Just realized I can be open about who I am going to mason anyways. I guess mafia will shoot me and ET because we're both mod confirmed town, leaving us with Marv, tinfoil-hat-guy and Kenpachi vs the last mafia. I think Kenpachi and Marv are just fine with what they're doing themselves and I'll recruit the tinfoil-hat-guy to explain him what's going on together with ET to make sure he's not screwing up because he's still new.
And if Mafia shoots him instead of ET or me I'm happy as well lol.

So mason power on austinmcc. Read what was posted in the QT, especially the last couple of days. I'll leave some posts in there to instruct you on what to do :p

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 12 2012 23:11 GMT

#2963

On June 13 2012 08:09 EchelonTee wrote:
papa was ur lynch target?

In my defense, I just didn't want you to lynch me and I was worried you'd go "balls to the wall" :p

after tonight it will be 2v5. Hrmm.... I really am unsure about things. I think a re-read into Hyaach would be fruitful.

I honestly am not sure which of Wiggles/Kenpachi is scum. Is it really impossible that both are scum?

Nah I would have lynched either Kita or VE honestly. Would have nether lynched you :p
But still, I was the guy who said it's maju + papapanda and not manason

EchelonTee

United States5250 Posts

June 12 2012 23:12 GMT

#2964

I'm also down to switch to 24 hour days after this.

EchelonTee

United States5250 Posts

June 12 2012 23:14 GMT

#2965

I guess that with the way things were going, even if we had lynched maju/papa first, we probably would've mislynched Manason at some point. I'm not too unhappy with how the game has gone, except maybe the D1 lynch.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 12 2012 23:15 GMT

#2966

Nah, if Maju would have been lynched first manason would have been confirmed town

slOosh

3291 Posts

June 12 2012 23:15 GMT

#2967

If you guys want to switch to 24 hours PM me and GreYMisT. Yea that sounds good.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

June 12 2012 23:16 GMT

#2968

Ugh, not like I don't deserve it, but what a lovely reputation to build.

There IS a chance that both kenpachi and wiggles are scum. Everyone else would have to be town, Hyaach + the rest of us. Consider it if you'd like.

EchelonTee

United States5250 Posts

June 12 2012 23:18 GMT

#2969

If we think Hyaach is scum though, I'd lean Wiggles being the other scum.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 12 2012 23:19 GMT

#2970

ET thinks hyaach is confirmed mafia and I think Wiggles is confirmed mafia. So I really those odds but yeah we're considering things.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 12 2012 23:20 GMT

#2971

what is it with me missing words in phrases....
EBWOP: "So I really LIKE thoses odds..."

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

June 12 2012 23:20 GMT

#2972

Oh, I don't think we've got a kenpachi/wiggles team. But you asked, and that's the only scenario in which they could be scum together.

Happy to hear things are being considered, I've got some thoughts to share once we hit day again or once masoned, but for now I guess it's back to inactivity and re-reading for this cycle.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 12 2012 23:26 GMT

#2973

With all honesty I don't think Wiggles is confirmed mafia but it really looks like he is and Kenpachi is not. I already said I feel something like 70/30.

On top of that we have a hand full of weak "situations" that approve that theory kind of.

Remember I'm being confirmed mafia? Yeah they had to shoot the DT last night, but why didn't they shoot me with the 2nd shot instead of MZ? Yeah MZ was looking good as well but I'm the fucking mason who keeps on recruiting people every single cycle and so far everyone recruited was a townie. It's like the best mason circle EVER. And I'm not dead?
I think that has something to do with the fact that I kept fake-pushing Kenpachi last night cycle. I think they wanted to keep me alive to keep pushing Kenpachi so that mafia wins.

Stuff like that makes me think we're really good with Wiggles / Hyaach and there's more stuff like that.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 12 2012 23:27 GMT

#2974

EBWOP Town , I am confirmed town. Don't even try to get your tinfoil-hat out because I said I'm confirmed mafia.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 12 2012 23:36 GMT

#2975

Also Papapandas flip confirms that we only have one vet being mafia. So it's really Wiggles or Kenpachi but not both. That means Hyaach is mafia.

austinmcc

United States6737 Posts

June 12 2012 23:38 GMT

#2976

Bah, it's not you this time. I don't even care if you say you're mafia. Just got some thoughts that can wait until after the NK, didn't need to share the last couple days as we lynched down the list.

I only mentioned Wiggles/Kenpachi because ET asked

On June 13 2012 08:09 EchelonTee wrote:
I honestly am not sure which of Wiggles/Kenpachi is scum. Is it really impossible that both are scum?

That's all.

EchelonTee

United States5250 Posts

June 13 2012 02:04 GMT

#2977

Those are some pretty good points toad. Why haven't you died for so long? Kenpachi or Wiggles both know you're a solid player, and ur a confirmed Mason; your conclusion makes sense on the Kenpachi thing.

I'm going to re-read somethings before the night... I'd like some focus on Hyaach. The only thing that gives me pause is papapanda's early pressure onto Hyaach, and papa doesn't seem like the bussing type to me. Who knows, though.

I think I'm convinced that Wiggles is Mafia. I just feel so queasy though because I've mislynched Wiggles (as scum) in two of my previous games; Wiggles is often a lategame mislynch -.-

papapanda

Taiwan326 Posts

June 13 2012 07:20 GMT

#2978

gg and gl!

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

June 13 2012 13:09 GMT

#2979

On June 09 2012 03:01 papapanda wrote:
When is it a good idea to lynch Kenpachi?
I think we can find our mafia in Kenpachi, ET, MrWiggle, and Maju
Needless to say, he is the person I want to lynch the most.
From the vote results however, I have decided to put my vote on maju to secure the lynch today.

On June 11 2012 00:40 papapanda wrote:
The scums(zealos, gambit, maju) have all been players who were not veterans of tlmafia. Instead of hyaach, I think lynching kenpachi or wiggle is the better option:
I consider wiggle to be suspicious mainly because of his change in play style from day1 to the rest of the game. In the election phase, he wanted to run specifically for vp. This change in behavior seem to be to avoid attention. Prob checked him, but if he is mafia, it is likely that he is framed by maju there for appearing town to the check.
Kenpachi is an option because he is not playing this game for town.

That's just plain mafia agenda. He knew I was pushing for Kenpachi and tells us we should lynch into either Wiggles or Kenpachi. He doesn't say which of the two should be lynched but surely he knows that that night cycle everyone and their mom was pushing Kenpachi hardcore, so that is proooobably a confirmed mafia (by now) trying to get a final mislynch to win the game.
Again, makes Kenpachi quite good while it makes Wiggles look really bad because although he never really mentioned lynching into Kenpachi he was well aware of the fact that Kenpachi was being pushed and he tried to seize the moment.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

June 13 2012 13:10 GMT

#2980

On June 13 2012 11:04 EchelonTee wrote:
Those are some pretty good points toad. Why haven't you died for so long? Kenpachi or Wiggles both know you're a solid player, and ur a confirmed Mason; your conclusion makes sense on the Kenpachi thing.

I'm going to re-read somethings before the night... I'd like some focus on Hyaach. The only thing that gives me pause is papapanda's early pressure onto Hyaach, and papa doesn't seem like the bussing type to me. Who knows, though.

I think I'm convinced that Wiggles is Mafia. I just feel so queasy though because I've mislynched Wiggles (as scum) in two of my previous games; Wiggles is often a lategame mislynch -.-

I had a look over Hyach and there was not that much there to make me change my read... he's flailing.

We already know about the kita/MZ stuff. The fact he didn't read the thread is horrible. Hassybaby dies and he FoS Hassy. How can you not read day/night posts? Toad calls for all townies to vote papapanda and Hyaach votes Wiggles.

Hyaach gets an (odd) townread on Wiggles because of the Maju/Manason votes. But now he's asking us to lynch Wiggles ahead of him? Because town decided it's him and Wiggles, so Wiggles should go first?

Still, I can't somehow bring myself to be as decisive on Hyaach as I felt on papa/maju. He's either lost town or he's scum who's been hung out to dry. At this stage it has to be him or ken though, and I'm a lot more confident on Hyaach than I am on Ken.

Hyaach - who are the two remaining scum?