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On June 17 2012 02:17 Kenpachi wrote:
we are killing you
No you're not -_-
People need to take a step back for a second, if you kill me you're basically shooting me for the same reasons I shot supersoft, I was scared he was the gf and was gonna get away clean.
I understand you're pissed but let's not let that get in the way of the game. Supersoft gave us a scum list, let's start shooting down that.
Also could someone summarize exactly why I'm scum? All I see is a couple people shouting "gf" and the thread sheeping along.
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kitaman27
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On June 15 2012 03:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
As I've stated before, I think payl needs to die as well
On June 15 2012 04:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
And marv, would you be happy if we had payl shoot zentor or vice versa?
On June 15 2012 05:10 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Shoot payl now.
On June 15 2012 07:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'd like you to shoot payl right now.
On June 15 2012 08:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Shoot payl now please.
On June 15 2012 08:22 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Shoot payl please.
On June 15 2012 08:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Go with payl. He's the guy who I feel like supersoft is try the hardest to shift focus away from.
On June 17 2012 02:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Tomorrow we'll have toad shoot payl. From there we move to kita.
Eight different times you mention how you want payl dead. Based on the number of times you request his death, you seem pretty confident. So why are you shooting the only player to hit scum? The previous game Occam's razor was your best friend, but now you're convinced he is scum. Why are you shooting at 3am in the morning? If you truly felt you were about to snipe the godfather, why aren't you interested in seeing how other people react? Did you just figure your time was up based on my post before the night and wanted to get the shot in before I could hit you?
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Nice out of context kita, pretty much all of those are actually directed at supersoft. His refusal to actually shoot payl when the chips were down was a definetely part of me shooting him.
Also lovin how you're jumping right into the game now kita, what are your thoughs so far (and your theory that I was scared of you is ludicrous lol).
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cmon i want it to be night already
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 17 2012 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nice out of context kita, pretty much all of those are actually directed at supersoft. His refusal to actually shoot payl when the chips were down was a definetely part of me shooting him.
Of the eight, only two were directed at supersoft. I fail to see how they were out of context. There are far more than those eight that I didn't include as well.
[QUOTE]On June 17 2012 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also lovin how you're jumping right into the game now kita, what are your thoughs so far (and your theory that I was scared of you is ludicrous lol).[/quote[
Maybe if you waited for my opinion before calling a shot on the dt and a scum shooting townie then I wouldn't be stuck posting at night every cycle. I specifically asked no one to shoot mid-night. You never answered why you felt it necessary to shoot at 3 in the morning. If you're sniping the godfather, why aren't you interested in other's reactions?
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On June 17 2012 02:10 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:57 Toadesstern wrote:
Don't just shoot him. I want to read kitas big post and I find it incredible hard to believe a GF would shoot like that when he could have just shot Gonzaw d1 with a phrase like "screw you guys, stop bullshitting around.
I'd like to see Kitas post nevertheles and I'm going to take a break and I'll start rereading things tomorrow (that is starting in abtout 14 hours from this point).
And do me a favor and leave the tinfoil-hats at home. Don't hold your breath. Unless you have a better explanation, I don't see what Meapak should live.
I had a townread on MZ so far and yes what happend is troublesome, that's why I said we / I need to reread filters because either I my townread was wrong as shown with this shot or my townread was right and this shot is overconfidence as it clearly makes no sense. Neither from a mafia / SK point of view nor from a townie point of view.
I could see him do that as mafia on purpose to play the "come on, I'd never do THAT as a mafia"-card because I'm having a hard time thinking he'd do what he did as a townie, especially after TL and our talk in my Mason-QT. This is just super weird so far. If he's not town he' mafia though. SK is pretty much impossible because of what I already said.
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
If this is a medic setup, then the mafia team wouldn't be able to kill supersoft at night. If this is not a medic setup, then RoL is the serial killer.
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On June 17 2012 02:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:No you're not -_- People need to take a step back for a second, if you kill me you're basically shooting me for the same reasons I shot supersoft, I was scared he was the gf and was gonna get away clean. I understand you're pissed but let's not let that get in the way of the game. Supersoft gave us a scum list, let's start shooting down that. Also could someone summarize exactly why I'm scum? All I see is a couple people shouting "gf" and the thread sheeping along.
I am killing you tomorrow if no-one else does 
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On June 17 2012 03:26 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nice out of context kita, pretty much all of those are actually directed at supersoft. His refusal to actually shoot payl when the chips were down was a definetely part of me shooting him. Of the eight, only two were directed at supersoft. I fail to see how they were out of context. There are far more than those eight that I didn't include as well. Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also lovin how you're jumping right into the game now kita, what are your thoughs so far (and your theory that I was scared of you is ludicrous lol). Maybe if you waited for my opinion before calling a shot on the dt and a scum shooting townie then I wouldn't be stuck posting at night every cycle. I specifically asked no one to shoot mid-night. You never answered why you felt it necessary to shoot at 3 in the morning. If you're sniping the godfather, why aren't you interested in other's reactions?
I shot at like 2, I was playing LoL (check my match history if you don't believe me) and checked the thread, I had been stewing on it all day and just said fuck it and shot.
And let's back this out a bit, why on earth should I have waited for your opinion? The one person I would have listened to was probably marvl and he had previously called for supersoft's death. You mentioned occam's razor. Guess what? Supersoft being gf IS the right answer via occam's razor. Don't tell me I'm just supposed to blindly believe that the guy who coincidentally was green checked is able to make a last minute switch to magically hit scum. He's been pressuring one set of suspects but at the last minute switches course and just happens to hit scum. And then you people are all going on about how "confirmed" he is. It was too convenient, simplest answer as to what's wrong? He's gf looking to win the game.
I guess I make a really attractive miss shot, that's the only reason I can come up with for your sudden interest in the game kita.
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On June 17 2012 04:29 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 02:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 17 2012 02:17 Kenpachi wrote:
we are killing you No you're not -_- People need to take a step back for a second, if you kill me you're basically shooting me for the same reasons I shot supersoft, I was scared he was the gf and was gonna get away clean. I understand you're pissed but let's not let that get in the way of the game. Supersoft gave us a scum list, let's start shooting down that. Also could someone summarize exactly why I'm scum? All I see is a couple people shouting "gf" and the thread sheeping along. I am killing you tomorrow if no-one else does
ffs can someone actually post a case or give some real reasons other than "he fucked up he must be scum durr"
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 17 2012 04:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:29 Zealos wrote:On June 17 2012 02:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 17 2012 02:17 Kenpachi wrote:
we are killing you No you're not -_- People need to take a step back for a second, if you kill me you're basically shooting me for the same reasons I shot supersoft, I was scared he was the gf and was gonna get away clean. I understand you're pissed but let's not let that get in the way of the game. Supersoft gave us a scum list, let's start shooting down that. Also could someone summarize exactly why I'm scum? All I see is a couple people shouting "gf" and the thread sheeping along. I am killing you tomorrow if no-one else does ffs can someone actually post a case or give some real reasons other than "he fucked up he must be scum durr"
You're zero for three this game.
You called for a kill on the cop.
You redirected discussion when talismania was brought up.
You shot the towniest player in the game without any discussion.
On June 17 2012 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You mentioned occam's razor. Guess what? Supersoft being gf IS the right answer via occam's razor. Don't tell me I'm just supposed to blindly believe that the guy who coincidentally was green checked is able to make a last minute switch to magically hit scum. He's been pressuring one set of suspects but at the last minute switches course and just happens to hit scum. And then you people are all going on about how "confirmed" he is. It was too convenient, simplest answer as to what's wrong? He's gf looking to win the game.
So explain this to me:
supersoft is the godfather. He refuses to shoot your prefered suspect who you believe is scum. Instead he shoots talismania who flips scum. How does shooting one mafia player over another suddenly make him incredibly scummy in your view? What does he have to gain by shooting the unsuspected mafia player over the one that multiple people are gunning after?
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 17 2012 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I shot at like 2, I was playing LoL (check my match history if you don't believe me)
15-0-7. Meapak too pro.
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On June 17 2012 05:01 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 17 2012 04:29 Zealos wrote:On June 17 2012 02:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 17 2012 02:17 Kenpachi wrote:
we are killing you No you're not -_- People need to take a step back for a second, if you kill me you're basically shooting me for the same reasons I shot supersoft, I was scared he was the gf and was gonna get away clean. I understand you're pissed but let's not let that get in the way of the game. Supersoft gave us a scum list, let's start shooting down that. Also could someone summarize exactly why I'm scum? All I see is a couple people shouting "gf" and the thread sheeping along. I am killing you tomorrow if no-one else does ffs can someone actually post a case or give some real reasons other than "he fucked up he must be scum durr" You're zero for three this game. You called for a kill on the cop. You redirected discussion when talismania was brought up. You shot the towniest player in the game without any discussion. Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
You mentioned occam's razor. Guess what? Supersoft being gf IS the right answer via occam's razor. Don't tell me I'm just supposed to blindly believe that the guy who coincidentally was green checked is able to make a last minute switch to magically hit scum. He's been pressuring one set of suspects but at the last minute switches course and just happens to hit scum. And then you people are all going on about how "confirmed" he is. It was too convenient, simplest answer as to what's wrong? He's gf looking to win the game. So explain this to me: supersoft is the godfather. He refuses to shoot your prefered suspect who you believe is scum. Instead he shoots talismania who flips scum. How does shooting one mafia player over another suddenly make him incredibly scummy in your view? What does he have to gain by shooting the unsuspected mafia player over the one that multiple people are gunning after?
Alright you can't hang me over the d1 business, I was vocal yes but I wasn't railroading like some people. In regards to talisman, I saw him as a misdirection from payl. To me it looked like supersoft was trying to blow smoke by bringing up more suspects. And again, you have to consider the fact that supersoft was gunning for payl and co. until his sudden switch to talisman, this just frankly looked scummy.
How shooting talisman is scummy is because it was so out of the blue. Supersoft goes the whole game with payl as his suspect and suddenly bam, he magically nails talisman as scum. It was just too convenient. Better yet, with his town cred gained he can probably force a mislynch on his target of choice tomorrow (yesterday). Look at how pissed people are that I shot him, that was my fear, that he had perfectly situated himself as "confirmed." When he was still alive at the beginning of the day that just sealed it for me.
Again I'll say this, the shot was just too accurate. With his green check everything was too convenient and screamed "gf taking advantage of a situation." Aside from his magical shot, the rest of his play was super scummy.
And yeah, I had a pretty good game last night :D. First time I didn't die through an entire game, was feelin pretty ballin.
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On June 17 2012 04:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 03:26 kitaman27 wrote:On June 17 2012 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nice out of context kita, pretty much all of those are actually directed at supersoft. His refusal to actually shoot payl when the chips were down was a definetely part of me shooting him. Of the eight, only two were directed at supersoft. I fail to see how they were out of context. There are far more than those eight that I didn't include as well. On June 17 2012 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Also lovin how you're jumping right into the game now kita, what are your thoughs so far (and your theory that I was scared of you is ludicrous lol). Maybe if you waited for my opinion before calling a shot on the dt and a scum shooting townie then I wouldn't be stuck posting at night every cycle. I specifically asked no one to shoot mid-night. You never answered why you felt it necessary to shoot at 3 in the morning. If you're sniping the godfather, why aren't you interested in other's reactions? I shot at like 2, I was playing LoL (check my match history if you don't believe me) and checked the thread, I had been stewing on it all day and just said fuck it and shot. And let's back this out a bit, why on earth should I have waited for your opinion? The one person I would have listened to was probably marvl and he had previously called for supersoft's death. You mentioned occam's razor. Guess what? Supersoft being gf IS the right answer via occam's razor. Don't tell me I'm just supposed to blindly believe that the guy who coincidentally was green checked is able to make a last minute switch to magically hit scum. He's been pressuring one set of suspects but at the last minute switches course and just happens to hit scum. And then you people are all going on about how "confirmed" he is. It was too convenient, simplest answer as to what's wrong? He's gf looking to win the game. I guess I make a really attractive miss shot, that's the only reason I can come up with for your sudden interest in the game kita.
hey, don't bring me into this  I've been disgracefully flippant since I fucked up on gonzaw. I wasn't just gonna shoot supersoft or ANYONE 2 posts into the day though.
if that's how you felt about him why not bring it up? How would he get away with it? kita pretty much established earlier I believe that scum can't possibly have more than one gf for balance reasons so scum COULD NOT SHOOT this day, if what you believed about supersoft was correct.
Therefore how could he even get away with it? Even if it's what you firmly believed, you could either discuss it or wait for much later in the day after a shit-tonne of discussion.
You're either a terri, terribad townie or you're scum. I do not believe you're a terribad townie.
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On June 17 2012 03:08 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Nice out of context kita, pretty much all of those are actually directed at supersoft. His refusal to actually shoot payl when the chips were down was a definetely part of me shooting him.
Also lovin how you're jumping right into the game now kita, what are your thoughs so far (and your theory that I was scared of you is ludicrous lol).
Alright lets make this simple. Shooting right at the day post was absolutely retarded. To make matters worse you shot the only person who pegged a scum based off some paranoid theory that he could be the godfather. Mafia with a 4 player team would likely play way more conservative with their players then that, especially considering the mafia we killed could of fired a shot from stealing my gun and ended the day right there anyway.
It would of been stupid for supersoft as godfather to do that when there was a much better option in making talismania shoot someone and piss away a day cycle.
Then again, your action as mafia wouldn't make sense either. You know how shitty you would look by doing that and that we would likely punish you for it. The only conclusion I can draw is that you are the SK and you needed to use your day shot or risk modkill. Instead of being confirmed like maybe you had hoped you just look like shit.
So anyway, I will shoot Meapak tomorrow. I know he's a better play then to pull that shit as town and it only makes sense for the SK to do. My only question is if you guys think I should kill him immediately at day post or wait? I will do it at towns discretion.
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Unless someone claims medic protection, then my theory of you being SK is wrong. If no one claims medic it accounts for the missing hit.
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If you shoot me you're just compounding my error.
I'm going to be out for a few hours, when I get back I'll write up some cases on my reads.
I again ask the thread in general, do you actually have a case against me aside from the fact that I fucked up? So far there has been resounding silence in from all those pushing for my death. Take emotion out of this for a moment and think about what I've said. My reasoning is not crazy, my motives are pretty apparent, the only thing I should have done differently was not shoot so early and talk it out with a few people first. We're all pissed, now let's calm down and keep playing, he gave us a great place to start.
I've seen a lot of "meapak isn't that stupid," since kita brought up last game I'll just say a word about that: VE. You're trying to crucify me over one mistake and justify it using skill level which is retarded.
Please make an actual case as to why I'm scum.
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not the fact you fucked up, the manner and timing in which you did it
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MZ, even if supersoft ended up being the godfather, you still did the wrong thing, because you got rid of 24 hours of discussion for town for no reason.
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On June 17 2012 08:01 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If you shoot me you're just compounding my error.
I'm going to be out for a few hours, when I get back I'll write up some cases on my reads.
I again ask the thread in general, do you actually have a case against me aside from the fact that I fucked up? So far there has been resounding silence in from all those pushing for my death. Take emotion out of this for a moment and think about what I've said. My reasoning is not crazy, my motives are pretty apparent, the only thing I should have done differently was not shoot so early and talk it out with a few people first. We're all pissed, now let's calm down and keep playing, he gave us a great place to start.
I've seen a lot of "meapak isn't that stupid," since kita brought up last game I'll just say a word about that: VE. You're trying to crucify me over one mistake and justify it using skill level which is retarded.
Please make an actual case as to why I'm scum.
When you fuck up that bad and in that way it leaves only one conclusion regardless of your perceived skill level. Your skill level just compounds that error. Keep in mind if you were SK you probably would of felt you NEEDED to shoot before anyone else.
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