are bad, btw. Leaning towards Zephirdd as scum.

If I die, I think the best course of action is to: everyone roleclaim, use whatever info you get from that, and lynch sbrubbles.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 09 2012 02:42 GMT

#700

Hm, I'm not sure about that breadcrumb. It looks a bit fishy. And there's no way slOosh looks like that picture

So we obviously elect slOosh. I agree with lynching Sbrubbles today.

Zephirdd is obviously not scum now lol. But I'm not sure about Kurumi being scum tbh. I was expecting a prplhz kill today, and it kind of looks to me like Zephirdd being killed just sets up a Kurumi lynch. I need to go over talismania's filter again and look at his previous games. I do remember noticing that he didn't make any real cases or reads - he spent most of his time doing connection stuff.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 09 2012 02:43 GMT

#701

Oh and I think our last blue should claim. What do you say, slOosh?

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 09 2012 04:08 GMT

#704

Ok, I have read through Kurumi's filter, Talismania's filter, and the past couple of days.

First, Kurumi's vote on day 2 does not make sense from a mafia perspective. He votes for Toad very early at a time when a risk.nuke lynch was still possible. And it doesn't look like a bus.

Second, talismania votes in a very strange manner - he votes for Toad right after prplhz says that he is going to hammer on Toad, but before prplhz can cast his vote. To me this looks like talismania is trying to claim credit for the Toad lynch although in reality he was saying in the thread that a risk.nuke lynch was fine also.

Third, talismania has not really been giving proper reads/cases (except on Zephirdd) - instead he has mostly been trying to find connections between people.

Fourth, the fact that no one has been roleblocked yet makes me think there is a framer (I just find it hard to believe that mafia would completely hold their block, even with IC being one of the roles, and then talismania has to be lying and mafia).

I am not 100% sure, but I think Sbrubbles+talismania is the mafia team.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 09 2012 07:35 GMT

#707

It's kind of interesting that we spent so much time on the poisons and blue roles and ultimately they didn't really affect the game lol (except for the mafia role voting part). That voting part was what made me look at talismania more closely.

The funny part about this game for me was I didn't really have a good reason for voting GF lol, I just picked it and I thought I'd think about it later but I never got around to it. And then I had to come up with something when everyone started questioning me. To be honest though, that's how I do most things lol.

After that, I just saw certain people who I thought were town and then I tried to focus on one mafia read at a time. After d1, I had slOosh as a strong town read and Radfield, prplhz, talismania, Kurumi as slight town reads.

I had Zephirdd as a strong mafia read (woops) and Toad, Sbrubbles (I lied about my read on him d1 because I didn't have enough evidence to support my case) as slight mafia reads. Radfield's case on Toad was really ridiculously good and after that I think mafia just lost too much influence.

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