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Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 08 2012 23:06 GMT
#673
PM sent.
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 08 2012 23:25 GMT
#680
GG everybody. Well played Xatalos. I didn't think you could have possibly bussed heist.

Gutsy play, gutsy win. As I promised I tip my hat to you ser.
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 08 2012 23:25 GMT
#683
Thanks for hosting Toad!
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 08 2012 23:38 GMT
#698
@ Unforgiven
Stop insulting people. There is absolutely no place for it in the after game discussion.
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 09 2012 07:54 GMT
#756
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On June 09 2012 06:58 Miltonkram wrote:
Xatalos: Town- If you're asking me to believe that he's scum you're also asking me to believe that he made these plays. (I'm hypothetically referring to him as scum in this list)
- He started pressure on Unforgiven. This is a ballsy move. Putting follow up pressure on players is much more typical of scum play.
- He bussed heist D2 immediately after his scumbuddy, suki, got lynched. This is another really ballsy move.
- He immediately returned his pressure back to heist after our mislynch on Vivax. The fallout after a mislynch is a good time for scum to try and lay low hoping that voting patterns might incriminate another player. Xatalos did not allow this.

These are not common plays to make as scum. If he is scum then those plays were extremely risky. I just don't believe it. Xatalos, if you are scum, I tip my hat to you. You've made some tough calls.



I approve of this post! xD Haha, I'm so happy all my risky plays paid off in the end!

You have no idea how hard I facepalmed after I saw the endgame post XD

Oh well, you live and learn. I think if we hadn't had 2 modkills town might have won. Not taking anything away from you Xatalos. I'm taking notes from you on how to play next time I get picked for scum. Really impressive play in my eyes!

@ suki
I know how you feel. I got picked for scum in my first game too. I know what it feels like to be on the wrong end of sciberbia's analysis. He caught a scumslip by me D1 but couldn't get the lynch. I seriously don't think that guy has ever pointed the town wrong.
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 09 2012 23:22 GMT
#765
Xatalos, thanks for pointing out the mistakes you think you made. It's always interesting seeing where mafia feel like they went wrong. Looking back I definitely didn't put enough pressure on you. I saw a few things that I thought were scummy, but I didn't have much faith in my scumhunting abilities.
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 10 2012 23:26 GMT
#785
@ sciberbia
Note taken. From here on out I won't immediately discount evidence just because it's WIFOM. I'm still not sure I could have convinced myself that Xatalos was scum, but Unforgiven dying would have certainly given me more pause.

Do you think I should have appeared less certain during the final night cycle? At the time I was fairly certain of ShiaoPi but I still had a nagging suspicion about Xatalos. If I had made it less obvious that ShiaoPi was my target for the next day I could have forced a few decent cases/posts out of Xatalos. Do you think that would have been a better play on my part?
Miltonkram
Profile Joined December 2011
United States310 Posts
June 11 2012 09:38 GMT
#791
@ suki
Same here. Even though I've only played two games I'm starting to realize that TL Mafia is becoming an addiction.

Needz moar...
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