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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 12:42 GMT
#1241
Because we are working under the assumption that the SK went with a politician pick (and got it) because any townie in his right mind that got it would claim.

Everyone else in the upper portion of the draft (except myself I guess, if you feel im a possible SK) has either proven their role (risk, matt, marv once he claims his townie) or has flipped. Since it makes no sense for a townie who went with a politician pick and got it to not claim about it at this stage after marv informed us that a SK poltician is very likely to be in the game, I am relatively certain we can rule out anyone with any other role out for now.

I highly doubt that toad is SK though - the timing of his claim of VT makes little sense for a SK politician.

Of course, zeph could be the SK and is taking a gambit. Thats a possibility, though I kinda doubt it.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 22 2012 12:44 GMT
#1242
I did not get shot and suggesting I did is quite frankly stupid . Bluelightz dieing I can only assume is either a blue snipe or an attempt to frame me. Zephirdd, I skimmed his case and couldn't find anything worth responding to yesterday, would you mind pointing it out?

If people want to hunt for SK today between those unclaimed names I'll be roleclaiming, otherwise I won't. I assume zepph is marv's mason buddy?

I discarded zelblade due to his vanilla claim, but I guess Hiro's scenario is possible. Will have to re-read before deciding between the 2 + sand.
Bartundar
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 22 2012 12:46 GMT
#1243
Barundar, if you refuse to roleclaim today I shoot you tonight. Start with claiming if you are vanilla or not.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
May 22 2012 12:46 GMT
#1244
Zeph isnt marv's mason buddy. Apparently 2 townies decided to take politician for a reason I cannot comprehend.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 22 2012 12:47 GMT
#1245
On May 22 2012 21:46 risk.nuke wrote:
Barundar, if you refuse to roleclaim today I shoot you tonight. Start with claiming if you are vanilla or not.

Not vanilla.
Bartundar
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 22 2012 12:47 GMT
#1246
I think barundar is the sk (he sugested the cpr mass murder thing, which seemed weird at the time, but I guess it makes sense as sk) and hiro is the mafia.

@Palmar How come you are pushing me for not devoting much time to this game while you are yourself doing the same? Let me play diablo in peace.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 22 2012 12:49 GMT
#1247
he sugested the cpr mass murder thing

What?
Bartundar
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
May 22 2012 12:53 GMT
#1248
I'm pretty sure I know what Barundar is going to claim :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 22 2012 12:58 GMT
#1249
@barundar your first post saying that I was likely town and i should pick cpr.
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 22 2012 13:02 GMT
#1250
On May 22 2012 21:58 sandroba wrote:
@barundar your first post saying that I was likely town and i should pick cpr.

Fair enough, knew that was a... not sure of the english word, statement which people would get offended by that early in the game. Because I called you town, not because of the use.
Bartundar
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2012 13:37 GMT
#1251
On May 22 2012 21:47 sandroba wrote:
I think barundar is the sk (he sugested the cpr mass murder thing, which seemed weird at the time, but I guess it makes sense as sk) and hiro is the mafia.

@Palmar How come you are pushing me for not devoting much time to this game while you are yourself doing the same? Let me play diablo in peace.


I'm devoting tons of time to this game, I'm just being wrong a lot.

But killing you seems like a good way forward.
Computer says mafia
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 22 2012 13:42 GMT
#1252
On May 22 2012 22:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 21:47 sandroba wrote:
I think barundar is the sk (he sugested the cpr mass murder thing, which seemed weird at the time, but I guess it makes sense as sk) and hiro is the mafia.

@Palmar How come you are pushing me for not devoting much time to this game while you are yourself doing the same? Let me play diablo in peace.


I'm devoting tons of time to this game, I'm just being wrong a lot.

But killing you seems like a good way forward.

what do you think about barundar

and I think that snarfs/sandroba is the last scum
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 22 2012 13:45 GMT
#1253
On May 22 2012 22:42 Mattchew wrote:

and I think that snarfs/sandroba is the last scum


Based on?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
May 22 2012 13:49 GMT
#1254
Mattchew do you think snarf is scum despite posts such as these which was crucial to condemn Sentinel.
+ Show Spoiler [Mainpost] +
On May 18 2012 03:36 Snarfs wrote:
Sentinel said he would take Janitor if he had to:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 05:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'll be cool with it, but I'd rather have risk cooperate lol.

Risk please cooperate?


risk made it quite clear he was not going to cooperate.

Then Sentinel tries to make it sound like he attempted to pick the janitor role by adding a frowny face:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 23:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I did not get janitor

When in fact we now know that the Janitor was not picked by anyone in the top 4.

Sentinel lied then tried to make it seem like he didn't lie without actually lying anymore. That's good enough for a day 1 lynch to me.

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel

+ Show Spoiler [Example backup post] +
On May 18 2012 04:47 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 04:45 Qatol wrote:
On May 18 2012 03:59 Snarfs wrote:
On May 18 2012 03:54 Qatol wrote:
You guys, unless you're going to commit to making a long analysis, don't bring up a new target for lynch. This kind of lazy/impulsive lynching is a way to get us in trouble. We're just going to divide the town and wind up letting the mafia control the lynch or destroy the productive atmosphere we had earlier.

Also, because I don't think lynching Mattchew is a good idea right now, I'm going to stop taking about him and focus on PaqMan.

Not much to analyze in my vote.

Sentinel said he would do one thing (which would benefit town), then did another (thus, benefiting mafia) while not making it clear that he didn't do the thing he intended to do (making it seem like he tried to benefit town, when in fact benefitting mafia).

Why would town do this?

What exactly did he say he would do which he didn't do? He said he would take Janitor. He tried to take Janitor. He claims he got vanilla instead. What about that is anti-town? Calm down a little and think this through, please. I'm not necessarily saying he isn't the best lynch target of the 3 (him, risk.nuke, and marvellosity), but I am saying that your logic for voting him isn't sound. This is why you need to do an analysis. And I still think PaqMan is a stronger target (sorry my post is taking so long - I'm at 6 pages in word and counting). All I'm doing is trying to get everyone to calm down and have an open mind about lynch targets.

I clearly posted that with the assumption that risk.nuke was telling the truth. Now that there is new information, I am open to either a risk.nuke lynch or a Sentinel lynch.

However, I still believe that the wording in Sentinel's posts seemed deceptive; whereas, risk.nuke has been completely clear and straightforward in his decision making.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 22 2012 13:54 GMT
#1255
On May 22 2012 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 22:42 Mattchew wrote:

and I think that snarfs/sandroba is the last scum


Based on?

sandroba not really caring about the game or aggressively asserting himself as town leader

snarfs cause his posts against sent feel like bus (which if you look at the situation retrospectively would be the right play as scum) and cause I believe that there is scum within all the [5,1] picks, and I don't think its palmar or qatol
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
May 22 2012 13:58 GMT
#1256
On May 22 2012 22:49 risk.nuke wrote:
Mattchew do you think snarf is scum despite posts such as these which was crucial to condemn Sentinel.
+ Show Spoiler [Mainpost] +
On May 18 2012 03:36 Snarfs wrote:
Sentinel said he would take Janitor if he had to:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 05:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'll be cool with it, but I'd rather have risk cooperate lol.

Risk please cooperate?


risk made it quite clear he was not going to cooperate.

Then Sentinel tries to make it sound like he attempted to pick the janitor role by adding a frowny face:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 23:26 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I did not get janitor

When in fact we now know that the Janitor was not picked by anyone in the top 4.

Sentinel lied then tried to make it seem like he didn't lie without actually lying anymore. That's good enough for a day 1 lynch to me.

##Vote [UoN]Sentinel

+ Show Spoiler [Example backup post] +
On May 18 2012 04:47 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2012 04:45 Qatol wrote:
On May 18 2012 03:59 Snarfs wrote:
On May 18 2012 03:54 Qatol wrote:
You guys, unless you're going to commit to making a long analysis, don't bring up a new target for lynch. This kind of lazy/impulsive lynching is a way to get us in trouble. We're just going to divide the town and wind up letting the mafia control the lynch or destroy the productive atmosphere we had earlier.

Also, because I don't think lynching Mattchew is a good idea right now, I'm going to stop taking about him and focus on PaqMan.

Not much to analyze in my vote.

Sentinel said he would do one thing (which would benefit town), then did another (thus, benefiting mafia) while not making it clear that he didn't do the thing he intended to do (making it seem like he tried to benefit town, when in fact benefitting mafia).

Why would town do this?

What exactly did he say he would do which he didn't do? He said he would take Janitor. He tried to take Janitor. He claims he got vanilla instead. What about that is anti-town? Calm down a little and think this through, please. I'm not necessarily saying he isn't the best lynch target of the 3 (him, risk.nuke, and marvellosity), but I am saying that your logic for voting him isn't sound. This is why you need to do an analysis. And I still think PaqMan is a stronger target (sorry my post is taking so long - I'm at 6 pages in word and counting). All I'm doing is trying to get everyone to calm down and have an open mind about lynch targets.

I clearly posted that with the assumption that risk.nuke was telling the truth. Now that there is new information, I am open to either a risk.nuke lynch or a Sentinel lynch.

However, I still believe that the wording in Sentinel's posts seemed deceptive; whereas, risk.nuke has been completely clear and straightforward in his decision making.

Is 1 mislynch on you worth looking bad to the rest of town? Sent took a risk (no pun intended) and he was going to hang for it day 2 if not day 1. Scum lost 1 kill and 0 overall kp from him dying and at the time, I think there was a strong voting force against you if I recall correctly.

He speaks with a lot of certainty especially in a time where there should not have been much (IMO) from outsiders perspectives.
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 22 2012 14:10 GMT
#1257
On May 22 2012 22:42 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2012 22:37 Palmar wrote:
On May 22 2012 21:47 sandroba wrote:
I think barundar is the sk (he sugested the cpr mass murder thing, which seemed weird at the time, but I guess it makes sense as sk) and hiro is the mafia.

@Palmar How come you are pushing me for not devoting much time to this game while you are yourself doing the same? Let me play diablo in peace.


I'm devoting tons of time to this game, I'm just being wrong a lot.

But killing you seems like a good way forward.

what do you think about barundar

and I think that snarfs/sandroba is the last scum


I had initial reservations about him, but mostly just the "not-sure-if-town" type of thing. Like I would rather kill a few other people.

I still think Toad might be possible scum or something in that lieu.
Computer says mafia
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
May 22 2012 14:19 GMT
#1258
On May 22 2012 21:42 zelblade wrote:
Because we are working under the assumption that the SK went with a politician pick (and got it) because any townie in his right mind that got it would claim.

Everyone else in the upper portion of the draft (except myself I guess, if you feel im a possible SK) has either proven their role (risk, matt, marv once he claims his townie) or has flipped. Since it makes no sense for a townie who went with a politician pick and got it to not claim about it at this stage after marv informed us that a SK poltician is very likely to be in the game, I am relatively certain we can rule out anyone with any other role out for now.

I highly doubt that toad is SK though - the timing of his claim of VT makes little sense for a SK politician.

Of course, zeph could be the SK and is taking a gambit. Thats a possibility, though I kinda doubt it.

Lool! Yeah right. I'm a SK that just claimed vt-politician and is pushing the ass of someone just to be seen as a liar after his flip, RIGHT?

Even if I was SK, I'd be dead as soon as you, sloosh and misder died. And this could be achieved as soon as the next night, if you consider lynch+vigi+mafia shot.

Don't be silly mr SK.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 22 2012 14:29 GMT
#1259
I'm back! Sort of. Lots of catching up to do, and I'm technically supposed to avoid computer use as much as possible, so I'll probably be delegating most of this to chaoser
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
May 22 2012 14:43 GMT
#1260
marvellosity, is your townie above or below zephirdd in draft?

We are going to follow Qatol's roleclaiming plan- anyone that is vanilla should say so. (slOosh, hiro, Snarfs)
Whaaaa?
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