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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
VE was asked why he didn't for push any cases. I believe this fits very well to the careful playstyle of not pushing for any lynches yourself. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
Day 2 Vote Count VisceraEyes - (15) kitaman27 Meapak_Ziphh EchelonTee Blazinghand MajuGarzett Manason Toadesstern austinmcc strongandbig sToFu Mr. Wiggles Hassybaby jaj22 papapanda Ange777 Zealos - (4) marvellosity supersoft Hyaach Probulous VisceraEyes GambitX32 - (0) Kitaman - (1) grush57 papapanda - (1) Kenpachi Hyaach - (0) Toadesstern - (0) Strongandbig - (1) Mattchew Haven't voted - (4) Zealos phagga Cwave GambitX32 VisceraEyes to be lynched! | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:35 Ange777 wrote: I am going to put my vote on VE as well. I didn't like his vote switching and we have no guarantee that VE is vig, won't be roleblocked again, .... I think most of the concerns were already mentioned. What was not mentioned in MZ's analysis Actually I never understood that one. If you don't have support for a lynch, you get some by posting a strong case. It shouldn't be the other way round. Vote-switching is part of the game. What if I had landed on you, you would be appreciative of me switching off then right? Votes are a tool. I use them. I go through this in every game. What matters is what I choose to do with it with the lynch. Today I want to lynch either Kita or Zealos...do you disagree with either of those choices? Then why does my vote-switching bother you? Getting vets to support your lynch is different from getting other players to agree with your lynch. With normal players you're correct, but vets have a preconceived notion of what scum are likely to do and how they're likely to act, so you have to kinda wait until vets notice the shit on their own. That's why I was so excited when MZ said he thought Kita looked suspicious and why I wanted to see if he was serious today - because with MZ's support I could feasibly get a lynch of Kita rolling. MZ reneged though and ended up targeting me. C'est la vie. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:41 Ange777 wrote: I should stop clicking "Post" for "Preview" .... VE was asked why he didn't for push any cases. I believe this fits very well to the careful playstyle of not pushing for any lynches yourself. I don't think there is anything careful about VE's playstyle. I was wrong, it seems it seems 14 was the hammer. VE where you at? Don't go missing now. Note: Zealos hasn't voted. Mattchew is still on SnB? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:44 Probulous wrote: I don't think there is anything careful about VE's playstyle. I was wrong, it seems it seems 14 was the hammer. VE where you at? Don't go missing now. Note: Zealos hasn't voted. Mattchew is still on SnB? 15 is the hammer, VE has 15 | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:44 Probulous wrote: Mattchew is still on SnB? I believe so, he was in our camp re lynching VE | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:44 Probulous wrote: I don't think there is anything careful about VE's playstyle. I was wrong, it seems it seems 14 was the hammer. VE where you at? Don't go missing now. Note: Zealos hasn't voted. Mattchew is still on SnB? Because i think he's scum and its not like anyone else is being lynched. My vote doesn't matter because at this point its either on VE or not on VE | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
With 28 players alive it takes 14 to lynch | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
ah shut up scum! really. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:46 supersoft wrote: "Supersoft, what is deal? You hardly post anything and then when you do it is a stupid plan that is bound to fail. Wiggles, get your fat ass in here because as mayor you should have a spine. MZ, get your head out of your ass and think for a second about what VE would do if he was town. " ah shut up scum! really. That is not a response. I am not scum, so your scumlist has at least one thing wrong. Do you not agree that your plan is bound to fail? I mean it cannot work unless VE shoots, that watcher sees him and outs himself. That presumes two blues. If we he gets roleblocked we might get a red for it. It's a dumb plan and you know it. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On June 01 2012 00:20 GreYMisT wrote: Someone was correct, it is 15 to lynch with 28 alive. Blazinghand, We'll see how many non voter we have, I'll think about it | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:33 marvellosity wrote: strongandbig, you're gonna have to make the decision you think is right. Will we go through this tomorrow is not really a valid thought process for deciding on whether someone is scum today, though. Did you vote with me on Hiro on gut? Fuck no. I voted with you because your arguments made more sense. My gut was saying "bro marv 100% scum yo". | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
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Ange777
Germany1164 Posts
On June 01 2012 07:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Vote-switching is part of the game. What if I had landed on you, you would be appreciative of me switching off then right? Votes are a tool. I use them. I go through this in every game. What matters is what I choose to do with it with the lynch. Today I want to lynch either Kita or Zealos...do you disagree with either of those choices? Then why does my vote-switching bother you? Getting vets to support your lynch is different from getting other players to agree with your lynch. With normal players you're correct, but vets have a preconceived notion of what scum are likely to do and how they're likely to act, so you have to kinda wait until vets notice the shit on their own. That's why I was so excited when MZ said he thought Kita looked suspicious and why I wanted to see if he was serious today - because with MZ's support I could feasibly get a lynch of Kita rolling. MZ reneged though and ended up targeting me. C'est la vie. Of course votes are a tool. But you should be confident enough of your vote to be able to stick with a and try to convince people to agree with you instead of switching off of them once someone else makes a case. I do believe you that vets have a preconceived notion about scum und their behaviour but that does not mean that you can't convince people for a lynch of your choice. Have a look at MZ's case. There was almost no support from vet players (besides kita if I remember correctly) and still he was able to make a good case and point out the flaws in your play. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On May 28 2012 14:23 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: VE you've played good so far this game but I can't give you my vote after liar game... maybe next game bro. This is a quote from MZ AFTER MOST OF THE STUFF HE'S BITCHING AT ME ABOUT. Where was all of this "Hey that's anti-town/scummy" then huh? Think guys please. | ||
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