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rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 16 2012 12:30 GMT
#1101
MZ your an idiot I told everyone soft and ROL were confirmed. There was 0 way either was scum, MZ has to die for that.

As for sk, mafia could have shot him last night o someone was protected, but just in case we should kill MZ b/c he could have not fired last nighyand took his shot today. We will need to see if anyone claims to have been protected.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 16 2012 12:31 GMT
#1102
How come there was no role reveal for Mr. Wiggles?
Mr. Wiggles has been killed

Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 16 2012 12:33 GMT
#1103
If heirs green he has to be vt right, otherwise he would have been blue or red, that is how I took it.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2012 12:33 GMT
#1104
green can only be VT no?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 16 2012 12:50 GMT
#1105
So how do we proceed from here? We just lost 24 hours of discussion, and while I prefer to discuss in the day it doesn't look like we will get that option.

Do we shoot MZ? I feel like we kind of have to, if we don't he gets to shoot again the next day and we will end up right here again. As someone said maybe he is a traitor, at this point that fits, I really want to shoot him for what he did but maybe I am not thinking clearly, and this isn't the best option.

Ok theory time, I almost mentioned it before but here goes... I think the mafia might not have a gf. Hear me out on this, with gf and the gun scum we already killed they could have locked down 3whole days of discussion like he just did here. And net up to 9 town kills with 0 town kp. That seems a tad over powered.... So what if instead there is no gf, but they do have day kp and the gf role was there so we know some mafia have kp. Maybe there's a traitor to make up for it,or maybe more than one mafia has a gun.

Regardless I want to see MZ dead regardless... Just wakingp so I will try and do some actual analysis later.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 16 2012 12:56 GMT
#1106
I think MZ has to die.

He'll go something like "omgzzz but supersoft did random shot too!"

yea, but he didn't cancel out a whole day's discussion first. very different.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 16 2012 13:02 GMT
#1107
Just because the shot will not happen today doesn't mean we can't discuss and decide what it is. We could even decide a shot and then take it at the very start of the day (so we would effectively be in the same place we would have been if MZ hadn't shot but minus 1 townie.)

We have to shoot MZ.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 16 2012 13:09 GMT
#1108
On June 16 2012 22:02 layabout wrote:
Just because the shot will not happen today doesn't mean we can't discuss and decide what it is. We could even decide a shot and then take it at the very start of the day (so we would effectively be in the same place we would have been if MZ hadn't shot but minus 1 townie.)

We have to shoot MZ.

-3 if both night kills go off...

Also to the sk just a heads up while people have said that in the case of all Mafia vs an sk, sk wins bc he can shoot the, but they can't shoot him, as you may have realized this isnt the case as long as they have their rb they can block your bulletproof and shoot you in the night so you will want to kill the rb before you are safe vs them.
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
June 16 2012 13:36 GMT
#1109
-3 if both night kills go off...

well curse you MZ!

It worth mentioning that the mafia wincon in talismania's pm was
You win by outnumbering the Town at any point during the Day

with 13 alive thats 3 mafia and 1 sk and 9 town (3 : 1 : 9)
we will (probably) have (3 : 1 : 7) at the start of tomorrow
which is (probably) mylo if scum have a dayshot.

The multple night kill essentially confirm the existence of an sk and a lot of this depends on what the SK does. They should be aiming at scum for now though.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
June 16 2012 13:46 GMT
#1110
Yeah and unless someone claims to have been protected I think mafia hit the sk last night which is why there was only 1 hit I wonder if they will kill him tonight...
Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
June 16 2012 16:01 GMT
#1111
I dont understand this. Unfortunatly I don't have much time today so get don't have time to re-read and read filters an such.

MZ have not acted scummy (Before the kill today). He was one of my townreads actually =/ This confuses me a bit...

I'm not sure we can let MZ get away with this. So shooting him seems like a good plan. We do however need to consider if he is not the GF (Or any other kind of day shooting scum). If MZ for some reason flip town, we will loose... So we better be sure that he is scum.

Fast math:

After this night 11 left:
1 sk
3 scum
7 town

After day 4. MZ dies and isnt scum/sk

10 left:
1 SK
3 Scum
6 town

After Night 4:

8 left:
1 SK
3 Scum
4 town.

And town loose. This is of course worst case. We might get a medic save, the SK hits scum or scum kill the SK.

So we either have to be sure MZ is scum or hope that the SK hits scum with his NK.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
June 16 2012 16:03 GMT
#1112
Oh and also...

why only 1 night kill?!? Who got hit/protected/is vet? You think SK or scum wanted to kill Wiggles?
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
payl
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
June 16 2012 16:05 GMT
#1113
Meapak has to die.

the idea that supersoft was the godfather shooting talis made absolutely zero sense. talis gaining a gun meant that mafia could chain nightkill/gf-daykill/nightkill/talis-daykill/nightkill/gf-daykill/nightkill for a massive chain of kills to end a game without town getting a single chance to do anything. giving that up along with one of their members is not even close to being worth gaining cred for supersoft as godfather shooting talis.
payl
Profile Joined June 2012
11 Posts
June 16 2012 16:07 GMT
#1114
On June 17 2012 01:03 Dirkzor wrote:
Oh and also...

why only 1 night kill?!? Who got hit/protected/is vet? You think SK or scum wanted to kill Wiggles?


"Serial Killer - Lone wolf. You must survive until the end of the game and eliminate both Town,Mafia and any other factions. At night you are bulletproof and can't be shot. You also show up as Innocent to role checks. You can kill at Night OR Kill during the day. You must kill at Night or the following Day or else I will mod kill you."

There's another possibility.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 16 2012 16:12 GMT
#1115
On June 16 2012 17:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
After the game I'll tell you what you should have done differently supersoft.

##Shoot: Supersoft

Ya'll ready for a pro gf snipe?

lawl i knew you were mafia

fuck sorry town im 2 pussy to shoot
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 16 2012 16:57 GMT
#1116
wtf happend guy. I'm going shopping becaue nephew has his firt birthday tomorrow and afterwards playing a little gold, I came back and see two dead townies? 8(
On June 16 2012 19:54 Zealos wrote:
Ok, I'm with marv on this. Even if he isn't gf, if we have a policy against shots like this it'll stop the real GF from screwing with us.

Don't just shoot him. I want to read kitas big post and I find it incredible hard to believe a GF would shoot like that when he could have just shot Gonzaw d1 with a phrase like "screw you guys, stop bullshitting around. We shoot him NAO" or he could have just shot Payl (^^) d2 after Supersoft forced pretty much everyone into shooting him with an equal phrase.

This shot was completly retarded from both point of views, not only from a town point of view and we need to check hi filter to make sure we're not hitting the next townie... Kinda tierd right now though after staying up until 3am yesterday for this and waking up 8am again.
I'd like to see Kitas post nevertheles and I'm going to take a break and I'll start rereading things tomorrow (that is starting in abtout 14 hours from this point).
And do me a favor and leave the tinfoil-hats at home.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 16 2012 17:02 GMT
#1117
wtf. I can't spell when I'm tired. It's even worse than usual
EBWOP in the spoiler if you can't stand the horribad english:

+ Show Spoiler [EBWOP] +

wtf happend guys. I'm going shopping because my nephew has his first birthday tomorrow and afterwards I'm playing a little golf, I come back and see two dead townies? 8(
On June 16 2012 19:54 Zealos wrote:
Ok, I'm with marv on this. Even if he isn't gf, if we have a policy against shots like this it'll stop the real GF from screwing with us.

Don't just shoot him. I want to read kitas big post and I find it incredible hard to believe a GF would shoot like that when he could have just shot Gonzaw d1 with a phrase like "screw you guys, stop bullshitting around. We shoot him NAO" or he could have just shot Payl (^^) d2 after Supersoft forced pretty much everyone into shooting him with an equal phrase.

This shot was completly retarded from both point of views, not only from a town point of view and we need to check hi filter to make sure we're not hitting the next townie... Kinda tierd right now though after staying up until 3am yesterday for this and waking up 8am again.
I'd like to see Kitas post nevertheles and I'm going to take a break and I'll start rereading things tomorrow (that is starting in abtout 14 hours from this point).
And do me a favor and leave the tinfoil-hats at home.


Addition because of the SK-post:
I find it hard to believe that a SK would have shot supersoft instead of me. He probably would not have run into a lot of problems for shooting me even with my green flip because there's at least 3 very vocal players who though I was mafia yesterday although at least Zentor backed off a little.
Still, I don't see a reason for a SK to shoot Supersoft instead of people like me, or Payl.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
June 16 2012 17:10 GMT
#1118
On June 17 2012 01:57 Toadesstern wrote:
Don't just shoot him. I want to read kitas big post and I find it incredible hard to believe a GF would shoot like that when he could have just shot Gonzaw d1 with a phrase like "screw you guys, stop bullshitting around.

I'd like to see Kitas post nevertheles and I'm going to take a break and I'll start rereading things tomorrow (that is starting in abtout 14 hours from this point).
And do me a favor and leave the tinfoil-hats at home.


Don't hold your breath. Unless you have a better explanation, I don't see what Meapak should live.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 16 2012 17:16 GMT
#1119
people we're not killing me -_-

Yes, obviously I fucked up big time, do I need to go back a quote all you who said that supersoft needed to die? I can justify my shot until the end of time (because it's a very justifiable shot) but that's useless now. You can either take my word that I fucked up, or you can shoot me tomorrow and we'll be in an even worse position than we are now. We need to kill more scum so what we do now is follow the leads that supersoft laid out for us and go from there. Tomorrow we'll have toad shoot payl. From there we move to kita.
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
June 16 2012 17:17 GMT
#1120
we are killing you
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
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