EPTPretty much the same as Qatol. Always wanted to play that.
Edit: It's still pregame so editing is allowed? Kinda hard to tell because it's a vote... I only edited [b] tags in though to make it a little bit nicer to read for you.
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Pretty much the same as Qatol. Always wanted to play that. Edit: It's still pregame so editing is allowed? Kinda hard to tell because it's a vote... I only edited [b] tags in though to make it a little bit nicer to read for you. | ||
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I totally would chose that for someone else else if it would be PTP instead of PYP. | ||
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On May 06 2012 08:45 Barundar wrote: Voted pyp redux, other setup looks very fun but pyp is my favorite you need to vote in this thread like everyone else does. The poll is just a mere quick estimation for GM | ||
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On May 07 2012 07:31 Mattchew wrote: When does voting close Voting for which setup will remain open for about 48 hours. Post in this thread with a ##Vote: Setup #. The deadline for votes is Monday night at 03:00 CEST (+02:00). Only vote if you think you would play (even if you'll only play if a specific setup wins). If you'd rather not vote in the thread, I will accept PMed votes and consider them anonymous. Don't vote with smurfs. | ||
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Edit: Ok figured it out myself by now. | ||
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On May 08 2012 19:56 Hassybaby wrote: Palmar, use Dickensian flaming. Then you can still call someone dumb, but everyone thinks you're a perfect gentleman when doing it and wbg will want to lynch you for that. So before doing that you have to check wether or not wbg is in the game as well. Edit: Oh crap those roles are so awesome. There's at least 2 roles I always dreamt of playing and 2 more roles that look REALLY sexy to me :3 Screw you GM for making me dissapointed either way: "ooooh, I've got A and I always wanted to play A, but that means I won't get to play X,Y and Z this time  "This game is going to be so awesome :p | ||
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On May 08 2012 20:15 Adam4167 wrote: You should pick the compulsive vig, I hear that ends well. I have no idea what role I want to play, maybe ill just shut my eyes and randomly point at the screen when its my turn. actually that's what I thought about, together with Dayvig. I want to be Palmar "post your spreadsheet or I'll blast you away" just if I realy end up being a dayvig I know there's noone else being a day-vig so obviouly I won't have the usual palmerish problems. I could bring his strategy to perfection! Edit: LOL screw that. I'm picking town godfather | ||
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On May 08 2012 20:30 Zephirdd wrote: seems like there is no compulsive vig tho  what hapens with town GFs and scum Traitors? a scum Traitor would be pretty fucking awesome IMO. When targeted by night actions, becomes town. Except he can communicate with scum! Maybe it should have a limitation tho, which is "cannot claim their teammates without a real case, otherwise town loses" :D Or just disallow scum traitors. Traitor - You hold no allegiance to the town. If you are targeted by Scum at night with any action, instead of that action happening you'll be recruited by them instead. You lose if the Mafia lose. However you are part of the town count before recruitment. seems like he isn't changing alignments, he gets to be mafia. So a town traitor who gets shot or whatever else gets to be mafia and a mafia traitor who gets shot or whatever else gets to be mafia as well (read: nothing changes). However I don't really like the traitor role at all. Sounds a little imba to me. Instant -1town and +1mafia and you know you'll end up being in the mafia team? I don't see a reason why a townie should not want that given the assumption that it's balanced before roles are picked is true. | ||
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On May 08 2012 20:41 Adam4167 wrote: I was taking a cheap shot at Toads play in Arkham. I could have totally got behind your coin-flipping shenanigans if you were Two-Face, in fact I would have praised you for getting into the role. Take Town Janitor and then never use it, Toad. I loathe no flips. I got that :p And no lol, I'm not going to pick town janitor, but picking mafia roles as town sounds interesting for most mafia roles. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Explanation: I was Town-Godfather who was allowed to change appearence every single night and Ceph was a rolecop: 01[00:05] <+Toad|> what role am I [00:05] <+Cephiro^^> THE 04[00:05] <+Cephiro^^> TOAD IS THE [00:05] <Zephirdd> risk only went to ceph's home [00:05] <+risk7nuke> WAIT [00:05] <+Cephiro^^> TIME SHIFTING DRAGON [00:05] <+Cephiro^^> I GOT A SHIELD [00:05] <+Cephiro^^> FROM RISK [00:05] <Zephirdd> WTF IS THAT SHIT? [00:13] <+Cephiro^^> WHAT THE FUCK [00:13] <+Cephiro^^> LOL 04[00:13] <+Cephiro^^> Toad is my dad [00:13] <Zephirdd> wat 04[00:13] <+risk7nuke> ##vote toad [00:24] <+Cephiro^^> today he returned to me: 04[00:24] <+risk7nuke> kill toad [00:24] <+Cephiro^^> VOTE FOR FUCKIGN RISK That sounds so hilarious but it probably would be considered anti-town in a real game :p The thing I don't like about the traitor is that if a townie chooses to be a traitor that obviously buffs mafia because it's -1 town and +1 mafia (unless GM evens the game out somehow different in case of people choosing a traitor) and on top of that it weakens town a bit because the traitor is gone and everyone choosing traitor after the first one will be a VT instead of a blue. | ||
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Toads little guide for choosing your role as #1 draft I'm going to make it a 3-way guide. a) What to pick as mafia b) What to pick as a vet town c) What to pick as a newbie-town who isn't sure if he really should play the strongest role in the game: a) You are mafia? Awesome, pick CPR. Free 1 KP per night, that's right, you just doubled your entire teams KP! Also you're not someone who's carrying a gun making you immune vs that gun-bob. b) You are a vet-town? Awesome, pick CPR. Multishot-vig with infinite bullets and it isn't even compulsive! Isn't that great? Oh did I already mention that it has an build in idiot-safety as well? You either are a vig with infinite bullets or you are a medic if you end up targeting the same guy mafia was hitting making him confirmed town. Someone like Sandro / Qatol / foolish (you get the idea, right?) would destroy mafia as CPR. Also Mafia can't possibly have that role. c) You are a noob-town? Awesome, pick CPR. Multishot-vig with infinite bullets and it isn't even compulsive! Isn't that great? Oh did I already mention that it has an build in idiot-safety as well? You either are a vig with infinite bullets or you are a medic if you end up targeting the same guy mafia was hitting making him confirmed town. You probably should never use your role though, you're a noob but mafia not having it is better than any other role in the game. Edit: I edited this post at least 10 times. | ||
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On May 09 2012 02:28 prplhz wrote: inb4 everybody picks CPR and all but first pick ends up vanilla Do all scum have a gun, showing up to bullet bill? I am not allowed to make a plan pregame and tell people what to do pregame, but I'm sure people can figure out how to avoid that problem themselves. | ||
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On May 09 2012 02:31 syllogism wrote: Hider is actually the best role for a "vet" e: oh wait it's not the kind that doubles as a DT, well it's still pretty nice yeah your edit is the reason I think cpr as town vet is still #1^^ | ||
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On May 09 2012 04:44 talismania wrote: If you're mafia and pick CPR as pick 1, then you will draw a lot of fire if you're still alive and the kp has been 2+ for three nights in a row or something like that. Also dangerous because #1 pick is likely to be checked by some role or the other. Probably still worth it, but not without its drawbacks. Just a little example for your: Mafia team: 3 (CPR + vig + RB/framer/GF/janitor) + 1 traitor = 4 => Town team = 11 people. So it's 11 vs 4 let's say town mislynches d1, which is not unlikely at all => 10vs 4 => nightphase with 3 KP => 7vs 4 and it's lylo after a single cycle. Who cares about what happens 3 cycles after the game started when you win in 2 cycles if you manage to not shoot into protection / vets / hider. Edit: And I'm not saying that because I think it's imba, it's more about that people should think about the set-up because mafia will most likely have an awesome plan if they're in irc or in a Mafia QT argueing about what's the best thing to do given the drafts. Mafia is probably not going to srew up the picks imo, but I could see townies screwing up the picks. That's why I am talking about those things because I think we need to be on an equal stage to start the game or it's instant gg :p There's some roles that are really nasty for both town and mafia and I think CPR is something mafia should never lay there hands on if town wants a chance. GF is pretty awesome as well given the changes and so is a pardoner if you use it the right way. Edit2: Oh and that's talking about a 3 vs 12 set-up. I don't actually know if it's going to be something like that. Usually a mini is 12 players and 3v9 or something like that, so maybe it's even a 4v11 setup, who knows :p | ||
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There's going to be an anouncement "ok game starts, you've got 24 hours to send in your numbers" or something like that because we don't know if it's going to be a 15 player or a 20 player game, right? :p | ||
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and yeah I know Qatol, I'll stop talking about that stuff. I just felt it might be something that could possibly end up breaking the game if people don't think about it. So I wanted to get people thinking about the roles before the game started and what could end up being really nasty because if I end with a mafia team like I mentioned above I'm going to be either really happy or really mad. | ||
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On May 09 2012 14:20 Foolishness wrote: I already gave him approval like a week ago! I told him he could go up to 20! And now he's bothering me again about it! More clutter in my inbox! And I have to repeat myself! Gosh! =P awesome, now make GM add those 5 pointed out earlier and I won't be shot n1 this time :3 | ||
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"YO DUDE, POST YOUR SPREADSHEET. YOU'VE GOT 5 MINUTES TO DO THAT OR I BLOW YOU UP" And you know what the best part about it would be? If you really are a dayvig you know noone else is a dayvig and you can't run into the usual palmerish problems that come with that strategy. That's why I'm going to bring it to perfection. In this game that kind of thing can't happen because there's 1 dayvig tops (which is also the reason VE did not sign up) :p | ||
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On May 10 2012 07:29 GMarshal wrote: Bleh, looking at it, I disagree with the logic used in PYP:I, I'd place the numbers as so [19,19] [1,1] [1,1] [6,9] [6,20] [7,1] [7,4] [7,2] [7,2] Basically, the uniqueness of the leading number trumps ties in the second number. I think this is a more logical way to handle it, that doesn't require complex rulings. exactly what I thought as well. I like that way more than the other one :p | ||
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