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On May 24 2012 07:55 VisceraEyes wrote: Hiro, your case is pretty bad, I'll summarize it here:
- Pre-game, claimed he wanted to change up his style - Attempting to appear useful and active while not contributing himself - His scumread died overnight.
First of all, Tunkeg's assertion that his style would be different this game is not indicative of his alignment as he said it (as far as I know) before the roles went out. Are you saying he said this BEFORE he knew he was scum IN CASE he rolled scum so he could subvert his scum meta? That's a stretch, I don't care how you look at it.
Oh that's funny. Cause it's an OUTRIGHT LIE. Tunkeg doesn't mention anything like that before the game starts. That big "I want to change my style. No, no it's not cause I rolled scum. It's because I want to improve my analysis skills" post is after the day 1 post. Are you telling me that Tunkeg didn't know his role at that point. Bullshit.
Second, I'm not sure why you attempt to discredit his case against ET, but it seemed well enough thought out, and the points he raised were pretty valid - I had to go back and reread ET to find out if I missed something after reading his case. Yet all you have to say about the case is the following: Show nested quote +In his case, HiroPro wrote: As for his "case" against ET, lol. Apparently, in Tunkeg world, being an active poster who pressures people is a scum trait. Tunkeg is a faker. All he does is hard-defend ET here - not refute Tunkeg's points or even address the case at all...only buddy up to the one Tunkeg was attacking. That's it. So why was it bad exactly? Do you disagree with his points? Why?
1. Huh this point isn't valid at all. Being active and pressuring is people is what town does. 2. Oh he doesn't your huge list of questions. Maybe cause they're worthless. 3. Ooh. ooh. he wants to take the easy scum targets. Maybe he doesn't want to give cases at nighttime??? 4. Maybe true. But if he was scum, then why the hell would he vote for someone he knows is townie when it doesn't matter??? He would vote for someone else.
Bam. Fake case broken down.
And in the future, don't tell people to stop posting like 5th graders if you're just going to post like a 5th grader ("Guys stop talking unless you're gonna talk about me!"). Oh I see. What you have been doing this game other than get into arguments???
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On May 24 2012 07:56 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:51 Zealos wrote: In fact, hiro, you've written nothing of substance all game bar a case against Mouldy. Your points against Tunkeg have seemed weak, and your latest post is downright dreadful. Seems like you're tunnelling tunkeg to avoid giving any other reads. Oh I see. Apparently posting cases and reads on the people I think are scum is a scummy thing. Maybe I should go after people I think are town, the way you do? If you really thought he was scum, you might make a decent effort to convince other people to vote for your read too, thats kind of the point of a town player, right?
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Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh".
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On May 24 2012 08:08 HiroPro wrote: And in the future, don't tell people to stop posting like 5th graders if you're just going to post like a 5th grader ("Guys stop talking unless you're gonna talk about me!"). Oh I see. What you have been doing this game other than get into arguments???[/QUOTE] This is a game of arguments, it's how you root out Hiro
Wait, I mean Scum ##Vote: HiroPro
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Screwed up the post, but you get the idea.
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On May 24 2012 08:10 HiroPro wrote: Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh".
Stop it.
All I get from your case on Tunkeg is that he made a post you didn't like that asked a lot of his questions and his scumread died.
Part 2 (ET dying) is wifom-central so I'm going to ignore that for the moment.
What else makes him scum other than the fact he made a list of questions you don't like?
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On May 24 2012 08:10 HiroPro wrote: Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh". There's no point telling people that you think someones scum if you're not gonna try to convince the town to vote with you, or it's just a waste of a vote.
I guess it would be convenient for the mafia players though, tell the town you think someone is scum, but because you don't make a case, no one else will vote for him, so the player will never die and you'll never get proved wrong.
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Also, because it got lost on the last page:
On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos
Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you?
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On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you? I was asleep. Deal. Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense.
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On May 24 2012 08:12 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:10 HiroPro wrote: Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh". Stop it. All I get from your case on Tunkeg is that he made a post you didn't like that asked a lot of his questions and his scumread died. Part 2 (ET dying) is wifom-central so I'm going to ignore that for the moment. What else makes him scum other than the fact he made a list of questions you don't like?
Did you even read my case. The entire fake first post where he tries to discredit his meta AFTER he got his role. Or the fact that he tries to quietly get Acrofales to go after ET. Or the fact that he doesn't actually try to pressure anyone this game. Even the post where he votes for Mattchew is like "oh this guy might be disruptive townie. or he might be scum". And then he follows with some wishy-washy garbage to cover up for himself
"There is one arguement for not lynching him though, and that is: Would really scum draw this much attention to themself? Most likely not, but in TL Mafia where disruptive players never get lynched it would be a viable strategy. "
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Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see.
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On May 24 2012 08:14 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:10 HiroPro wrote: Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh". There's no point telling people that you think someones scum if you're not gonna try to convince the town to vote with you, or it's just a waste of a vote. I guess it would be convenient for the mafia players though, tell the town you think someone is scum, but because you don't make a case, no one else will vote for him, so the player will never die and you'll never get proved wrong.
Bla bla bla bla bla. I like saying useless WIFOM stuff to fill up my filter.
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On May 24 2012 08:20 HiroPro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:14 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 08:10 HiroPro wrote: Posts cases. Gives reasons. Scum shows up and says "oh but why aren't you trying to convince other people, huh". There's no point telling people that you think someones scum if you're not gonna try to convince the town to vote with you, or it's just a waste of a vote. I guess it would be convenient for the mafia players though, tell the town you think someone is scum, but because you don't make a case, no one else will vote for him, so the player will never die and you'll never get proved wrong. Bla bla bla bla bla. I like saying useless WIFOM stuff to fill up my filter. Well this is a really townie looking defense. Very keen to shit up the thread Hiro?
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On May 24 2012 08:18 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you? I was asleep. Deal.Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense.
Ok guys, we're lynching Zealos today. See bold for his excuse on not providing scumreads. See below timestamp for his post where he deferred his scumhunting:
On May 23 2012 00:04 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 00:00 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote: yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. "In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.##vote: MouldyJeb Do you not have an opinion which? And presuming you do, why? Leaning on terrible town, because his team would have shut him up or at least coached him by now imo. Still strongest lynch atm though. Lurked to begin with, followed with nonsensical posting. You don't have a single scumread? No strong ones, no, I haven't had a good enough look over the thread. I'll look over everything at the end of the night, because even if I tried to make a case now it'd probably be too late to get anything done about it.
00:04 KST, otherwise known as 16:04 BST. Asleep my arse.
This guy is fucking scummyscumscum.
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Oh I get it. Now you're trying to say I scumslipped. No, I described what your worthless post just said.
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On May 24 2012 08:20 Zealos wrote: Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see.
Even this is still bullshit. Everything that you posted in your 'cases' on me and zelblade happened BEFORE the post I timestamped above.
Scum.
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On May 24 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:18 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you? I was asleep. Deal.Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense. Ok guys, we're lynching Zealos today. See bold for his excuse on not providing scumreads. See below timestamp for his post where he deferred his scumhunting: Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:04 Zealos wrote:On May 23 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 00:00 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote: yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. "In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.##vote: MouldyJeb Do you not have an opinion which? And presuming you do, why? Leaning on terrible town, because his team would have shut him up or at least coached him by now imo. Still strongest lynch atm though. Lurked to begin with, followed with nonsensical posting. You don't have a single scumread? No strong ones, no, I haven't had a good enough look over the thread. I'll look over everything at the end of the night, because even if I tried to make a case now it'd probably be too late to get anything done about it. 00:04 KST, otherwise known as 16:04 BST. Asleep my arse. This guy is fucking scummyscumscum. Notice my 2nd part. I said I didn't have any scumreads. I fail to see what's difficult to understand.
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And notice my 2nd part, darling.
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On May 24 2012 08:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:20 Zealos wrote: Actually, to clarify the first portion of the post. I was asleep just before deadline. I still felt mouldy was the best lynch. Looking for scum doesn't help when there's nothing to see. Even this is still bullshit. Everything that you posted in your 'cases' on me and zelblade happened BEFORE the post I timestamped above. Scum. So the one thing I have done that is actually scummy is that I didnt have cases on day1?
He's got me guys, looks like I'm gonna die.
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On May 24 2012 08:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:18 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 08:16 marvellosity wrote:Also, because it got lost on the last page: On May 24 2012 08:07 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2012 07:12 Zealos wrote:On May 24 2012 07:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I'm going to go with Zealos because he had concluded that he thought Jeb was likely town, yet thought he was a good lynch I'd have thought that anyone with half a brain would have realized that on a polarity lynch, you vote for whoever is most likely mafia, instead of those who you think are more likely mafia than not. Otherwise someone who is less likely scum imo would be lynched. Not to mention he was a useless town anyway. Convenient, then, that you decided not to spend the time looking for scum and instead deferred doing so until after the lynch. ##Vote: Zealos Zealos: why exactly is Hiro scum for arguing with you? I was asleep. Deal.Hiro isn't scum for arguing with me. He's scum for making a useless case that makes literally no sense at all. It feels like he made the case just for the sake of making the case, and as a result, it didn't make sense. Ok guys, we're lynching Zealos today. See bold for his excuse on not providing scumreads. See below timestamp for his post where he deferred his scumhunting: Show nested quote +On May 23 2012 00:04 Zealos wrote:On May 23 2012 00:01 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2012 00:00 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 22 2012 23:15 Zealos wrote:On May 22 2012 23:09 Mattchew wrote:On May 22 2012 22:41 Mouldy Jeb wrote: yeah i had a feeling (OOOH AAAH) that that wasn't going to be understood, to explain, originally he voted for me for a reason he has yet to conger up then because of that random vote i felt that he was having a random vote so i voted for him. as a result of this he is trying to incriminate me by the whole "it reeks of terror and chaos shit"~~short and simple i don't like him i think he's scum trying to save his ass. "In a town shaped by the subtle machinations and political intrigue of its guilds, it's reassuring to see a goblin waving his torch and screaming about some nonsense or other." —Agrus Kos Lol. Gotta say I agree, I just don't understand what he's talking about o.O Terrible town, or terrible mafia imo.##vote: MouldyJeb Do you not have an opinion which? And presuming you do, why? Leaning on terrible town, because his team would have shut him up or at least coached him by now imo. Still strongest lynch atm though. Lurked to begin with, followed with nonsensical posting. You don't have a single scumread? No strong ones, no, I haven't had a good enough look over the thread. I'll look over everything at the end of the night, because even if I tried to make a case now it'd probably be too late to get anything done about it. 00:04 KST, otherwise known as 16:04 BST. Asleep my arse. This guy is fucking scummyscumscum.
BOOM. We can lynch this guy today and Tunkeg tomorrow. ##Unvote ##Vote Zealos
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