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On May 29 2012 07:47 Forumite wrote: Wiggles, if you became Mayor, who would YOU lynhc? Nevermind, you allready said Sinensis. | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:50 supersoft wrote: I´m not stealing anyones case, I got an early scumread on Zealos and now I´m telling you about it, if you or S&B or anyone else agree, then I´m happy about that. you're stealing my Zealos case and give SnB credit for his case on me? You're playing acceptable when it comes down to establish your townieness. Everything else is completely missing. :-( My first duty is to show I´m town, the second is to find scum. I have to be clear about the first, the second one I prefer to keep to myself until I need to present my reads. Sorry if this makes my filter look a bit thin. | ||
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On May 27 2012 18:28 Zealos wrote: Useless claim for no reason, little content, telling people to get along and drops a vote. Hi guys, I'm a vanilla townie, and I'm gonna try not to get too emotionally attached when I play this game, to avoid cluttering. Let's all try and chill, and play nice together, because arguing is not finding scum. Also, in a game this big, can we try to keep posting concise and simple, so the pages don't get into their thousands. I'm currently happy with an ET mayor. From what I know of him, he may not be the best townie in TL, but he's consistent and seems to do a good job of staying cool and hunting scum. I'm on the "Pardoner is bad" boat too, but I'm not sure the best way to deal with it at the moment, but I'm open to ideas. Not starting looking for scum yet, but as a start. @Blazinghand: Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? @ET: Who would you vote for Mayor if not yourself? @Mattchew: Do you think the arguments going on are indicative of people being scum, or is it a case of frustrated egos? On May 28 2012 01:44 Zealos wrote: Defends Toades for no reason at all, it wasn´t even much of a case on Toades, and definetly no wagon. Could be that he´s a town on edge, but I don´t like it. I think we're being a bit too quick to rush and attack Toad for something reasonably small. Although his entire election campaign was him showing off, the logic was at least there is some way or another. I certainly don't plan on voting for him based off of it though. On May 28 2012 02:31 Zealos wrote: Not everyone was jumping on Toades, not that many really. Preemptive defence, could be to gain town credit, or defend a scumbuddy. It doesn´t feel like he´s as suspicious of Toades play as he should be as town. Because that's my opinion of the game so far. It seems like everyone is ready to jump on, without really looking at rest of the game. On May 28 2012 18:34 Zealos wrote: Best one of all, Zealos is basically saying he´s suspicious without taking responsibility. I´d like to say it´s scum guilt, a combination of knowing he´s accusing a townie and not wanting to take a stand in case it gets him into trouble once S&B flips. Right so, here are my thoughts: SnB - He's seemed "Fishy" this game so far, and I would be happy to FoS him, however, I don't think there is enough there to say it is a good lynch. I'd like to see him post more thoughts though. | ||
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On May 29 2012 07:59 supersoft wrote: But I want to be lazy town nah you're completely right about that. I just wanted to critisize something, to keep you from getting lazy.  Point taken. I tried to make a case on Zealos. There´s not much to go on, but the 3 things he´s done in the game look bad. | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:25 Toadesstern wrote: You shouldn´t be, we´re keeping you alive until tomorrow, so you can confirm yourself as town. I think the case is: Guy proposed a policy lynch and wanted to run for mayor on that policy lynch. Ever after he has been useless. I am somehow scared wiggles might end up lynching me. | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:35 supersoft wrote: Hivemind! i noticed that :/ you basically copy and pasted my case :D | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:37 jaj22 wrote: I don´t understand what you are saying here, does he look like when he played in another game where he was town, or scum? Hmm. I thought Zealos's play was significantly different from his scum play, but his early MTG filter is quite similar. He even does that little coaching thing where he tells the guy to post more. Might not be a bad lynch. I don´t know anything about zealos meta. | ||
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Wiggles, if you got another lynch right now, who would you kill? | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:50 slOosh wrote: I don´t know if I like the sound of that. We are currently looking for replacements for the people who have not voted. | ||
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On May 29 2012 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah, I know, it´s just that when there were replacements in Holy Roman, it was mostly to make sure no scum had to be modkilled. Given that only 23 of 30 players voted, we really need replacements and not modkills. 7 modkills has the potential of ruining the game, whether it's all town, lots of scum, or a mix, or blues/no blues / whatever-- this many people getting killed distorts things, so I hope they can find replacements ;_; On May 29 2012 09:02 kitaman27 wrote: Seriously Kita, shape up. I'd like to announce my candidacy for mayor guys. On May 29 2012 09:07 Toadesstern wrote: Aren´t you overestimating your importance for town? I want you to survive the night and think you are a good target, but it´s up to the medics/jailors. Sup. I think I'm going to use a random number generator to get the first "target". No matter if 3rd party, mafia or town the guy has to claim the mason thing he he wants to survive the day after seeing me flip and surely catching scum in a QT isn't bad either. That being sad I want protection this night as I am HIGHLY likely to be shot. I don't care if it's a medic or a jailer because again, I'm roleblock-immune. There's harly a better place to put your protection this night. If you want to make use of me protect me. I will be confirmed within 24 hours. I suggest any jailors heavily consider protecting Toades, while medics find other targets, that should draw enough, but not too much, protection on Toades. | ||
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I´m agreeing with MZ here, there should be several likely candidates to mason, and while scum might accidentaly hit your mason-buddy in the night, your buddy is not a prime target after today, so picking the right player, rather than just anyone, should pay off later on. | ||
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On May 29 2012 19:43 Toadesstern wrote: Toades, I´m not sure if this is a dumb post or a very, very smart one. I can offer you a person disagreeing with Wiggles needing protection if that's okay as well. -snip- Not saying he is mafia yet, just saying this lynch was stupid and he looks weird because of it and mafia is not going to shoot someone who is looking weird. Even if they do, I don't care lol Medics, protect Wiggles if you feel like it. I don´t really blame Wiggles for lynching sinensis, Kita would have been a good candidate, but otherwise there wasn´t much alternative. A Zealos lynch might have been better but it never got much support, I guess it was too late in the day. There was very little discussion about other lynches, most people seemed fine with sinensis. | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:05 Zealos wrote: I explained that I didn't have the time to post yesterday, so vigging me will be killing a townie. Any reason you're so keen to do that? Make up for it today. Show which team you are on. | ||
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On May 29 2012 20:35 Toadesstern wrote: a smart one of course. I onl maket smart posts when I'm town. If so I´d appreciate if you started posting with clarity instead. You are not confirmed Town yet, and probably won´t be for a few days more. Even if you will eventually prove your townieness beyond all doubt, that won´t matter much if you are not helping town, so stop with the WIFOM. You brag that you are good at this, show us tomorrow. | ||
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On May 29 2012 21:19 Toadesstern wrote: clarity sucks if you are confirmed town. You are not a confirmed Town. | ||
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On Toades, I was suspicious of him from when supersoft called him out on talking about his own scumplay when running for Mayor. I think his play and claim was really weird, but since he´s going to more or less confirm himself tomorrow there´s no point in pushing him now. I´m keeping an eye on him, but he stopped being a lynch candidate after his claim. He looked suspicious and will need to deliver with this Mason business, and I think he needs to step up his posting, but there´s no reason to think he´s scum right now, assuming he proves he´s a mason. On Zealos, he was a strong scumread of mine from very early in the day, I just waited with revealing that. I think supersoft poked me about that, otherwise noone has asked me to reveal my stance on much of anything. If noone asks me to post my reads, then I won´t, at least until a player gets a lot of attention and I need to either support or oppose his lynch. As for my case, I see scumtells in almost all his posts, if I have little to go on it´s because he hasn´t posted much yet, but what he had posted at that time looked very bad indeed. Do you disagree? Do you think Zealos is a shining example of how Town should play? | ||
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On May 30 2012 00:34 austinmcc wrote: Bah, should have organized it more, sorry. I don't disagree with the read on Zealos, and I don't think it's an example of good town play. But that seems to be the general opinion. I just don't get a good feeling from the way it feels like you tried to pump up your reads on Toad and Zealos, especially when a lot of your reasoning came from supersoft or didn't even feel that strong for you (He said, as he finishes presenting a read that apparently isn't all that strong...). Also, when we had so many inactive players, choosing to hold your reads until pressured to reveal anything doesn't quite sit right with me. Do you currently have any reads outside the main targets of discussion that feel scummy to you? It SHOULD have been the general opinion that Zealos was the scummiest, but noone talked about him, and Sinensis got lynched instead if Zealos. Whatever your own read was, there wasn´t enough of other people agreeing with you and I to kill Zealos. I tried to change that at the end of the day but I didn´t try hard enough. My reasoning didn´t come from supersoft, he got my eye on Toades, but we reached the same conclusion on Zealos on our own, unless my subconcious is acting up. I waited until someone else, in this case Supersoft, revealed his own suspicions on Zealos before I did too. I got suspicious of him first when he claimed VT, and then for real with his preemptive defence of Toades. I called him out defending Toades, but didn´t push it too far, I didn´t want to spook him ahead of time, in case he was going to post more incriminating posts. I actually prefer NOT posting more when a part of town is inactive, because if I spam then there´s more to catch up on. Anyway the most suspicious people during D1 are Zealos and Kita. Manason acted weird too. BH looked bad earlier, although less so after the sinensis-flip. I´m not sure how my read on you, austinmcc, changed with the flip, BH was agreeing with Sinensis, at least intitially, but you were defending him. So I´d say my strongest unorthodox scumtell would be Manason. | ||
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On May 30 2012 02:09 Manason wrote: You are here, good, please stay. You´ve posted 3 times the last 2 days, so some more activity would be greatly appreciated. While I do agree with you about Zealos and Kita, I can't say I agree with you on myself. And the obvious question I'm going to ask you is why me? What put you on my scumlist was one post full of odd earlier in the game. On May 27 2012 23:52 Manason wrote: I'm leaning more towards Mr. Wiggles at this point. He's the only one who has given complete sound reasoning on why he should be vice-leader. He promises to basically never use it. So if he does he's either just a bad townie, or scum. And he knows we'd lynch him. There is only one reason I can find not to trust him which is, Assuming he is scum he wants the position so a townie can't get it and so that closer to the endgame it can become the difference between a scum win and a townie win. Also I don't know if this has already been brought up, but assuming the mayor is a good townie I think it's reasonable to believe that they'll be killed the first night, after all why would scum want a good townie in a position with double votes, it can only be bad for them. So we should start looking a little bit more closely at our mayor candidates, because if any of them have brains they've already figured it out they'll be dead the first night unless they're scum of course. The first paragraf is nothing new, of course Wiggles would, if scum, have to reaveal himself when he uses the pardon power, but so would any pardoner, it´s not like any of the candidates have said "Vote me for Vice-Mayor, and I´ll use the Pardon-power whenever I feel like it!". The second paragraf is what made me suspicious. I´m not sure if you are telling scum to kill the mayor, or telling Town that they shouldn´t want to run for Mayor, or maybe you are saying that Town shouldn´t want to be Mayor because they´d die, which means those running are most likely scum. It´s a medium post, but it´s either a post about nothing, or very weird things indeed. I say you are a nervous scum trying to post something. | ||
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Anyway, what I want to know is where you were at the deadline. | ||
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