EPTI'm sorry, was his calling my posting retarded producting to the discussion? Oh was my posting this game tons of gifs and hats? Gee whiz I'm sorry I'll tone that down going forward, how does that sound?
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Blazinghand
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I'm sorry, was his calling my posting retarded producting to the discussion? Oh was my posting this game tons of gifs and hats? Gee whiz I'm sorry I'll tone that down going forward, how does that sound? | ||
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Blazinghand
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This is every game I've played on TL Mafia. Take a look at them, and ask yourself, "is this a guy whose posts are 50% retarded and trolling? Or is this actually false, and ET is talking out of his ass?" My Filters: Student Mafia: Definitely no trolling, aggressively pushed scum and contributed to lynches and town victory as Doctor: (my filter) Resistance I Mafia: Some spamming, but no trolling, tried up until the very last second to avert the town loss as a VT: (my filter) Purgatory Mafia: Definitely no trolling, aggressively pushed scum and contributed to lynches and town victory as VT: (my filter) Sleeper Cell II: Definitely no trolling, aggressively pushed scum and contributed to lynches and endgame reasoning: (my filter) Resistance II Mafia: Although I made some mistakes, I put a great deal of effort in and was by no means retarded: (my filter) Werewolves Mafia: No trolling, etc (my filter) Sum of All fears Mafia: Did I post images and hat-eating gifs? Yes. But I was the only guy in the game defending a townie vet from a D1 mislynch. (my filter) Aperture Mafia: Gifs and images, but no trolling and definitely no retardation: (my filter) Storm Mafia: I end up getting mislynched this game day1, but aside from getting warned for telling syllogism to "eat a dick", there was no trolling or retardation (my filter) TL Mafia LI: No trolling, some excellent use of images: (my filter) I'm a Cop you Idiot Mafia: In this game, I troll and spam, but it is because at this point I am confirmed scum and Palmar explicitly allows spam. There was no trolling or retardation in it. (my filter) TL Mafia LIII: In this game I am modkilled for obscenity. You'll notice the overuse of gifs and bad behavior. However, this is the only game of mine that is even remotely this bad, and hey, I got modkilled, and in the following games, I've been playing great! (filter) TL MAfia LIV: In this game, after LIII in which I was modkilled, I play well and without trolling or retardation (my filter) SO HEY, to ET, if you really think I'm a torll and I typically post gifs, GO DO THE RESEARCH. I don't. I'm a great player, and In one game, once, I was modkilled for overuse of gifs and obscenity, and SINCE THEN I've played great. I am not a troll or a retard. And if you really think that this isn't the case, then you are intentionally being obtuse. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On May 27 2012 16:51 EchelonTee wrote: You're getting over emotional dude, and it's making you look bad. 1. If you're offended, you deserve to be, I agree, but it's starting to look like you're going to build a gigantic, overblown case on him because you got offended. SnB is easy as shit to root out as scum, so I'm not too concerned with him. I'm more so concerned with you, and building a case off of emotion isn't the best plan. I'm not here to lynch SnB. I'm here to lynch Grush because he's worthless. Am I not allowed to put some pressure on SnB? Don't you find his reasoning for his choice to run for a power that's only useful to scum kinda weird? On May 27 2012 16:51 EchelonTee wrote: 2. No, you didn't post tons of gifs and hats this game. But hey, grush hasn't been a complete anti-town loser this game either. But you want to lynch grush for stuff that he's done in a previous game. Do you see the logical disconnect here? 100% of my interaction with grush is that previous game, he was given plenty of chances to do well and he has not. I had one game in which I was modkilled unjustly for the use of profanity and gifs, and all my other games are pristine, and the list is long-- look it up yourself and apply your logic to evidence before talking about lgoical disconnects On May 27 2012 16:51 EchelonTee wrote: 3. That was a pretty rapid triple post. You're not a scrub so I'm not going to assume that you were actually flustered by my light questioning, but you seem more concerned with proving yourself right and bashing people that you dislike, then actually scum hunting. If you think me triple posting is unusual clearly you're so unfamiliar with my meta that you should just stop talking. | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:11 EchelonTee wrote: No BH, I have respect for your play. I thought I made that clear in SoaF when I thought you were a longtime Vet, even though you haven't been playing for that long. I don't even know why the hell I'm defending SnB this much; then again, I don't know why you are so touchy about this. You have to remember that that modkill happened very recently, so it is fresher in people's mind, especially a newbie. If you're town, you're going to be a strong asset, so I'm merely trying to diffuse a situation where it looks like you're getting worked up like shit. What, by saying the guy is right to call me retarded/trolling? I've presented evidence that I am indeed not a retarded/trolling player. Whether or not SnB thinks I'm retarded/trolling is completely irrelevant. I just get annoyed by people saying it to my face. What's relevant is this, and the fact that you don't find it relevant is weird: On May 27 2012 15:43 Blazinghand wrote: So your initial reasoning for why you wanted the role, as you wrote it, was: But now it's Were you lying then or are you lying now? SnB won't dodge my question by calling me retarded. I await his answer. | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:16 EchelonTee wrote: 1. Yes. 3. This is what I'm talking about excessive negativity. You say "you don't know wtf you're talking about, so stfu". I am not a bad player. You know this. So don't tell me to stop talking, it's completely unnecessary. If you say this to someone with a weaker backbone, they will just end up resenting you. I don't care whether or not you resent me. I presented a list of filters of every game in which I have played on TL Mafia. These filters show a number of things including that A) I am not a trolling/retarded player and B) I post a lot and have been known to triple and quadruple post a great deal. I find the fact that you find my triple posting odd to be odd. I don't think you're scum, I think for whatever reason you're just trying to pick a fight. I can't really imagine why but there you have it. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On May 27 2012 16:51 EchelonTee wrote: 1. If you're offended, you deserve to be, I agree On May 27 2012 16:36 EchelonTee wrote: Come on BH, he's a newbie. You're acting like a TLMafia brat, threatening to call in the host, which is also unproductive to the discussion. You post gifs and pix of you eating hats all the time, so his reference to your trolling isn't wholly inaccurate lol. Oh do I deserve to be offended or am I in fact a brat? please clear this up for me? Also I got a question, is you calling me a brat in fact in line with On May 27 2012 17:16 EchelonTee wrote: 3. This is what I'm talking about excessive negativity. ??? | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:24 EchelonTee wrote: 1. SnB says you post like a retard. 2. You get offended and post questioning on him in reference to earlier stuff. This is false. You're either wrong or lying. Check these timestamps: + Show Spoiler + On May 27 2012 14:55 Blazinghand wrote: Ok, so obviously, now, S&B, you're not running for vice mayor, since it's clear there's no way to run for that position. However, every one of my questions about your initial post still applies. At the time that you wrote it, your campaign for vice-mayor was based on a thought that there WAS a vice-mayoral election. So, at the time that you wrote it... why on earth were you campaigning to be vice-mayor? These questions still need to be addressed. What's your deal, S&B? Why did you take those actions? On May 27 2012 15:32 strongandbig wrote: I just said dood. I want to do something interesting and different but I'm not confident enough in my day 1 reads in general to lynch someone. herp derp -> vice leader. And the question "why are you trying to get a power that's almost useless for town but super useful for scum" has a retardedly obvious answer, doesn't it? So scum can't have that power? Finally, it's not that I don't know why I like ET more than the other three of you. It's that I didn't want to come right out and say "half of everything bh or ve post is retarded or trolling" because you're both pretty good players and have a lot more experience than me; but I honestly think it's better to have a mayor who takes all their posts seriously so we can analyze them, rather than someone who posts like a retard or trolls half the time. It's glaringly obvious that I did not react to SnB's retardation accusation with pressure, but rather, I BEGAN by pressuring him, THEN he made the retard comment, THEN I continued pressuring him. Did you read the posts or are you just fishing for reasons to attack me? On May 27 2012 17:24 EchelonTee wrote: 3. I agree with your questioning on him, but I don't like how you wanted to call in the host for a retard comment. 4. You ignore what I said about the host thing, and instead focus on the retard part. You falsely think that I consider you to be a retard. 5. I say you are getting worked up, because you focus on the part of my post that you want to focus on. You then post a list of your games to prove that you are not a retard, when I already know you are not a retard. 6. I said that you deserve to be offended by being called a retard. You don't understand my posts, or maybe I was unclear, but you seem to think that I think you're bad. 7. You should care whether or not I, and other players resent you, because the excessive negativity is a reason for TL towns losing lately. I made a post about it on the other page. See what I don't get here is how you think I'm causing people to resent me while you're calling me a "brat" | ||
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Blazinghand
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This is a good point. Can the Vice Mayor Pardon himself from the D1 lynch? | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:28 EchelonTee wrote: 8. The "brat" thing specifically refers for the tendency for players to say things like "if you keep on doing X, I'm calling the host", or "you are playing against wincon, I'm telling the host". 9. This could be construed as a negative insult towards you, but my point in that entire post was to say "make your case built on regular shit, not you being offended+a host insult". I still don't get how you got so swiftly mad at me. Playing scum is so much easier  I'm not complaining to the host. I'm just saying, if he continues to insinuate that I am retarded, I will do so. If you disagree with my position, that is completely fine. If you call me a brat and also think that my language is demeaning and I'm the one causing resentment then I disagree in the strongest possible terms. The rules on the OP clearly state that I am allowed to contact the host: If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally. However, I'd much prefer if SnB just stopped without me doing this, so I asked him to do so and notified him that I will gladly contact a host if he does not. I am done speaking with you on this issue. | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:33 Sinensis wrote: Well it sounds like you're getting emotional so I don't know if I can trust anything you've said. You'll probably be okay with this because it's how you're playing. Honestly it's probably better just to ignore ET on this issue. I don't think communicating with him about it will lead to anything and it will likely just clog up the thread, which isn't good for town. | ||
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On May 27 2012 17:44 Forumite wrote: BH, could you please chill, just a bit? Right after ET posts about creating a good town atmosphere, you start spamming. You have some good points, but you are not getting them across if you repeatedly post them in an angry manner, and another page without information will not help us get the lurkers into the game. What are your thoughts on a D1 Vice-Mayor lynch? Assuming, of course, he can't pardon himself D1. I think removing the Pardoner from the game asap would be good. | ||
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On May 10 2012 01:40 GreYMisT wrote: Elections! This game will have a day 1 election for the office of Leader (Mayor) and Vice-Leader (Pardoner) Leader: Decides the Day 1 lynch and his vote counts for 2 votes. Vice-Leader: Once per game, can nullify a day’s vote, resulting in a no-lynch. All he nullifies is a day's vote, but obviously this doesn't apply to the Day 1 votes since that vote elected him. The Mayor "decides" the Day 1 lynch, but there is no voting to cause it, so there's no way the Vice-Mayor could nullify the D1 lynch, since it's not vote-based. Therefore the Vice-Mayor can be lynched D1. That's just my reading of it though, so we'll have to wait on the host. | ||
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Blazinghand
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On May 27 2012 18:21 supersoft wrote: bh looks superbad on my paper right now. only blabla, excuses and a bad day1 plan. we wont lynch this grush guy for nothing. even worthless players can be easy to read. And thus they are worthy lol. Check his LIV filter and tell me how legible you find him. On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, it's 3 a.m. here, so I'm going to bed now. However, Blazinghand, do you actually think it's the best day 1 play to just lynch someone you think is bad rather than someone you think is scum? Maybe if you had no scum reads by the end of Day 1, but you make it sound like you'll go through with it regardless... Honestly, if I were elected right now, I'd lynch Grush57, and I'd cackle maniacally while doing so. There's always the possibility he'll do something to convince me he's town between now and election time, but he probably won't so I'll lynch him. If I get elected and I think Grush57 is town AND he won't utterly destroy all the following day's discussions with his play, I'll lynch whoever I think is scum. If he's scummy in my opinion, I'll lynch the vice-mayor (if he can't pardon himself) because the pardoner ability can't really help town. In fact, as a caveat to anyone who wants to elect me: I'll throw any campaign promise out the door the instant I think I can do something that is more helpful to town. I currently want to lynch Grush57, but if an opportunity presents itself that I think will help town more, I will take that opportunity. On May 27 2012 18:28 Zealos wrote: @Blazinghand: Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? I put some pressure on SnB, but other than that I basically let ET provoke me into taking a dump on the thread, which was a mistake. I think my discussions of possibly lynching the pardonery has been helpful. I have no doubt I will be helpful going forwards. Do you think you've been helpful so far this game? | ||
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On May 27 2012 18:11 Forumite wrote: I read "nullify a lynch, resulting in an no-lynch" as working for the D1-lynch too. That was in the day post, right? The rules post says On May 10 2012 01:40 GreYMisT wrote: Vice-Leader: Once per game, can nullify a day’s vote, resulting in a no-lynch. Which wouldn't work for the D1-lynch since it's not vote-based. | ||
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