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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 18 2012 22:14 GMT
#940
No point leaving my vote on Marv switching to sentinel with the assumption that zelblade didn't pick janitor.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 00:16 GMT
#956
Why would he take pardoner as sk and not politician? And why does an sk want to stop any lynches? Particularly early-game, when there's a chance the lynch might hit scum.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 00:40 GMT
#961
So your plan all along was to lynch sentinel and if he flipped as telling the truth, shoot marv?

(assuming you're town)
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 01:55 GMT
#970
Risk is either the most counterintuitive scum ever or is telling the truth. Dunno why he would lie about joat if he knew zelblade was going to be able to counter. Regardless I think seeing sentinels flip will be helpful in disentangling this.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 04:58 GMT
#1002
Zelblade should be a lower priority than marv for them - if sentinel flips mafia JOAT then that means zelblade is just a VT as he claims. Scum will then try to disrupt the mason pair, as that's actually a role. In both cases they would be risking shooting into potential protection of course.

As an aside, this game is really fun right now :-)
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 04:59 GMT
#1004
I believe we get his role too chaoser

:-)
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 05:03 GMT
#1006
lol at chaoser "mafia host" :-)

cheers!
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 05:06 GMT
#1009
oh my apologies - his iphone must have autocorrected joat to host.

Great well that clears that up and very parsimoniously too.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 05:51 GMT
#1012
Here's my list of public information, assuming no one else is lying:

deconduo [1,1] - Mafia CPR doc (DayVigged by Mattchew)
risk.nuke [4,2] - Vigilante
marvellosity [7,2] - Mason
[UoN]Sentinel [9,1] - Mafia Jack of All Trades (Lynched Day One)
Mattchew [11,x] - Day Vigilante
zelblade [12,x] - Vanilla Townie (Picked JoAT)
Bluelightz [13,x]
talismania [15,1]
Misder [2,2]
PaqMan [2,2]
slOosh [10,x]
Toadesstern [10,10] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Barundar [3,1]
Zephirdd [3,2]
hiro protagonist [3,x]
Palmar [5,1] - Pardoner
Snarfs [5,1]
Qatol [5,1]
sandroba [5,1] - Vanilla Townie (Picked Mason)
Probulous - Vanilla Townie (Modkilled)

Bolded players voted for Risk.nuke, the italicized players voted for Sentinel.

From looking at the numbers I'm starting to think that the scum team wasn't smart enough to deliberately clash with each other.

It's also telling that the fate of sentinel wasn't sealed until way late in the day, so scum probably wasn't bussing him early. Or maybe they were? I don't want to assume that they're acting logically any more after what sentinel did haha.

But looking at the list of italicized players, I think we can move Mattchew to the end of the possible scum list because he shot deconduo. For zelblade to be scum, he would have to making a "cut your losses" move which would actually be pretty brilliant of him in that position - but rather farfetched seeing as to how he would have had to set it up way far in advance... yeah he's at the end of the list of scum possibilities too.

Toad I think got his mind tangled in knots yesterday and I don't really think he's scum. Maybe.

Hiro Protagonist has been posting exactly like a young townie. His posts are notably unfiltered. Behaviorally then I think townie.

Zephirdd, if scum, deserves an oscar for his on the spot reaction to mattchew's dayvig post. I don't really see a scum pulling that off, but maybe. (Would scum be rushing to make a post seeing matt's dayvig thing? Or sitting back going "oh shit"?)

that leaves

Paqman and Palmar

Both deserve extreme consideration tomorrow.

Paqman because he got himself kind of entangled in the sentinel mess trying to explain himself and his vote reasoning, and for just being generally scummy as qatol has shown.

Palmar because he played yesterday like he flew too close to the sun with "I'm so ballsy I'm out in the open as scum" tactics. Also the guy took a role that's really only ever going to be useful to scum. And then he tried to say he would definitely use it on sentinel. Then he said he was actually going to use it on sentinel. Then he changed his mind. The only problem with him being scum is that ironically his best move in that case probably would have been to leave his pardon on sentinel (zelblade had not claimed yet when he announced he wasn't going to go through with it).

Of course, there could be a scum (but I doubt two) in the bolded players. Probably someone who voted earlier rather than later for sentinel when it wasn't even clear there would be a lynch. But for now I think focusing on the italicized player is more productive.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 05:54 GMT
#1013
ebwop: last paragraph should say "...in the italicized players"
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 05:56 GMT
#1014
double ebwop: and of course then last sentence should be "focusing on the bolded players is more productive" sorry I flipped the formatting at the last second and didn't reread before posting.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 14:06 GMT
#1032
Not sure if mass claiming would make it easier for the sk or not. I can see it either way.

Risk if you're going to shoot anyone, it should be palmar or paqman. I would not be opposed to seeing either of them flip as soon as possible.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 15:52 GMT
#1041
Well like I said earlier palmar the fact that you didn't pardon him doesn't fit the model for you being scum. But at this point I'm a little leery of assuming scum is acting logically. Sentinel certainly didn't.

Sandroba was vote 8 or so on sentinel which doesnt really make sense to me if he's scum. He could just as easily gone for risk at that point rather than put his teammate who gets to use a kp if he survives the day so close to being lynched.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 17:15 GMT
#1043
I agree that there might be one scum voting for sentinel, but both?

Sentinel was joat and had a kp. Surely they would want to preserve that and waste the day two lynch as well.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 19 2012 23:49 GMT
#1061
On May 20 2012 07:13 hiro protagonist wrote:
One small corection to that vote list:

talismania switched from marvellosity to sent. In fact, he was the hammer, as without him, there would not have been a majority.

Im gonna have to reiterate what palmar said; I did not think scum do something like what sent did. He shot himself in the foot for no reason... well, whatever.

I think we should lynch PacMan next, or if any vig prefers, shoot him tonight. nvm, we still dont know if there is a janitor around, we should hold shots for now...




I'm not sure if I was the actual hammer - I think I was 9 and marv was 10. Regardless the vote list is also reflected in my earlier post, where the italicized players voted sentinel and the bolded ones voted risk.nuke.

On the idea that a smart player on the scum team wouldn't let sentinel do what he did yadda yadda that's floating around - does anyone really think sentinel consulted the team before doing it? I'm almost positive he just got flustered about saying he might pick janitor and then ended up tripping over his own shoelaces before the scumteam could tell him that it was o.k. to just wear sandals. Sorry for that analogy >_>
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 20 2012 00:23 GMT
#1063
yeah I just filled that in before snarfs said anything. Also I think Blueligthz said he picked 3 as his second number but that doesn't really matter. First number is most informative here anyway.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
May 20 2012 13:59 GMT
#1080
Good luck everyone :-)
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
June 07 2012 04:42 GMT
#1636
On June 07 2012 13:10 zelblade wrote:
Happy birthday qatol!

The original plan was to surrender once sk died but after zeph rb'd risk and palmar looked like he was getting modkilled decided to just give it a go.

Outing sentinel wasn't intentional I didn't think that he was going to claim he took janitor. And if you look closely snarfs was the one who instigated and pushed the who is janitor thing, and I felt that it was somewhat likely that claims would have gone out either way and wasting a day to get some attention off paqman wasn't a bad idea =/

The mass claim wasnt a good plan for town, but It was difficult to know at that time considering that no one thought I was scum yet. I needed to find bullet bill and cop ASAP because the number of confIrmed innocents was getting way too high and I couldn't afford any more. Guess it did catch sk and zeph though.



Yeah no one realized that you didn't intend to out sentinel. You didn't even comment on the situation until I forced you to, after I caught you out for your "there has been some shenanigans in the top three" statement. And then you didn't claim your pick until after the lynch was settled. People just forgot this later in the game :-(

Zephirdd I can't believe I saved you! I thought there was no way that two scum would be dying N1. Bah.

Also chaoser didn't tell me I was dying, hence the fact that I didn't reveal I was the witch and all that.

Anyway, it was a fun D0 - D1 at least!
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