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HiroPro
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HiroPro
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On May 21 2012 04:45 Nova_Terra wrote: Yaaaaaay! Should we get rid of a veteran? should we? I THINK SO :D ##Vote: VisceraEyes Cue VE roleclaim in 3... 2... 1... | ||
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HiroPro
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The first is the timing of Tunkeg's "I'm going to change it up" post. Either town or scum are capable of saying that they want to change their playstyle. If you look at this game, ET also says that he wants to change his play. But he does this BEFORE roles are out. The second is the way that Tunkeg responds to Acrofales's post against him: HE DOESN'T RESPOND. You don't like my opening post, and thats ok. ET is comming to my defense, and are voting for you. What is your take on this situation? Do you think ET have any motives for defending me, and if so what are they? All he does is go "lolol someone coming to my defense" and try to shift attention onto ET "Do you think ET have any motives for defending me". @marvel Yea, Navilius's tone is very apologetic and wishywashy. The vote is dumb also. What do you think of Tunkeg? | ||
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HiroPro
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On May 22 2012 04:34 Nova_Terra wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 22 2012 04:16 froggynoddy wrote: Hello, finally recovered from weekend (did not expect this game to start so early). Hello Marv  : I'm almost tempted to policy vote you due to how scary good you played with me as scum in LIV. Policy lynches are bad though so your safe until you post more.I don't think WBG's opening comment is alignment charged. there are equal reasons for both town and scum to open up D1 with general common sense posts. From the 2 games I've played (Noobie VIII and TLMafia LIV) and N_T has been lurky/bored as townie and hyper-active as scum. Just saying. Navillus, despite still being a noob I am strongly against a 'voting against vets' policy. It makes no sense and seems hugely anti-town, unless its a joke. Let me know if it is because until then ##Vote Navillus[/b Rofl, well thats interesting, it looks like i just went through your newbie game (snmmIX not VIII, bitch to find) and in that game there was an understanding that my town meta was very very active which i ended up failing at as scum, and my meta change was frequently noted in cases against me. Very interesting that you would want to try to make this conclusion. what reason would there be other than scum? ##Unvote ##Vote: Froggynoddy What kind of bs omgus vote is this. He votes for you and makes an argument, so he's scum? [B]On May 22 2012 03:18 Mattchew wrote: [spoiler] Suffer the little creatures, for they may yet rise up and beat you senseless. "Throw rocks at 'em Throw spears at 'em Throw Furt at 'em" ##vote Mouldy Jeb[/spoiler] Are you saying that all of these players are scum? Tunkeg: Stop hiding and respond to my case on you. | ||
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HiroPro
United States2624 Posts
On May 22 2012 04:41 marvellosity wrote: I'm totally up for lynching Mattchew because it seems like he's gonna post like a dick. I don't care about his posting style, as long as he actually explains his vote and reasoning. | ||
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HiroPro
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Oh he voted for Navilius. W/e. Your reasoning still sucks. | ||
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HiroPro
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On May 22 2012 04:46 HiroPro wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 22 2012 03:18 Mattchew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2012 17:09 Acid~ wrote: I'm suspicious of both Acrofales and Nova_Terra. Acrofales, the fact that you and Mattchew were on opposing teams the last three games is exactly the definition of coincidence, which makes your accusation completely random. Also it seems that the only person you are not suspicious of is Nova, my other candidate for scum. Nova, why would you think it's a good idea to kill a veteran d1 unless you somehow knew he wasn't on your team? On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote: hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra On May 21 2012 20:54 Mouldy Jeb wrote: tera~ this game is full of people jumping to conclusions so don't get a bit pissed  On May 21 2012 21:39 Mouldy Jeb wrote: an apt point, i was making a split second judgement I'm not saying I'm against you I'm just stating at that time you seemed to have the most random vote based only on the fact he was a vet. also my vote isn't by far final On May 22 2012 00:31 Nova_Terra wrote: Seems very unsure of himself; town should be sure On May 15 2012 19:47 froggynoddy wrote: /in if this game starts after end of LIV. Otherwise /out Suffer the little creatures, for they may yet rise up and beat you senseless. "Throw rocks at 'em Throw spears at 'em Throw Furt at 'em" ##vote Mouldy Jeb Are you saying that all of these players are scum? And scumkeg is still ignoring my case. Those "reads" are just as useless as the laundry list of questions he threw out earlier. | ||
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HiroPro
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On May 22 2012 08:07 Katina wrote: I was reading through filters and came across this post. It is just O.o This post does not have a purpose. It feels forced. Almost like he didn't really want to post but knew that he had to. I'm not saying we should kill him but that a finger of suspicion should be pointed onto him. He just played the noob card in his post. I'm always wary of those people. They don't tickle my fancy. Yea, Mould is definitely suspicious. That post is really unnatural. an apt point, i was making a split second judgement I'm not saying I'm against you I'm just stating at that time you seemed to have the most random vote based only on the fact he was a vet. also my vote isn't by far final And he then follows it up with a wishy-washy apology for his vote. Mattchew: I didn't mind the flavor at first, but it's starting to get kind of irritating now. Can you please post normally. And can you indicate "yes" or "no" to my question: On May 22 2012 04:46 HiroPro wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On May 22 2012 03:18 Mattchew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 21 2012 17:09 Acid~ wrote: I'm suspicious of both Acrofales and Nova_Terra. Acrofales, the fact that you and Mattchew were on opposing teams the last three games is exactly the definition of coincidence, which makes your accusation completely random. Also it seems that the only person you are not suspicious of is Nova, my other candidate for scum. Nova, why would you think it's a good idea to kill a veteran d1 unless you somehow knew he wasn't on your team? On May 21 2012 18:37 Mouldy Jeb wrote: hi- now my presence is known. saying "get rid of a veteran" indicates that you are worried that an experienced Mafia player will either weasel you out~ if your mafia or kill you if you are not so due to this rash decision to get rid of competition so on that note #vote:Nova_Terra On May 21 2012 20:54 Mouldy Jeb wrote: tera~ this game is full of people jumping to conclusions so don't get a bit pissed On May 21 2012 21:39 Mouldy Jeb wrote: an apt point, i was making a split second judgement I'm not saying I'm against you I'm just stating at that time you seemed to have the most random vote based only on the fact he was a vet. also my vote isn't by far final On May 22 2012 00:31 Nova_Terra wrote: Seems very unsure of himself; town should be sure On May 15 2012 19:47 froggynoddy wrote: /in if this game starts after end of LIV. Otherwise /out Suffer the little creatures, for they may yet rise up and beat you senseless. "Throw rocks at 'em Throw spears at 'em Throw Furt at 'em" ##vote Mouldy Jeb Are you saying that all of these players are scum? | ||
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HiroPro
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On May 22 2012 07:10 Mouldy Jeb wrote: mattchew, just because im considering that my vote may have been based on an ill judgement doesn't mean im scum just means ill have to wait till tomorrow to consolidate all the evidence from each persons posts to conjure up a decision on who to vote for. Early on, Mouldy Jeb promises that he's going to make an analysis and vote the next day. But that's not actually what he does. Instead he votes for Mattchew. Not because Mattchew's posting style is unclear or disruptive for town (like some other people did). No, instead Mouldy Jeb votes for Mattchew because Mattchew VOTED FOR HIM. I Just Want to Apologize On May 21 2012 21:39 Mouldy Jeb wrote: an apt point, i was making a split second judgement I'm not saying I'm against you I'm just stating at that time you seemed to have the most random vote based only on the fact he was a vet. also my vote isn't by far final On May 22 2012 22:15 Mouldy Jeb wrote: also not lurking just had school my mistake ill be reading over everything... On May 23 2012 00:31 Mouldy Jeb wrote: this is my first game :S I never second read and my silly posts are getting me lynched I'm vanilla townie waste of a lynch but i cant argue with solid reasoning. Throughout his posts, Mouldy Jeb maintains an apologetic, wishy-washy tone. He avoids taking responsibility for his votes, is constantly trying to provide excuses for his behavior, and ultimately doesn't give any actual reads, cases, or scumhunting. ##Vote Mouldy Jeb | ||
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HiroPro
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On May 23 2012 03:13 Nova_Terra wrote: Hiro why do you find him scum instead of bad townie? Bad townies actually make an effort to do reads and cases. He does neither. Additionally, bad townies are almost never this passive and apologetic. They make lots of "scumslips" and have bad reasoning, but they don't cower in fear. | ||
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HiroPro
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And why do you think he's scum, but don't want to vote for him, VE? And what the heck is VCA. | ||
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HiroPro
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On May 22 2012 00:31 HiroPro wrote: There are two things that make me suspicious of Tunkeg. The first is the timing of Tunkeg's "I'm going to change it up" post. Either town or scum are capable of saying that they want to change their playstyle. If you look at this game, ET also says that he wants to change his play. But he does this BEFORE roles are out. The second is the way that Tunkeg responds to Acrofales's post against him: HE DOESN'T RESPOND. All he does is go "lolol someone coming to my defense" and try to shift attention onto ET "Do you think ET have any motives for defending me". Guys I'm a Useful Poster!!! @VE What do yout hink of WBG's helpfull opening post? I ask you because you got the most experience with him. As a standard normal player I would put this as a pro-town. With WBG I am unsure, as he is thought of as one of the best scumplayers on TL, and I think he is capable of leveling us with these kinds of posts. @WBG If you were a dayvig and had to lynch someone right now, who would it be and why? @Acrofalis You don't like my opening post, and thats ok. ET is comming to my defense, and are voting for you. What is your take on this situation? Do you think ET have any motives for defending me, and if so what are they? @NT What do you think about Acrofalis play thus far? @ET Not to derail your arguemnent with Acrofalis to much, but what do you get out of Zealos posts thus far? @Zealos I can see why someone would throw out a random vote on someone to pressure as number one (even if I don't think it is a great way of pressuring).You do this as number two on VE, for no reason. And next you are sheeping ET on his Acrofalis vote. Why did you vote VE? And could elaborate why you are voting Acrofalis? These questions are meaningless. Tunkeg doesn't actually pressure anyone. He doesn't follow up on them or use them in his "list of 'reads'". He says that he wants to post better analysis, but he doesn't actually do that. On May 24 2012 00:14 Tunkeg wrote: EchelonTee - Scum So I have changed my mind. I had ET leaning town early on in the game, I was wrong. He is scum, and this is why: 1. He have been trying to appear active while not really being active. His post have mostly consisted of oneliners, soft accusations and defending others. I think his defence om me was for this purpose only. To appear active, get easy townpoints and be able to put down an early vote. Isolated I viewed his arguement with Acrofalis as townie, as he was sticking his head out. In hindsight I see this as mentioned above - a way to appear active. 2. He don't really want to give us his reads. I have asked him for reads two times, he ignores it. Why dodge questions like that if you are town? Sure, he might think they are trivial and not worth spending his time on. But I see refusing to answer questions as scummy. 3. He listed that he would be ok with lynching jeb, acid and Katina without any reason. Between them there are two newbies, who are an easy misslynch because they are inexperienced and Katina, who is famous for being very lurky (at least she have been in all games I have played with her), and is also a player that is easy to get a misslynch on. 4. He voted for jeb just before the deadline (on the deadline actually) without any reason. And in a very suspicious way: "When is the deadline", like he did it on purpose, so that he wouldn't have to post any reasoning to why he voted jeb, and not get hold accountable for it. ET is my number one scumread. Feel free to discuss it or not, especially if you disagree. If you agreeyou are probably better off waiting until after the night is over. Because if ET is scum scumteam will probably lynch someone who agrees to make it less likely he get lynched on day 2. As for his "case" against ET, lol. Apparently, in Tunkeg world, being an active poster who pressures people is a scum trait. Tunkeg is a faker. | ||
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HiroPro
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+ Show Spoiler + On May 24 2012 00:14 Tunkeg wrote: EchelonTee - Scum So I have changed my mind. I had ET leaning town early on in the game, I was wrong. He is scum, and this is why: 1. He have been trying to appear active while not really being active. His post have mostly consisted of oneliners, soft accusations and defending others. I think his defence om me was for this purpose only. To appear active, get easy townpoints and be able to put down an early vote. Isolated I viewed his arguement with Acrofalis as townie, as he was sticking his head out. In hindsight I see this as mentioned above - a way to appear active. 2. He don't really want to give us his reads. I have asked him for reads two times, he ignores it. Why dodge questions like that if you are town? Sure, he might think they are trivial and not worth spending his time on. But I see refusing to answer questions as scummy. 3. He listed that he would be ok with lynching jeb, acid and Katina without any reason. Between them there are two newbies, who are an easy misslynch because they are inexperienced and Katina, who is famous for being very lurky (at least she have been in all games I have played with her), and is also a player that is easy to get a misslynch on. 4. He voted for jeb just before the deadline (on the deadline actually) without any reason. And in a very suspicious way: "When is the deadline", like he did it on purpose, so that he wouldn't have to post any reasoning to why he voted jeb, and not get hold accountable for it. ET is my number one scumread. Feel free to discuss it or not, especially if you disagree. If you agreeyou are probably better off waiting until after the night is over. Because if ET is scum scumteam will probably lynch someone who agrees to make it less likely he get lynched on day 2. Oh look, your "number one scumread" died. How convenient. Guess that gives you more time to post useless questions and lists, huh. ##Vote Tunkeg | ||
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On May 24 2012 07:51 Zealos wrote: In fact, hiro, you've written nothing of substance all game bar a case against Mouldy. Your points against Tunkeg have seemed weak, and your latest post is downright dreadful. Seems like you're tunnelling tunkeg to avoid giving any other reads. Oh I see. Apparently posting cases and reads on the people I think are scum is a scummy thing. Maybe I should go after people I think are town, the way you do? | ||
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