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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 17 2012 12:54 GMT
#3081
Probulus. You outed me as blue :-(

G_G
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 12:58:50
June 17 2012 12:56 GMT
#3082
Bullshit 8(

gg and well played marv. I'm sorry I stopped playing something inbetween (like d2 or d3?) for 1.5 cycles and got incredible lazy, however with marv being mafia we really had no chance to win imo

As mentioned in the obs-QT: If I had lynched into Hyaach and figured out he is town by doing so, fine I'm wrong and I was right with the other mafias, can't be perfect.
Same about Kenpachi. But if I had lynched into marv and found out he is town I would have never forgiven myself for not lynching into Hyaach or Kenpachi and ruining this game for town competly on my own.

Some people need to play a little more and start doing something. Sad thing the vets in this game sucked so much and when it came to the non-vet mafias it came down to lynching into an unreadable entity of guys who never post. I literally had like 10 mafiareads in my sheet and we lynched down the list. Starting with the ones that ended up town because of mafiainfluence and my lazyness of actually pushing who I wanted dead the most.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 13:03:13
June 17 2012 13:02 GMT
#3083
On June 17 2012 21:46 marvellosity wrote:
ET: your play wasn't mediocre. You very successfully removed yourself from the pool of scum candidates by appearing blatantly town to everyone (along with me...). As you just posted in your newbie game write up, looking and being townie is one of townie's most important jobs.

Yeah I suppose, I've just kind of hit a roadblock in my town play where I'm not getting mislynched any time soon, but my reads need to be better. In fact, I think in every town game I've played, my initial read was always wrong, this game being SnB -.-

Yeah toad you're right. I think the impetus was on the townies to work harder at looking more townie, so we would have a chance at smoking out marv. Having to pick between between several scummy lurkers was pain staking, which is why I was continually suspicious of the vets. I kept on thinking "there is no way this giant pack of scummy lurkers are all scum, there must be manipulation somewhere". First I thought VE, then MZ, but it ended up being marv :o
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 17 2012 13:04 GMT
#3084
On June 17 2012 21:54 supersoft wrote:
Probulus. You outed me as blue :-(

G_G


i/we didn't notice, it's not why we shot you
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 17 2012 16:18 GMT
#3085
Post game coming up later today
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
June 17 2012 19:25 GMT
#3086
WP Marv
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
June 17 2012 20:51 GMT
#3087
On June 17 2012 22:04 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:54 supersoft wrote:
Probulus. You outed me as blue :-(

G_G


i/we didn't notice, it's not why we shot you

I was tempted to call for medics on Supersoft because I was almost sure that one of the six scum would have spotted that blue claim. Guess it was tough to spot in that 60 page day 2.

Any reason for roleblocking VE?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 17 2012 20:59 GMT
#3088
It's just the kinda thing I'm not that tuned to picking up yet jaj. In hindsight it's actually glaringly obvious. If I wasn't gonna notice it would have to be Wiggles, and I'm not sure he was following THAT closely either.

I had noticed supersoft went weird but didn't put 2 and 2 together myself, or when Probe pointed it out lol. Didn't work so much for him because we completely ignored that and simply considered him quite dangerous.

VE was just a hunch of mine.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
June 17 2012 21:33 GMT
#3089
yes I am not used to play blue... I am vt almost every game and I like being vt the most.
However it was really fun this game to save WBG... pretty cool to gain extra information by such things...
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
June 17 2012 22:18 GMT
#3090
I just wish VE would roll VT more

Real shame his shot didn't go through. I reckon we'd have killed Gambit or Wiggles day 2.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
June 17 2012 22:28 GMT
#3091
Well VE wanted to shoot Kita as well if I remember correclty :p
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 17 2012 22:33 GMT
#3092
Oh cool game ended. First thing I want to say is thank anyone who has helped host a game. It used to be just a formality / footnote in every OP for me, but after this experience I can really express my gratitude for the people who help run / facilitate this forum section that we can have such fun.

And I suppose I stop using blue bold text now. Sad. Maybe I'll do an analysis of ObsQT or something if I have time. Haha, good times in the ObsQT. P.s. Marv who would you have shot if town no lynched? Would you shoot austin because it would be harder to mislynch him or keep him because you were manipulating him in MasonQT?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 22:47:21
June 17 2012 22:46 GMT
#3093
OH I did not realize, no-lynching would have been really good for town.

Marv could not have shot marv for obvious reasons
Marv could not have shot into Kenpachi / Hyaach for obvious reasons.
So he really had to shoot Austin as slOsh has pointed out because if he had shot Kenpachi (for example) people would know something's wrong because no mafia would shoot him when town is thinking about "it's either Kenpachi or Hyaach".

Maybe seeing Marv survive the night would have changed things, I doubt it because even if Hyaach was mafia he would / should have shot austin for that very reason but if Marv would have screwed up and shot into Kenpachi / Hyaach while survivin THAT might have changed towns minds.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 22:58:35
June 17 2012 22:50 GMT
#3094
On June 18 2012 07:33 slOosh wrote:
Oh cool game ended. First thing I want to say is thank anyone who has helped host a game. It used to be just a formality / footnote in every OP for me, but after this experience I can really express my gratitude for the people who help run / facilitate this forum section that we can have such fun.

And I suppose I stop using blue bold text now. Sad. Maybe I'll do an analysis of ObsQT or something if I have time. Haha, good times in the ObsQT. P.s. Marv who would you have shot if town no lynched? Would you shoot austin because it would be harder to mislynch him or keep him because you were manipulating him in MasonQT?


My favourite bit about the whole obsQT was you trying to nudge people towards the right answer, unsuccessfully

no-lynch? gosh, I hadn't considered that at all. I knew I had to shoot austin after Hyaach lynched if by some horrible stroke of luck ken or austin were vet or something.

But hmmm. I may not shoot at all, or I would shoot austin. I can't shoot kenpachi, because Hyaach would never shoot kenpachi if he were the actual scum. I think I'd have to hold my shot (maybe?), but I would have had to lay the groundwork for it by seeming unsure about the lynch myself. But the possibility of a no lynch wasn't an option.

edit: toad, you know i would never have shot into hyaach/ken, lol
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
June 17 2012 23:11 GMT
#3095
Note that whoever pushed the no-lynch (apart from Hyaach) would have been effectively confirmed town, because they could have just taken the Hyaach lynch instead. So if Kenpachi pushed the no-lynch, Hyaach may at least have got to the right answer. I don't think it would have changed the result though.

Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 17 2012 23:19 GMT
#3096
On June 17 2012 21:54 supersoft wrote:
Probulus. You outed me as blue :-(

G_G


Yeah sorry about that, I really didn't realise until you pointed it out. To me it was simply a case of you knowing too much information.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
June 17 2012 23:32 GMT
#3097
On June 18 2012 06:33 supersoft wrote:
yes I am not used to play blue... I am vt almost every game and I like being vt the most.
However it was really fun this game to save WBG... pretty cool to gain extra information by such things...


that was an excellent save on your part.

It's not often I get shot n1 anyway.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 18 2012 16:09 GMT
#3098
I think this game is a testimate to getting "confirmed" as scum through sheer activity alone. Marv did an excellent job being one of the most active players in the game, and therefore few considered that he could be scum.

This game had a few inactivity problems, Hopefully I delt with those well enough so you guys didnt feel like it had too much of an impact
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 16:20:32
June 18 2012 16:19 GMT
#3099
your game was awesome and thanks for hosting (i feel i forgot to say this already!)

P.S. greymist, probably the insane amount of bussing too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Hyaach
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1737 Posts
June 18 2012 16:28 GMT
#3100
the incredible amount of spam in the first day actually caught me offguard. lol
Thailand is my new obsession
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